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The Signature Image
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Gorham, Maine, US


I took a trip this past weekend to see my Mom in Virginia. After arriving at BWI Airport we took the 3-hour ride to Newport News. Along the way I noticed gas prices at various stations.

In Maryland the price was around $3.25. As we went further south the prices dropped even more. The lowest price I found in Virginia was $3.05. When I refilled the rental car I paid $3.13. Gas here in Maine is around $3.47 so I guess the varied prices depend on what area of the country you are in?

I was a little surprised at the gas prices. According to the GOP we were supposed to hit $5.00 a-gallon prices by this time of the year as they happily announced at the various press conferences and were equally as happy to blame the President for the rise in prices.

I've been away for a while. Did I miss the news conference announcing the drop in prices?
Jul 03 12 06:16 am  Link  Quote 
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Stephen Dawson
Posts: 29,104
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Oil was up $8 on Friday, flat yesterday and is up $3 today, so far.

Expect gas prices to rise soon.
Jul 03 12 06:23 am  Link  Quote 
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sublime LightWorks
Posts: 6,019
Atlanta, Georgia, US


GOP said $5 gas????

Is the NYTimes the GOP???

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/01/busin … allon.html

Is HuffPo the GOP????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-di … 44663.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-di … 93204.html

CNBC???

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46342617/Get_Rea … _Shell_CEO

MSNBC????

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 … -year?lite

CNN/Money????

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/16/markets … /index.htm

Nice try TSI....but as usual you are way far off the mark....so far off that it makes the $5/gallon prediction look close.

But please keep trying...even a broken clock is right a couple of times.
Jul 03 12 06:33 am  Link  Quote 
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RennsportPhotography
Posts: 16,866
Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US


sublime LightWorks wrote:
GOP said $5 gas????

Is the NYTimes the GOP???

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/01/busin … allon.html

Is HuffPo the GOP????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-di … 44663.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-di … 93204.html

CNBC???

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46342617/Get_Rea … _Shell_CEO

MSNBC????

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 … -year?lite

CNN/Money????

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/16/markets … /index.htm

Nice try TSI....but as usual you are way far off the mark....so far off that it makes the $5/gallon prediction look close.

But please keep trying...even a broken clock is right a couple of times.

isn't it amazing how one person can so consistantly be blinded by partisanship to NEVER see the real world

Jul 03 12 09:21 am  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


sublime LightWorks wrote:
GOP said $5 gas????

Is the NYTimes the GOP???

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/01/busin … allon.html

Is HuffPo the GOP????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-di … 44663.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-di … 93204.html

CNBC???

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46342617/Get_Rea … _Shell_CEO

MSNBC????

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 … -year?lite

CNN/Money????

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/16/markets … /index.htm

Nice try TSI....but as usual you are way far off the mark....so far off that it makes the $5/gallon prediction look close.

But please keep trying...even a broken clock is right a couple of times.

No, as usual you are off-topic and wrong. I said today's gas prices are as quoted and the gas prices listed are the gas prices I saw on my trip. Also, I do remember Cantor and Boehner and that bunch blaming the Presdient for high gas prices.

However, keep wishing for higher gas prices and rooting against the country and the consumer. You might get what you want.

However, as of today gas prices are falling and as much as that might piss you off it's a fact.

Jul 03 12 09:36 am  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


Robert Helm wrote:

isn't it amazing how one person can so consistantly be blinded by partisanship to NEVER see the real world

Today gas prices are falling but you and people like you can root against the country and its citizens all you want.

Today gas prices are creeping down and you being what you are will blame the President when prices are up but will allow him no credit when prices go down.

On my trip back I paid $3.13 a gallon. That's good news and the fact that it pisses you and people like you off makes me happy.

Jul 03 12 09:40 am  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,329
Phoenix, Arizona, US


The Signature Image wrote:

On my trip back I paid $3.13 a gallon. That's good news and the fact that it pisses you and people like you off makes me happy.

Oh, I'm so pissed that you paid $3.13 a gallon!!!!

Damn it all to hell. Sometimes I get so angry... I just want to.... OHHHHHHHH, just fuck it.

Jul 03 12 09:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Dream-foto
Posts: 4,002
Chico, California, US


Robert Helm wrote:
isn't it amazing how one person can so consistantly be blinded by partisanship to NEVER see the real world

Yeah it is Bob...

Jul 03 12 10:02 am  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

Oh, I'm so pissed that you paid $3.13 a gallon!!!!

Damn it all to hell. Sometimes I get so angry... I just want to.... OHHHHHHHH, just fuck it.

No, he/she you get pissed when the country gets good news. Good news does not validate your hatred of the President.

Jul 03 12 12:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
the pixel ninja
Posts: 2,108
Montpelier, Ohio, US


The Signature Image wrote:

Today gas prices are falling but you and people like you can root against the country and its citizens all you want.

Today gas prices are creeping down and you being what you are will blame the President when prices are up but will allow him no credit when prices go down.

On my trip back I paid $3.13 a gallon. That's good news and the fact that it pisses you and people like you off makes me happy.

actually i predicted gas prices to fall sharply approaching the election because obama wants that second term.
looks like i hit the nail on the head...hard smile

Jul 03 12 02:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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RodsHotShots
Posts: 2,413
Blaine, Washington, US


What was gas when barry took office? Just from memory I think it was $1.86. Yeah things are looking good.

Then one needs to understand behind the scenes the prez and his non free market group have been pulling strings for the re-election. This is done with the help of the boyz and girls at the Federal Reserve and thier crony partners the mega banks who get stuffed from time to time with bundles of cash with debt created money slapped on the backs of the working citizens   for zero interest because they are part of the cartel. That slap on the backs of all of us is a high price to pay for knocking down gas prices so the prez looks like he has done something for the economy. He hasn't but it makes the dumbed down think he has.



Take pride in $3.00 gas if it pleases you. I see it as Peter robbing Paul.  Paul being about to retire and he's freaking out that his money has moth holes in it.

The control freaks can only do so much.

We will see how inflation works out after the election.

If destroying free markets is worth jumping up and down over a .50 temp reduction at the gas pump here's a skip rope. Go for it.

My prediction.. the buck isn't going to buy what it does today after the election.
Jul 03 12 02:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,631
Hayward, California, US


It will go back up, as it naturally does every summer.  That's business.
Jul 03 12 02:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,631
Hayward, California, US


RodsHotShots wrote:
What was gas when barry took office? Just from memory I think it was $1.86. Yeah things are looking good.

your memory is horrible!

http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.html

Jul 03 12 02:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


RodsHotShots wrote:
What was gas when barry took office? Just from memory I think it was $1.86. Yeah things are looking good.

Then one needs to understand behind the scenes the prez and his non free market group have been pulling strings for the re-election. This is done with the help of the boyz and girls at the Federal Reserve and thier crony partners the mega banks who get stuffed from time to time with bundles of cash with debt created money slapped on the backs of the working citizens   for zero interest because they are part of the cartel. That slap on the backs of all of us is a high price to pay for knocking down gas prices so the prez looks like he has done something for the economy. He hasn't but it makes the dumbed down think he has.



Take pride in $3.00 gas if it pleases you. I see it as Peter robbing Paul.  Paul being about to retire and he's freaking out that his money has moth holes in it.

The control freaks can only do so much.

We will see how inflation works out after the election.

If destroying free markets is worth jumping up and down over a .50 temp reduction at the gas pump here's a skip rope. Go for it.

My prediction.. the buck isn't going to buy what it does today after the election.

Really? Please tell me how the President controls the price of oil and/or gas? Last I heard oil drilling and producing gas was 100% free enterprise.

But I drift. How does the President control the price of oil and gas -- through the Federal Reserve?

If the President could control gas prices we'd be paying $1.00 a-gallon so the President would help ensure his reelection.

But again I drift. How exactly does the President control oil and gas prices?

Jul 03 12 04:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


the pixel ninja wrote:

actually i predicted gas prices to fall sharply approaching the election because obama wants that second term.
looks like i hit the nail on the head...hard smile

Really? Now just how did the President "make sure" gas prices would fall -- 4 months before the election?

Jul 03 12 04:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robb Radford
Posts: 7,896
Margate, Florida, US


The Signature Image wrote:
No, as usual you are off-topic and wrong.

just remember if you are not agreeing with TSI you are off topic

Jul 03 12 06:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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ZingArts
Posts: 15,022
Pueblo, Colorado, US


The Signature Image wrote:
I took a trip this past weekend to see my Mom in Virginia. After arriving at BWI Airport we took the 3-hour ride to Newport News. Along the way I noticed gas prices at various stations.

In Maryland the price was around $3.25. As we went further south the prices dropped even more. The lowest price I found in Virginia was $3.05. When I refilled the rental car I paid $3.13. Gas here in Maine is around $3.47 so I guess the varied prices depend on what area of the country you are in?

I was a little surprised at the gas prices. According to the GOP we were supposed to hit $5.00 a-gallon prices by this time of the year as they happily announced at the various press conferences and were equally as happy to blame the President for the rise in prices.

I've been away for a while. Did I miss the news conference announcing the drop in prices?

HURRAY! Obama has sunk this country so much further in debt and made it near impossible to get a good paying job and unemployment still skyrocketed to the point people will just not drive anymore because they can't afford to. That's why gas prices are dropping. Have a good day.

Jul 03 12 06:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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00siris
Posts: 19,155
New York, New York, US


sublime LightWorks wrote:
[...]
Nice try TSI....but as usual you are way far off the mark....so far off that it makes the $5/gallon prediction look close.

But please keep trying...even a broken clock is right a couple of times.

Here's what some prominent GOPers have said.
John Boehner

John Boehner is urging members of his caucus to wield gas prices as a weapon, field-testing the line that “gas prices have more than doubled since the president took office.”

Newt Gingrich

With dozens of supporters holding “$2.50 a gallon” signs behind him during his speech at the Hyatt Regency San Francisco Airport Hotel Saturday, Gingrich admonished what he called the Obama Administration’s systemic failure in energy policy, and accused it of deliberately raising gas prices.

“When you fill up your tank, you can think of gas prices as the Obama tax,” he said.

Mitt Romney

When [Obama] ran for office, he said he wanted to see gasoline prices go up. He said that energy prices would skyrocket under his views, and he has selected three people to help him implement that program,” Romney told Fox News. He added that the president wanted higher energy costs to help quicken the transition from oil and other fossil fuels.

Rick Santorum

The president of the United States, when he ran for office, talked about – talked about how he could higher prices for gasoline,” Santorum told the crowd. “Why? Well, because he was concerned about global warming.

So now that the gas prices are going down, will they give Obama credit?

Jul 03 12 08:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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00siris
Posts: 19,155
New York, New York, US


RodsHotShots wrote:
What was gas when barry took office? Just from memory I think it was $1.86. Yeah things are looking good.
[...]

What was the gas prices July 4th, 2008 - this exact time PRIOR to Obama taking the office?

Gas prices scale record $4.10 a gallon.

The high cost of gas is one thing Americans won't be celebrating on July 4.

Retail gas prices in the U.S. rose overnight to a record high for the fifth straight day, a daily survey by auto club AAA showed Friday.

The national average price for a gallon of regular gas rose to an all-time high of $4.101, up from $4.098 the previous day.

Gas prices have surged 39% in the last year and are up about 3% in the last month.

Jul 03 12 08:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Greg Kolack
Posts: 17,243
Downers Grove, Illinois, US


RodsHotShots wrote:
What was gas when barry took office? Just from memory I think it was $1.86. Yeah things are looking good.

Is your memory that horrible, or do you make things up thinking no one knows any better?

Jul 03 12 09:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
Posts: 15,867
New York, New York, US


expect gas prices to rise soon

OPEC *really really really* wants crude oil to be at least at $100 barrel, not at the measly $87/barrel it has been hammered to today

just in time for the oil embargo in iran to be noticeable
Jul 03 12 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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RodsHotShots
Posts: 2,413
Blaine, Washington, US


I guess my memory was off by less than .20 according to Bloomberg news:


“When President Obama took office in 2009, the average price of gas nationwide was roughly $1.80 per gallon,” Representative Ed Whitfield, a Kentucky Republican, said yesterday at a House hearing on fuel prices. “In three years under President Obama, we have seen average gas prices increase almost $2 per gallon. This is unacceptable.”

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-0 … gas-prices

I also do not want to debate who is better the dems or the repub. They both are hell bent on destroying the value of the buck which is why today gas is truly cheap. Now with Obama care we can expect the dollar to further erode and things like gas and gold will go up in price.
Jul 03 12 10:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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00siris
Posts: 19,155
New York, New York, US


RodsHotShots wrote:
[...]
They both are hell bent on destroying the value of the buck which is why today gas is truly cheap. Now with Obama care we can expect the dollar to further erode and things like gas and gold will go up in price.

Are you still trying to make this point about gas prices under Bush as if he is the cause? Well, ...

1 - Please explain why Bush "allowed" oil prices to rise to nearly $148 per barrel during his presidency.

2 - Explain exactly how Bush was able cause gas prices to drop from that all time high to less than $1.60 per gallon.

3 - The 'cheaper' the American dollar is in the world market, the HIGHER the cost of oil - not cheaper so your point about "destroying the value of the buck" is illogical. Don't understand? OK, then just take a look at your 2 statements. You say the destroyed "value of the buck" is why gas is so "CHEAP" but in the very nest sentence you say FURTHER erosion of the dollar will cause the gas prices to go UP! tongue

**** 3b - If you still want to keep that "value of the buck" argument then you're actually defeating your own point. When the republican was in power, "the value of the buck" then is the cause of oil reaching an all time high. However, during the time period when the gas prices dropped dramatically under Bush, the value of the dollar was still struggling.

4 - Please explain how "ObamaCare" is tied to the 'value' of the dollar.
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Further, you say you don't want to debate this because both dems and repubs are the cause yet you continue to debate and you continue argue republican thinking. Go figure.

Your understanding of the things that you argue in this thread is woefully lacking. This might help.

Jul 04 12 04:56 am  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
Posts: 18,613
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


What's it dropped by...some 20 cents?  Give me a break.  I love how you're ignoring those that are telling you it will rise again- because it will.  Then remember the west coast prices are completely different and higher.

Not that you'd think about that.
Jul 04 12 04:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Stephen Dawson
Posts: 29,104
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
expect gas prices to rise soon

OPEC *really really really* wants crude oil to be at least at $100 barrel, not at the measly $87/barrel it has been hammered to today

just in time for the oil embargo in iran to be noticeable

The talking heads on TV yesterday placed anxiety about Iran as the main cause for the price run up on Friday and Tuesday.

It is worth noting that there are a number of "world oil prices". West Texas Intermediate Crude is the lowest, due to transportation bottlenecks keeping a lot of oil from reaching higher price markets.

The other major one, Brent (North Sea) is $10 higher.

The OPEC reference price is about $89, so, yes, the next OPEC meeting will likely result in a cut back of production.

The irony is that if the Keystone pipeline was currently in place, US oil would be close to the Brent price, since US oil would be exported to world markets.

The right wing nuts always blame Oboma for everything, but Oboma's go slow policy on Keystone is actually keeping prices down in the US.

Jul 04 12 05:31 am  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


00siris wrote:

Are you still trying to make this point about gas prices under Bush as if he is the cause? Well, ...

1 - Please explain why Bush "allowed" oil prices to rise to nearly $148 per barrel during his presidency.

2 - Explain exactly how Bush was able cause gas prices to drop from that all time high to less than $1.60 per gallon.

3 - The 'cheaper' the American dollar is in the world market, the HIGHER the cost of oil - not cheaper so your point about "destroying the value of the buck" is illogical. Don't understand? OK, then just take a look at your 2 statements. You say the destroyed "value of the buck" is why gas is so "CHEAP" but in the very nest sentence you say FURTHER erosion of the dollar will cause the gas prices to go UP! tongue

**** 3b - If you still want to keep that "value of the buck" argument then you're actually defeating your own point. When the republican was in power, "the value of the buck" then is the cause of oil reaching an all time high. However, during the time period when the gas prices dropped dramatically under Bush, the value of the dollar was still struggling.

4 - Please explain how "ObamaCare" is tied to the 'value' of the dollar.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Further, you say you don't want to debate this because both dems and repubs are the cause yet you continue to debate and you continue argue republican thinking. Go figure.

Your understanding of the things that you argue in this thread is woefully lacking. This might help.

You are waiting for an answer? Seriously? This is but one of many things that infects these forums: People who lack facts to support their arguments turn to FOX/Tea Party/right-wing talking points and expect you to believe that their argument is original.

To the Usual Suspects any good news (even if it affects them positively) is bad news if it will help the President. They root for higher gas prices. They root for a poor economy -- even though negatives such as a poor economy hurt them as well.

The bottom line? No United States President has control over gasoline prices. However, if you are going to blame the President for high gas prices then you must give credit when gas prices drop.

Jul 04 12 06:02 am  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
Posts: 11,704
Gorham, Maine, US


Robb Radford wrote:

just remember if you are not agreeing with TSI you are off topic

No, feel free to disagree with me even if you are not qualified to do so. In my opinion, and personally, you rarely present facts to support the weak arguments you present. You just pick another topic, ramble and vomit up words that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You are the quintessential example of a person who will ignore facts at all costs as long as you are able to mumble on about your hatred for the President.

Jul 04 12 06:09 am  Link  Quote 
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The Signature Image
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Gorham, Maine, US


ZingArts wrote:

HURRAY! Obama has sunk this country so much further in debt and made it near impossible to get a good paying job and unemployment still skyrocketed to the point people will just not drive anymore because they can't afford to. That's why gas prices are dropping. Have a good day.

Off-topic and silly and just another example of you talking just to be talking.

Jul 04 12 06:11 am  Link  Quote 
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AdelaideJohn1967
Posts: 10,781
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia


In the USA do gas prices go up one part of the week and then down in another part of the week.

I ask because in our side of the ocean in Oz gas prices come down durning the middle of the week usually, and then rise as the weekend approaches. And when one service station changes its prices, as if by magic all the others also change their prices. And the industry claims no collusion ....
Jul 04 12 06:14 am  Link  Quote 
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ASYLUM - Photo
Posts: 37,826
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Gas prices rise: Obama is destroying the country by not controlling gas prices!

Gas prices lower: Obama is destroying this country, as you can see by the falling gas prices!

It's quite fun.
Jul 04 12 06:15 am  Link  Quote 
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 22,719
Dearborn, Michigan, US


The Signature Image wrote:
I took a trip this past weekend to see my Mom in Virginia. After arriving at BWI Airport we took the 3-hour ride to Newport News. Along the way I noticed gas prices at various stations.

In Maryland the price was around $3.25. As we went further south the prices dropped even more. The lowest price I found in Virginia was $3.05. When I refilled the rental car I paid $3.13. Gas here in Maine is around $3.47 so I guess the varied prices depend on what area of the country you are in?

I was a little surprised at the gas prices. According to the GOP we were supposed to hit $5.00 a-gallon prices by this time of the year as they happily announced at the various press conferences and were equally as happy to blame the President for the rise in prices.

I've been away for a while. Did I miss the news conference announcing the drop in prices?

lol  Really!

Jul 04 12 06:36 am  Link  Quote 
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Chris Rifkin
Posts: 22,684
Tampa, Florida, US


ASYLUM - Photo wrote:
Gas prices rise: Obama is destroying the country by not controlling gas prices!

Gas prices lower: Obama is destroying this country, as you can see by the falling gas prices!

It's quite fun.

Not an Obama fan as I am a libertarian/conservative...
with that said the president has absolutely ZERO to do with gas prices
Said this with Bush the previous 8 years as well

Jul 04 12 06:42 am  Link  Quote 
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Robb Radford
Posts: 7,896
Margate, Florida, US


Chris Rifkin wrote:
Not an Obama fan as I am a libertarian/conservative...
with that said the president has absolutely ZERO to do with gas prices
Said this with Bush the previous 8 years as well

true, but voters are stupid and proven so for a couple of decades or elected officials, also proven by the OP who said it was the GOP that called for $5 a gallon but lacks a link to prove it

Jul 04 12 06:58 am  Link  Quote 
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RodsHotShots
Posts: 2,413
Blaine, Washington, US


00sirus

not sure how it is even possible to do but you twisted every single thing I said. Not worth trying to unravel your misdirection because you will just twist my meaning whatever I say. So be happy with your delusions.

Bottom line for people who think Presidents have nothing to do with gas prices is they do not see the forest for the trees. Ie... forget about the promises when these men run for President that they will cut the deficit, rein in spending, stop the senseless wars for profit, all of which would favour lower gas prices because doing so would allow the economy to grow quickly.

Thats the crux right there.. ballon the money supply.. balloon the debt, kick the can down the road. This was the Bush agenda and this is the Obama agenda. These policies have everything to do with gas prices staying high and in the future going higher.



I will restate. Bush Obama same. Both lie and then further erode our dollars purchasing power thru non ending wars for profit, bailouts to select banks, corp and money for free everything. Balloning the deficit creating such high interest payments pulling that money from the working class with loss of jobs and business growth. 

Please stop condoning the wealth destroying people in power who have little regard for actually creating prosperity by allowing the economy to grow naturally.

Stop acting like these Presidents who chose their economic team are not responsible for sucking the vibrancy from the economy or that they have nothing to do with its demise.

These Presidents have one agenda.. to carry out their masters wishes. The offshore mega banks who own and control Congress, the media and even the WH. That is to continue hi-jacking America's economy.

Did everyone get it? Bush/ Obama are two peas in the same pod.

Both of them are anti freedom and work for the imploding of America's economy. If I was wrong we would see a different set of circumstances.

Jesse Ventura recently said.. people think they are offered choices between the rep and dems. They are not.. both parties are now basically the same and have sold out to the mega banks.
Jul 04 12 12:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
Posts: 15,867
New York, New York, US


this is a fun topic to talk about

but I'm considering being a full time oil speculator


and I'll join the masses of complainers if I go bankrupt

it just seems like a better side of the fence to be on
Jul 04 12 12:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robb Radford
Posts: 7,896
Margate, Florida, US


The Signature Image wrote:

No, feel free to disagree with me even if you are not qualified to do so. In my opinion, and personally, you rarely present facts to support the weak arguments you present. You just pick another topic, ramble and vomit up words that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You are the quintessential example of a person who will ignore facts at all costs as long as you are able to mumble on about your hatred for the President.

speaking of people who vomit up words and talks about lack of facts have you read most of your posst that are mostly factually wrong oh wait you will play your little game of prove me wrong which has been played many times proving you wrong. You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on your sorry ass. Hatred? I never said I hated him I have said I disagree with him big difference but hell you have never been one to get facts right anyway

Jul 04 12 12:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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