T wrote:

Hi T very funny. How have you been?

Borgia wrote:

Hi T very funny. How have you been?

I'm great!Thx

T wrote:
I would like to share an experience with you about drinking and driving.

As you well know, some of us have been known to have had brushes with the authorities on our way home from the odd social sessions over the years. A couple of nights ago, I was out for a few drinks with some friends at the Marriott Hotel and had a few too many beers and some rather nice red wine. Knowing full well I may have been slightly over the limit, I did something I've never done before: I took a bus home.

Sure enough I passed a police road block but as it was a bus, they waved it past. I arrived home safely without incident, which was a real surprise; as I have never driven a bus before and am not sure where I got it.

Happy Friday.

Whoa

ShivaKitty wrote:
I'm NOT implying you lie about it, OP. Not at all. Your anecdote was a good motivator/reminder to people who do go out drinking and overdo it - which was likely your original objective.

Just saying that I think driving drunk is a much larger problem than anyone wants to admit, so commonly accepted preventive measures do not really seem to discourage it much, if at all.

Read the OP again....it was a joke.

T wrote:



Read the OP again....it was a joke.

....you know, I read your whole post through when I first read it, so I have no idea why the punchline flew right over my head.

ShivaKitty wrote:
....you know, I read your whole post through when I first read it, so I have no idea why the punchline flew right over my head.

It's all good

I had my husband to build me a huge deck, we bbq and party and drink at home. I even encourage my girls to have their gathers here. DC wants to pass a law, first offense you get 6 months in jail. That's .

T wrote:
It's all good

I had my husband to build me a huge deck, we bbq and party and drink at home. I even encourage my girls to have their gathers here. DC wants to pass a law, first offense you get 6 months in jail. That's .

That is excessive!

T wrote:
first offense you get 6 months in jail. That's .

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
That is excessive!

holy shit.



I do think the consequences for police, firefighters and public servant people caught drunk driving should maybe be more serious than for others.

I've heard a few local stories of people getting off completely from drunk driving charges, JUST because they are a public servant, and the police department or fire department or whatever, doesn't want the story to get out into the community and embarrass their department. Not cool at all.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

That is excessive!

Not to someone that has lost multiple family members as the result of people driving under the influence.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
That is excessive!

D.C. is looking to crack down even more on drunk drivers, implementing new, stricter penalties.

Starting today, the maximum fine for a first offense goes up from $300 to $1000. The maximum jail time on a first offense is now six months, up from just 90 days.

Those caught with a child in the car face a fine of a thousand dollars per child and a mandatory 5-day jail term.

Those caught for the second time will also face harsher minimum sentences.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local … 62596.html

Blue Cube Imaging wrote:
Not to someone that has lost multiple family members as the result of people driving under the influence.

There should be punishment but for a first offense where the person is found to be over the limit and nothing else.  That is excessive.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

That is excessive!

DC is a nightmare to drive in stone-cold sober, in broad daylight, in light traffic.  Possibly THE worst place I have ever driven- and after the first time I refused to ever do it again.  I drove to a place where I could catch the public transit and walked from there.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

There should be punishment but for a first offense where the person is found to be over the limit and nothing else that is excessive.

Yep, 6 months sounds like a good start.

According to the guy that killed my brother in law and his dad "it was the first time I ever drank and drove".

Blue Cube Imaging wrote:
Yep, 6 months sounds like a good start.

According to the guy that killed my brother in law and his dad "it was the first time I ever drank and drove".

I said over the limit and "nothing else"!
The punishment should be appropriate for the infraction that is committed.
What you are talking about is completely different.

The Original Sin  wrote:

DC is a nightmare to drive in stone-cold sober, in broad daylight, in light traffic.  Possibly THE worst place I have ever driven- and after the first time I refused to ever do it again.  I drove to a place where I could catch the public transit and walked from there.

i know right!

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

I said over the limit and "nothing else"!
The punishment should be appropriate for the infraction that is committed.
What you are talking about is completely different.

Um... no it's not. Over the limit means over the limit... drunk... impaired to drive... it doens't matter if they were 'something else' as well, they are already over the limit and shouldn't be driving! I know of several people who have been killed by drunk drivers. Drivers that thought they weren't that drunk. Turns out they were wrong.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

I said over the limit and "nothing else"!
What you are talking about is completely different.

He was only 0.09 (limit in Oregon is 0.08), he still killed two people and impacted a dozen other lives forever.

The "nothing else" is non-consequential, how do you set a limit on "nothing else", it is the "what if" that counts.

If one set of parents, one family, one person can be saved the anguish of losing a loved by stiffer sentencing guidelines then so be it.

Blue Cube Imaging wrote:

Yep, 6 months sounds like a good start.

According to the guy that killed my brother in law and his dad "it was the first time I ever drank and drove".

Wouldn't be great, if you killed someone due to impaired driving, you got a lifesentence no questions asked... Cause really, you made the decision to get in your car and recklessly endanger everyone on the road. You chose to take the risk of killing someone, and it happened. Life in jail. Sigh, if only the justice system actually did justice...

csjacksonphotography wrote:
LOL, T!

hey sweetie

Rachael Bueckert wrote:

Wouldn't be great, if you killed someone due to impaired driving, you got a lifesentence no questions asked... Cause really, you made the decision to get in your car and recklessly endanger everyone on the road. You chose to take the risk of killing someone, and it happened. Life in jail. Sigh, if only the justice system actually did justice...

I just had jury duty a few weeks ago, it was a DUII case... Think they let me on that jury? 

Blue Cube Imaging wrote:

I just had jury duty a few weeks ago, it was a DUII case... Think they let me on that jury? 

No, because you are vindictive.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

No, because you are vindictive.

And you would let the guy go with a slap on the wrist... just so he can do it again and perhaps kill someone... good for you, I'd rather be vindictive and save a life.

Rachael Bueckert wrote:

And you would let the guy go with a slap on the wrist... just so he can do it again and perhaps kill someone... good for you, I'd rather be vindictive and save a life.

I didn't say what the punishment should be but for that infraction 6 months in jail would be excessive.