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Wynd Mulysa
Posts: 8,597
Berkeley, California, US


i'm starting to understand why some models lie about their age.

i don't fully understand having rigid age requirements in castings, because everyone ages differently.  i seriously just responded to a casting for which i am too old, and said "since everyone thinks i'm 17 i thought i'd go ahead and write..."
but that person probably thinks i'm full of shit or something.

do you lie about your age?

do you respond to castings that are for models that are not in your age range, but in an age range you appear to be?

if so, how do you handle it?  [i sometimes just don't mention it and hope they don't look at my age listing.]

and, since photographers are gonna be all up in here anyway: photographers: why do you post an age range requirement on your castings?  or why not?
Jul 02 12 12:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 4,164
Vineland, New Jersey, US


I don't post castings for ages because age is irrelevant outside of legalities.  I don't do nudity, anyway, so the only thing left is can this person legally sign the release without a parent signing for them.  After that, it's all about how well we get along personally and professionally.

  When I say personally, I don't mean "let's go out for dinner".  I mean ... can/will they carry a conversation?  Are they reasonable?  Are they comfortable?  Age is irrelevant to these things as I've shot some models as young as 19 that I got along great with and some that were as old as 26 or so (I'm still relatively new to this) who I couldn't wait to get away from. 

  Everyone is different.  Some are 50 but look 30.  Some are 21 but look 42.
Jul 02 12 01:11 am  Link  Quote 
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Shauna Carlo
Posts: 367
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I am SO glad you asked this question. I saw a previous thread here about models who set their age to 100 or over. The discussion went to age in general and some said they lie to say what they look like.

After reading some of it I got confused as to what I should do. I will be 32 this year and always hear that I look younger. Actually I've heard that most of my life. I see castings that I would fit perfectly measurements wise and whatnot. I have passed up many I REALLY wanted to try for. Now that I am older I see most castings that call for age are either teens/twenties or much older.

I too would like to hear views on what to do. And what people think about those who say what age they look like instead of what age they really are.
Jul 02 12 01:31 am  Link  Quote 
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Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18,763
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium


I wouldn't mind respoding to castings that I think are in my age range when I'm not acttually in the age range.

But I'm also not delusional. I've seen plenty of models who are 35 who think they look as a 27 year old, when they really don't. And they're all like "I hear this all the time", but dudes picking you up in a bar or familymembers kissing your ass really doesn't count...I think that's what pisses people off mostly

So I think it's fine as long as you're realistic smile
Jul 02 12 01:52 am  Link  Quote 
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Nikita Rumyantseva
Posts: 343
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom


I don't lie about my age. Why should I? smile 

Yes, i have replied to a casting call that required someone younger than my age and I got that job. I also once got rejected from a casting call of my age with the reason that I looked a bit too young for the look. But nothing wrong or bad about it. He told me he would like to work with me in some other projects. smile
Jul 02 12 02:40 am  Link  Quote 
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Image K
Posts: 23,366
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Wynd Mulysa wrote:
i'm starting to understand why some llamas lie about their age.

I feel you.

I'm starting to understand why some photographers don't want to work with liars.

Jul 02 12 02:44 am  Link  Quote 
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N i c
Posts: 68
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia


Good question. I certainly don't lie about my age but have occasionally responded to castings that specify an age with a comment noting I am outside the age specified and why I still applied. Got nothing to lose and I have secured several jobs - including 2 tv commercials and runway - by ignoring the age range. But I'd only apply to jobs that are within 5 or so years of my actual age. There are some things that suit younger models and some that suit 40+ or are not age-specific at all. Although, as my experience has found, the idea of what age X looks like is quite fluid.
Jul 02 12 03:51 am  Link  Quote 
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Photographe
Posts: 2,350
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


Hmm Shauna, you don't even look 25 in some pics...

Fibbing is not an option for anything paid, but as an ex-agent I can tell you there is a lot of fibbing going on at some levels, mainly about existing clients, age, sizes, and versatility, but that only happens because the photographer is dumb enough to take their word for it and not hold a casting. Personally I never lied to get someone a job, but definitely was economical with words sometimes, you're trying to paint the best picture, so paint the best picture.

In your case, I think the port speaks for itself, you could change your age to 111, but whether that's going to get you more work here, only other MM models could tell you perhaps.
Jul 02 12 03:55 am  Link  Quote 
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Odin Photo
Posts: 1,459
Salt Lake City, Utah, US


For personal projects I don't care. I want a look, not shoot notes that read a certain way. I'd shoot someone that was any age (nudes aside) as long as the look was what I wanted for the image.

However, if a paying client says we want a shoot with a 20-21 year old female, then it's not my call. Perhaps this is what you're running into sometimes?

Good luck and much success to you.
Jul 02 12 04:02 am  Link  Quote 
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StaciF
Posts: 875
Rochelle Park, New Jersey, US


I tend to photograph younger than I am....but it makes it difficult when I respond to castings.....But my rule is if I feel I am qualified I will submit. The worst that will happen is a no. I have my true age on my profile so there are no surprizes but everyone always tells me I do not look my age. And I never get cast when I apply for 40+ yr old gigs- go figure
Jul 02 12 04:30 am  Link  Quote 
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Kent Art Photography
Posts: 2,781
Ashford, England, United Kingdom


Actually, many models are rathe delusional about what ages they claim to look.

A thirty year old might look twenty in some badly photoshopped pics in an MM portfolio, but in real life, in the studio, usually the truth will show.
Jul 02 12 04:47 am  Link  Quote 
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Ironworx Productions
Posts: 285
Seneca, South Carolina, US


I really like when a model puts a headshot up in their port with no makeup or photoshop so I can get an idea of their real look.

Allot of people look younger than they are and I would have no issue hiring them for a shoot if they were 25 and looked 18. And the other way around applies as well.

Sometimes I get specific client criteria that wants a certain age range for the look their going for If I can get someone older that fits the project I will in many cases.

Last year I was shooting for Hilton and needed a couple that looked early 30's the male model I hired was 38 and the female model was 26 and the client loved it.
Jul 02 12 05:10 am  Link  Quote 
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J Jessica
Posts: 2,275
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, US


I don't lie about my age.
People think I lie when I say i'm 20 (i've been told I look younger), but I don't lie.
Actually, i'd rather not tell people my age because the conversation tends to get awkward.

Middle School kid: "What school to you go to?"
Me: "I'm in college"
Middle School kid: "really?"
*long awkward stare*
MS Kid: *goes on and on*
Jul 02 12 05:17 am  Link  Quote 
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James Ogilvie
Posts: 6,643
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


When it comes to castings, most people put parameters in there to weed out people that are ridiculously unqualified.

Example: if I'm looking for a girl with agency stats, she's at least five foot eight or taller, slim, and so on.

If that's what I need then getting replies from countless llamas who are shorter, heavier, or whatever just introduces a lot of work to weed through it all.  That of course doesn't stop some llamas from trying anyway.

Age is a very different prospect. In my view, if you want to lie about your age and you can get away with it, no one is harmed.  If you're 32 and look 24 and apply for a casting and got accepted then that means you had the look they wanted.

And after all, that's the whole point - having the look they want.

There's only one stipulation I would add.  You'd need to have the look they want 'in person' as opposed to a retouched set of portfolio images.  So if you can fool them in person, then there's no harm done at all by fudging your age.
Jul 02 12 05:37 am  Link  Quote 
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MatureModelMM
Posts: 1,067
Detroit, Michigan, US


I apply for modeling assignments that I think I would fit into, those which do not give a certain age range, and I specifically seek and reply to castings that ask for an older model.

There is something available for everyone, but I think it is a lot easier for younger models to find work.

I'll be 60 in a few weeks, and am very proud to still be modeling for artistic nudes, I would never have any reason to lie about my age. Most people I meet and most of the photographers and artists I have modeled for in the past 25 years do not think I look my age.
Jul 02 12 06:17 am  Link  Quote 
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MelissaAnn
Posts: 3,934
Seattle, Washington, US


I'm 30 and I don't lie about my age on my profile.  I figure that if a photographer decides to pass me by and use a girl who's 25, looks older than me, and isn't as good of a model, that's their loss.  That being said, I don't rely on modeling as my primary source of income, so I don't feel compelled to fit in as much as many older models who actually really need to make money doing this.  I would probably change my profile age to reflect what I believe to be something close to my apparent age (maybe 24 or 25) if modeling was my primary job.  I don't see any problem with putting your apparent age instead of your actual age as long as you're being realistic about it.
Jul 02 12 07:15 am  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
Posts: 35,327
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


MelissaAnn  wrote:
I'm 30 and I don't lie about my age on my profile.  I figure that if a photographer decides to pass me by and use a girl who's 25, looks older than me, and isn't as good of a model, that's their loss.  That being said, I don't rely on modeling as my primary source of income, so I don't feel compelled to fit in as much as many older models who actually really need to make money doing this.  I would probably change my profile age to reflect what I believe to be something close to my apparent age (maybe 24 or 25) if modeling was my primary job.  I don't see any problem with putting your apparent age instead of your actual age as long as you're being realistic about it.

I agree with this.

Jul 02 12 07:21 am  Link  Quote 
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Mortonovich II
Posts: 710
San Diego, California, US


Age range is a perfectly valid parameter in casting same as hair color/length, look, body type etc. It is not meant to be literal but more how one photographs. If a casting calls for a 22-25 commercial face and an 18 year old model photographs in that age range, fine. Just be realistic. (most are not)
Jul 02 12 07:32 am  Link  Quote 
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 6,167
New York, New York, US


Wynd Mulysa wrote:
and, since photographers are gonna be all up in here anyway: photographers: why do you post an age range requirement on your castings?  or why not?

I rarely do since, because I shoot only TF* my shoots are intrinsically collaborative.  There is almost never a cast-in-stone concept, more like a general idea that might go in several different directions.  Also, I don't really expect models to look like their pictures, at least not enough so to make a firm decision, so every first shoot is essentially an audition.  Much easier to know what a model can do and what you can do with him/her after working together once.

On those rare occasions that I do post an age range, it is an indication of how I see the finished product.  I would certainly hope that any model experienced enough to apply to a casting call would be aware of the range (s)he can effectively play and be guided accordingly. 

Sometimes, when I do post an age range, I get responses from models two or even as much as three times the indicated age.  And you know what?  Sometimes these ladies come up with spins that lead to a whole 'nother approach to add to the possibilities.  It pays to take these ideas into consideration.  Age (and experience) broadens more than the hips.  It sometimes broadens the mind as well.

Putting on my actor/(sometimes) model hat, I try to keep my current headshots both accurate and indicative of what I believe I can do best.  Thus I still use the (currently out of fashion for actors) composite and print to fit the casting call when I have enough information to do so.  That way I can offer a range of choices appropriate to the casting call.  I do include my effective age range in my resume along with all the other stats/skills.

Jul 02 12 08:12 am  Link  Quote 
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K I C K H A M
Posts: 14,632
Los Angeles, California, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:
Actually, many models are rathe delusional about what ages they claim to look.

A thirty year old might look twenty in some badly photoshopped pics in an MM portfolio, but in real life, in the studio, usually the truth will show.

Really? I see agency models who go against this all the time...

Whether it be 28 year olds (who, by the way are sold by the agency as 23) who look super young, or whether it's girls who are 21 who have been drinking like a fish, tanning, and possibly doing coke since they were 16 and now look 30-ish.

Also, knowing *how* many models I do that lie, I bet most of you have worked with some of them and not even KNOWN.

If I said I was 19, showed up looking 19, and the pictures came out as if I were 19, why would you question it?

You only think it's "obvious" when girls lie because some are really, really bad at it.

Jul 02 12 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
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K I C K H A M
Posts: 14,632
Los Angeles, California, US


I guess this thread shows one reason that being agency makes things easier. I kind of know my age range because I know what they're selling me as and sending me out for (and, what out of those I ever get called back on/ book). How do girls come up with this "realistic" number without representation?

I would find it VERY hard to look at myself and guess my own age-- I see myself everyday!

Maybe if you're outside of real carding range (30+) and you get carded on a daily basis while your friends are fine...
Jul 02 12 10:57 am  Link  Quote 
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Carl Blum Photography
Posts: 544
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Oh Lets just Stir –up this post…
Go ahead and slam me, but this is my honest point of view

When I post a Casting, whether here or somewhere else, with an age requirement, it is usually to get a look asked for by my clients.

Up to about age 20 is a youthful look, no wrinkles, bags under eyes from drinking, perky body that is natural and not from working out. Fashion types are in this category. I prefer this age as they usually show up on time and have a great attitude.

20 to 23, usually for the young woman look, college look, great for selling product or services and for looking sexy.

23 to 32, professional looking types. I will usually pick the younger ones as there is LESS photoshop on wrinkles required. Great for fitness shots etc…

33 and older, professional shots, real estate advertising and probably the sexiest of all the groups for fitness.

For Age castings: If a model shows up to a shoot, Age is Always verified. Those that have not told the truth are just sent home.
Jul 02 12 10:59 am  Link  Quote 
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john_ellis
Posts: 4,375
Spokane, Washington, US


Wynd Mulysa wrote:
i'm starting to understand why some models lie about their age.

i don't fully understand having rigid age requirements in castings, because everyone ages differently.  i seriously just responded to a casting for which i am too old, and said "since everyone thinks i'm 17 i thought i'd go ahead and write..."
but that person probably thinks i'm full of shit or something.

do you lie about your age?

do you respond to castings that are for models that are not in your age range, but in an age range you appear to be?

if so, how do you handle it?  [i sometimes just don't mention it and hope they don't look at my age listing.]

and, since photographers are gonna be all up in here anyway: photographers: why do you post an age range requirement on your castings?  or why not?

I've never listed age ranges for any casting on either of my profiles.

If I was going for a specific age look, then I'd specify, "Hey, looking for models who look between the ages of 30-35 (or whatever look I'm going for)."

I will say this though, I've had models respond to casting who have profiles which say they are much younger than their actual age, because they feel they look that age, but I'd definitely disagree with several of them.

I think it would be better for a profile to ask for real age, and then right under it have an age range they feel they can pull off (or maybe in their bio/info/whatev).

I really don't care about someone's actual age* in an image because it's all about you, know, the image. smile

* Disclaimer: The exception would be if they were a minor and needed a parent/guardian's approval, but that's more of a paperwork/legality issue.

Jul 02 12 11:01 am  Link  Quote 
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Star
Posts: 17,937
Los Angeles, California, US


you might look 17 to yourself, until you are partnered with an actual 17 year old model, then you will look old in comparison.

NO ONE thinks they look their age, they all think they look younger.

Age requirements are there for a reason, and it is disrespectful to not only the casting agent but the fellow people on the job to submit yourself if you do not fit the requirements.

I have been burned more than once by a model who shows up looking different then their photos (read older, fatter, bad skin) in a shoot, or a series of shoots, and is not appropriate for the shoot.

actual 17 year old model
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx106/lpalacios/102510%20Entertainment/102510FASHION.jpg
Jul 02 12 11:01 am  Link  Quote 
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K I C K H A M
Posts: 14,632
Los Angeles, California, US


Star wrote:
you might look 17 to yourself, until you are partnered with an actual 17 year old model, then you will look old in comparison.

NO ONE thinks they look their age, they all think they look younger.

Age requirements are there for a reason, and it is disrespectful to not only the casting agent but the fellow people on the job to submit yourself if you do not fit the requirements.

I have been burned more than once by a model who shows up looking different then their photos (read older, fatter, bad skin) in a shoot, or a series of shoots, and is not appropriate for the shoot.

actual 17 year old model
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx106/lpalacios/102510%20Entertainment/102510FASHION.jpg

Question-
There ARE models who look younger than they are. Usually not in the 17 year old range, but let's say they look 20 when they're 26. Again, it's hard to tell if they ACTUALLY look that age, or just think that they do.

But, is there anything to help? Posting polaroids, videos, etc?

Because sometimes the problem with girls posting real age is that they DON'T look that age, so they won't book those jobs.

Again, I guess I'm lucky to have an agency so I don't have to put up with this crap myself, but it can be confusing, definitely.

Jul 02 12 11:13 am  Link  Quote 
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Carl Blum Photography
Posts: 544
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


19 and No photoshop
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110626/15/4e07b3b07aa85_m.jpg

Same Here

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120517/21/4fb5d65a9abf3_m.jpg
Jul 02 12 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Star
Posts: 17,937
Los Angeles, California, US


K I C K H A M wrote:

Question-
There ARE models who look younger than they are. Usually not in the 17 year old range, but let's say they look 20 when they're 26. Again, it's hard to tell if they ACTUALLY look that age, or just think that they do.

But, is there anything to help? Posting polaroids, videos, etc?

Because sometimes the problem with girls posting real age is that they DON'T look that age, so they won't book those jobs.

Again, I guess I'm lucky to have an agency so I don't have to put up with this crap myself, but it can be confusing, definitely.

part of the problem is skin, ask a make-up artist if the skin of a 24 year old is the same as the skin of an 18 year old.

If you really do look younger then your agent will submit you to castings for younger models.

If you are freelance update your polaroids every few weeks, and post them in the about me section. Make sure they are lit evenly by natural light with a white bounce under you to fill in any shadows. If you taking them with a digital camera do that, not an iphone or ipad.

Remove any images that are over a year old from your main portfolio.

Don't respond to any castings where you are more than 3 years older than what they are looking for.

People tell me I look 24 all the time (I am 36) but if you look at a photo of me when i was 24 and a photo of me now you can see the difference.

Jul 02 12 11:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54,145
Buena Park, California, US


Apply to the casting but be honest about your age.  Let the casting agent decide based on your photos as to whether or not you can pull off the look they need.
Jul 02 12 11:24 am  Link  Quote 
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Star
Posts: 17,937
Los Angeles, California, US


Carl Blum Photography wrote:
19 and No photoshop
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110626/15/4e07b3b07aa85_m.jpg

Same Here

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120517/21/4fb5d65a9abf3_m.jpg

I can't critique here, but suffice to say that there are many elements to how a girl is presented on film and some of them can make them look older or younger

Jul 02 12 11:26 am  Link  Quote 
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LizzyB
Posts: 2,178
Rochester, New York, US


i don't lie about my age.
altho i suppose that i could respond for casting asking for a 21 y/o or so, seeing as i'm often mistaken as such. but i would likely add a note stating that while i am aware that i am not that age, that [the photographer] may find that i still look the part he is trying to fill.
that way, by adding the note, i won't look like i just ignored the age requirement.


edit: as for models always under-guessing their "age look," i have been mistaken for being under 21 by many people...who usually end up flabbergasted when i tell them how old i am (27.)
Jul 02 12 11:27 am  Link  Quote 
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K I C K H A M
Posts: 14,632
Los Angeles, California, US


Star wrote:
part of the problem is skin, ask a make-up artist if the skin of a 24 year old is the same as the skin of an 18 year old.

If you really do look younger then your agent will submit you to castings for younger models.

If you are freelance update your polaroids every few weeks, and post them in the about me section. Make sure they are lit evenly by natural light with a white bounce under you to fill in any shadows. If you taking them with a digital camera do that, not an iphone or ipad.

Remove any images that are over a year old from your main portfolio.

Don't respond to any castings where you are more than 3 years older than what they are looking for.

People tell me I look 24 all the time (I am 36) but if you look at a photo of me when i was 24 and a photo of me now you can see the difference.

Thanks, that's completely what I was looking for. smile

Yeah, I don't have to worry about it. I find that I get requested for a very broad age range, but rarely hear anything back from those on the higher side (2-4 years older than I am)... which is also helpful, because it may mean there's a discrepancy between my photos and how I look.

... but I don't know how I would by easy means figure any of that out if I were freelance.

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Koryn
Posts: 36,554
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Carl Blum Photography wrote:
Up to about age 20 is a youthful look, no wrinkles, bags under eyes from drinking,

I've had bags under my eyes since I was in 3rd grade. It was noticeable in elementary school photos, and when I was about 13, the doctor diagnosed it as resulting from chronic sinus infections as a kid, and severe upper respiratory allergies. As an adult, the bags will dissipate for months at a time, then reappear when I am working a lot, am very tired, or develop ... a sinus infection.

It's not just from drinking and abusing one's body.

Carl Blum Photography wrote:
33 and older... and probably the sexiest of all the groups for fitness.

I have noticed that, as my body gets older, I tend to lose more and more "baby fat" off my arms, calves and face, so it's easier to see tone. I had a very round, child-like face, up until I was 27 or so. After that, I actually started to get some visible cheekbones. Other parts of my body were similar. I was a bit overweight in my teens and early 20s though, so I had no tone at all at that time.

Jul 02 12 11:33 am  Link  Quote 
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Venessa Baez
Posts: 616
Tampa, Florida, US


If a casting says 18+, I won't write to them. Mostly because it may involve something that only a model 18+ is allowed to do (one example was, I applied to a casting that didn't have an age limit, they told me they loved my look but couldn't use me, because the male model would've been in a speedo and didn't want to have a minor in the shot)

While most things are acceptable to understand why I can't apply to them because of the pre-planned theme/concept, there are some people who are just rude.

I applied for a casting without an age limit and the photographer wrote back, "I'm sorry, I don't work with children".

Otherwise, I will apply to anything that interests me, be it swimsuit, lifestyle, commercial or high fashion. I've had people who don't even notice that I'm 17 till the day of the shoot (even though it's obvious on my page). They choose me because I've been doing this five years and have a versatile look. Age isn't everything, which it's good that some people realize that. Age doesn't define a person's work ethic or quality.
Jul 02 12 11:33 am  Link  Quote 
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Koryn
Posts: 36,554
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Star wrote:
part of the problem is skin, ask a make-up artist if the skin of a 24 year old is the same as the skin of an 18 year old.

I had an MUA, last fall, just look at my skin for a few seconds and say, "I can tell you've never smoked."

I had not told her anything about myself, so she was able to deduce that, just by looking at my complexion.

Pretty amazing.

Jul 02 12 11:35 am  Link  Quote 
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 4,164
Vineland, New Jersey, US


K I C K H A M wrote:
Maybe if you're outside of real carding range (30+) and you get carded on a daily basis while your friends are fine...

What happens if you get carded daily because the person doing the carding thinks you're hot and they want to know where you live?  Perhaps you're prettier than your friends so they never get asked. smile

Jul 02 12 11:37 am  Link  Quote 
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K I C K H A M
Posts: 14,632
Los Angeles, California, US


Lovely Day Media wrote:

What happens if you get carded daily because the person doing the carding thinks you're hot and they want to know where you live?  Perhaps you're prettier than your friends so they never get asked. smile

Haha. Maybe. I'm just saying it is harder to find indicators if you don't have someone who is in your best interest-- and not worried about hurting your feelings.

I've been sent out for as old as 28. My agency didn't care if that offended me, they thought I had a chance for the role... They've sent me out for as young as 18, and again, they have no interest in making me feel better about myself.

From the callbacks I've gotten and such, I'd say my realistic age range is about 19/20-26.

I would think if I were a freelance model, who didn't go out on castings everyday, it would be harder to deduce.

Jul 02 12 11:42 am  Link  Quote 
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Fotografica Gregor
Posts: 4,107
Alexandria, Virginia, US


If you are responding to a casting for someone's personal project it might not be an issue - however if publication may be involved,  *accurate* age and stats are vital to all concerned. 

For portfolio work, I am concerned about appearance and proportion and not "statistics" - however when it "counts"  I do need to know and if in doubt will move on
Jul 02 12 11:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Shauna Carlo
Posts: 367
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Star wrote:

part of the problem is skin, ask a make-up artist if the skin of a 24 year old is the same as the skin of an 18 year old.

If you really do look younger then your agent will submit you to castings for younger models.

If you are freelance update your polaroids every few weeks, and post them in the about me section. Make sure they are lit evenly by natural light with a white bounce under you to fill in any shadows. If you taking them with a digital camera do that, not an iphone or ipad.

Remove any images that are over a year old from your main portfolio.

Don't respond to any castings where you are more than 3 years older than what they are looking for.

People tell me I look 24 all the time (I am 36) but if you look at a photo of me when i was 24 and a photo of me now you can see the difference.

I look even younger in snap shots then I do in professional images. If I get rid of the highlights in my hair I will look that much younger in professional images. I've never drank, never done a drug in my life and don't smoke anything. I think that contributes to not having the same skin issues as others my age. I also don't work out and I eat nothing but junk. That is what will eventually catch up:p

At 24 did you look 24 or did you look younger? Even if you look 24 now chances are that at 24 you looked younger then 24. When I was 24 everybody thought I was 15. At 28 I was in an adult store looking for a costume. I didn't have my ID on me, I got screamed at by the woman working there. Telling me I knew I wasn't old enough to be in the store and to stop my lying or she'd tell my parents, that I should be ashamed of myself. She was shocked when I went back with my ID. Even then I didn't think I looked that young, I still don't. Others did. I look different then I did at 22 but not by much. I just look a bit older then how I looked then.

I don't want to turn this around on myself. I just wanted to make a point that everybody ages differently. I feel uncomfortable lying but also feel myself and others like the OP might be missing out.

Jul 02 12 01:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Wynd Mulysa
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Berkeley, California, US


i understand what some of you are saying about being delusional. 

but today i went and got a tour of the Y and the person giving me the tour said "this is teen hoops," and pointed to a door behind which some teens were playing basketball.  "you can just go and join in any time," they said.
and i am frustrated by everyone thinking i am younger than i am, because it often leads to me being treated as someone who doesn't know what i'm doing.  so where are the pros?  like getting hired for jobs i used to get hired for?  eek.

[it has happened but not as often as it seems for some people..]

and most of the images in my portfolio are makeup-less and not photoshopped.  i hope people will look at them and learn my look.  i guess i am just afraid that possible clients may just read the age at the top of my profile and then close the window without looking further.

i am not going to change my age listing, though, i didn't mean to give anyone that idea.

edit: also, i do not think i look 17, personally.  maybe not 27, but not 17 either.
Jul 02 12 02:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Wynd Mulysa
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Berkeley, California, US


K I C K H A M wrote:
You only think it's "obvious" when girls lie because some are really, really bad at it.

big_smile.

Jul 02 12 02:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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