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Ally Moy
Posts: 381
Morris Plains, New Jersey, US


I just want a quick answer so I'm asking here rather than scouring instruction manuals.

I just want the images I import to auto rotate the vertical shots in the Lightroom 4 catalog...and wherever else I would open them. I'm shooting with a new d800 so the option could very well be in the camera. I don't want them to rotate on the camera LCD though. The camera and Lightroom version are both new to me so I am assuming it is just something that needs to be setup.
Jul 17 12 05:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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tenrocK photo
Posts: 5,107
New York, New York, US


So, you get 2 new wonderful tools (not cheap I might add) and are not interested in finding out how they work from the manuals in which a ton of info is given? SMH

If you're not interested in the details that make these a cut above most others, do yourself a favor and sell them, then pick up $500 worth of gear. Same results anyway.
Jul 17 12 10:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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natural beauties of qld
Posts: 1,425
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


Lightroom imports in the orientation that the images are shot.  You can rotate an image in lightroom once it is imported but I am unaware of any way that you can do this other than image by image.
Jul 17 12 11:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Barry Kidd Photography
Posts: 2,260
Red Lion, Pennsylvania, US


natural beauties of qld wrote:
Lightroom imports in the orientation that the images are shot.  You can rotate an image in lightroom once it is imported but I am unaware of any way that you can do this other than image by image.

Any image that I shoot with a D3 will automatically import to the orientation that it was shot at. That body is 4 years old.

Not that I would know about the newer cameras as I don't have one but ---

Jul 17 12 11:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ally Moy
Posts: 381
Morris Plains, New Jersey, US


tenrocK photo wrote:
So, you get 2 new wonderful tools (not cheap I might add) and are not interested in finding out how they work from the manuals in which a ton of info is given? SMH

If you're not interested in the details that make these a cut above most others, do yourself a favor and sell them, then pick up $500 worth of gear. Same results anyway.

This adjustment has no bearing on creativity or the photos themselves. I needed a quality upgrade and the software that goes with the upgrade.  Please do not respond with useless insulting answers.

I looked through the menus. I have obviously missed seeing it somewhere or do not know what it's labeled. Asked for help.

Jul 18 12 01:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Per Rutquist
Posts: 131
Freiburg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany


Maybe the orientation sensor in your camera is broken.

Do the images show up with correct orientation in other image viewers, or in Windows Explorer?
Jul 18 12 02:44 am  Link  Quote 
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Connor Photography
Posts: 4,967
Newark, Delaware, US


Ally Moy wrote:
I just want a quick answer so I'm asking here rather than scouring instruction manuals.

I just want the images I import to auto rotate the vertical shots in the Lightroom 4 catalog...and wherever else I would open them. I'm shooting with a new d800 so the option could very well be in the camera. I don't want them to rotate on the camera LCD though. The camera and Lightroom version are both new to me so I am assuming it is just something that needs to be setup.

You can't.  I have the same problem.  I don't like the D800 or any other cam to flip the image for me, but without this setting LR will not flip them for you.

I just select all images in LR, and flip it once.  There will a few were shot landscape, I just need to flip them manually.  I get used it now.

I have to admit, I have never read the D800 manual either.  If something that I can't figure out, then it was the designer problems.  They have to go back to drawing board to redesign it.  But then I am a rocket scientist, there is nothing I can't figure it out.  LOL

Jul 18 12 06:49 am  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Connor Photography wrote:
You can't.  I have the same problem.  I don't like the D800 or any other cam to flip the image for me, but without this setting LR will not flip them for you.

Umm... what?  I have it turned off on my D300s so that it doesn't auto-rotate in camera.  They still orient properly in both Bridge and Lightroom.  The in-camera setting is only for in-camera display.

Hence the option being in the "playback menu" and not the "shooting menu".  It's "Rotate tall" on the D300s.  I would imagine the option is probably the same on the D800.

Jul 18 12 06:55 am  Link  Quote 
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Marty McBride
Posts: 2,984
Owensboro, Kentucky, US


Kaouthia wrote:

Umm... what?  I have it turned off on my D300s so that it doesn't auto-rotate in camera.  They still orient properly in both Bridge and Lightroom.  The in-camera setting is only for in-camera display.

Hence the option being in the "playback menu" and not the "shooting menu".  It's "Rotate tall" on the D300s.  I would imagine the option is probably the same on the D800.

This. I have noticed when using the microsoft camera wizard or windows to download images, that it doesn't rotate them for me. I use ViewNX 2 and it does this automatically. When viewing within Nikon ViewNX, the raw and jpgs are correctly displayed, but when viewing the jpg images in windows gallery, they are not and must be manually rotated....the raw files are properly displayed though.

Jul 18 12 07:11 am  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


That's a point, I hadn't considered JPG.  I only shoot RAW.  JPG would depend on whether the app you're viewing it with obeys the camera orientation part of the metadata or not (I have the same problem transferring images over from my iPhone - Bridge/the iPhone displays them the right way up, but the windows image viewer does not).
Jul 18 12 07:17 am  Link  Quote 
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rfordphotos
Posts: 2,673
Antioch, California, US


from page 331 of the D800 manual--------    a really cool book they just GIVE you when you buy the camera!


Auto Image Rotation   

Photographs taken while On is selected contain information on camera orientation, allowing them to be rotated automatically during playback (0 266) or when viewed in ViewNX 2 (supplied) or in Capture NX 2 (available separately; 0 389). The following orientations are recorded:

Landscape (wide)
orientation

Camera rotated 90°
clockwise

Camera rotated 90°
counter-clockwise

Camera orientation is not recorded when Off is selected. Choose this option when panning or taking photographs with the lens pointing up or down.


A Rotate Tall
To automatically rotate “tall” (portrait-orientation) photographs for display during playback, select On for the Rotate tall option in the playback menu (0 266).
Jul 18 12 09:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Lars R Peterson
Posts: 1,016
Seattle, Washington, US


I would be really surprised if your camera does not have this function.
I'm shooting a Canon 7D, but Nikon is right up there with Canon in terms of badass-ery... wink  In my Canon, I set the preview image to not rotate, and the image orientation to auto rotate. When I look at the image on the LCD, it fills the whole screen, regardless of how it was shot, and when I import (onto either Mac or PC, Bridge, Lightroom, Xee, Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, or ANY other software I have used) the image displays in the orientation I shot it in. (right side up.)

I discovered these settings in the menu on the camera without ever having to consult the manual.
Jul 18 12 09:37 am  Link  Quote 
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tenrocK photo
Posts: 5,107
New York, New York, US


Ally Moy wrote:

This adjustment has no bearing on creativity or the photos themselves. I needed a quality upgrade and the software that goes with the upgrade.  Please do not respond with useless insulting answers.

I looked through the menus. I have obviously missed seeing it somewhere or do not know what it's labeled. Asked for help.

I apologize. I never realized until today that reading manuals was useless and insulting. Thank you for pointing this out to me. From now on, no more reading manuals for me, I'm that badass.

Jul 18 12 11:44 am  Link  Quote 
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Ally Moy
Posts: 381
Morris Plains, New Jersey, US


tenrocK photo wrote:

I apologize. I never realized until today that reading manuals was useless and insulting. Thank you for pointing this out to me. From now on, no more reading manuals for me, I'm that badass.

I didn't even know if it was an in camera setting or in lightroom or what the exact label was called. My last cameras default setting was to do the auto rotate. I seriously do not see why people get mad at asking a simple question to save time. What is the point of asking any question about anything if the answer is flip through a giant manual, google it, read tutorials, whatever else stupid info people give. If someone knew on here I could have very well gotten an answer by the time I checked back in the thread the first time.

And honestly the fact that some people said 'you can't'...well maybe they could benefit from a proper answer too.

I found the setting in camera now, but I see no reason why me asking to save myself some time is somehow a judgement on my work. I do not care about learning every little setting under the sun that i will never touch again or use. I already know how to use a modern nikon camera and the menu options i use day to day.


Basically. I had only seen the Rotate Tall option. That is not it. I did not see Auto Image Rotation the first time.

End of story.

Jul 18 12 01:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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silverystars
Posts: 2,524
Allentown, Pennsylvania, US


Ally Moy wrote:
I didn't even know if it was an in camera setting or in lightroom or what the exact label was called. My last cameras default setting was to do the auto rotate. I seriously do not see why people get mad at asking a simple question to save time.

they get mad because the only one saving time is you.  if you'd just looked in the table of contents or the index, you would have found the answer in less time than it took you to type up the question.

instead, you're asking us to figure out the answer for you that was only an arm's reach away.

Jul 18 12 01:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jonathan Ocab
Posts: 568
Riverside, California, US


I've never owned a Nikon dSLR (I shoot Canon) so I'm just guessing based on the manual, but check page 331:

http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/dslr/D800_EN.pdf
Jul 18 12 01:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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PhotosbyChuck
Posts: 2,208
Glen Ellyn, Illinois, US


Ally Moy wrote:
I just want a quick answer so I'm asking here rather than scouring instruction manuals.

I just want the images I import to auto rotate the vertical shots in the Lightroom 4 catalog...and wherever else I would open them. I'm shooting with a new d800 so the option could very well be in the camera. I don't want them to rotate on the camera LCD though. The camera and Lightroom version are both new to me so I am assuming it is just something that needs to be setup.

As long as the orientation tag is there in the EXIF, then the data is available to the app.  Lightroom 4 should automatically use it.  You can see that by looking at a raw file (or an un-edited JPG).

You should be aware that when LR4 or other apps read this tag, they re-orient the image for display, but do not change the file itself.  If you're shooting RAW, I'm not aware of any app that fails to use the orientation tag.  If you're shooting JPG, you may find less support for it.

Jul 18 12 01:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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