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A-M-P
Posts: 17,919
Orlando, Florida, US


I have been retouching for a while  and been looking to try something different lately just to refresh my mind. So I decided to give digital art a try I was bored today and looking at some awesome work online and was like hmmm let me give it a try.

I have never drawn hair or ever done any manipulation or making actual scenery before this is my first attempt ever so please keep that in mind. I can barely draw a stick figure lol Thoughts?


All stock images.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg803/scaled.php?server=803&filename=62748157.jpg&res=landing

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http://angelaperez.uphero.com/First%20manipulationweb.jpg

After I did it I wasn't feeling the composition I was suppose to add more things to the right side which is why I place model to the left  but then I got tired. So yeah next time will start to finish. Since this one was just practice.
Aug 28 12 08:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 31,986
Los Angeles, California, US


Think of hair in middle frequency bundles or locks, (as it is in the original), with higher frequency flyaways off of those.

Did you Gaussian blur that background? If so, Gaussian blur is not a giood substitute for lens blur.

Good start.
Aug 28 12 09:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
A-M-P
Posts: 17,919
Orlando, Florida, US


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Think of hair in middle frequency bundles or locks, (as it is in the original), with higher frequency flyaways off of those.

Did you Gaussian blur that background? If so, Gaussian blur is not a giood substitute for lens blur.

Good start.

I did Lens blur (8 blade Octagon) do you recommend a diferent setting?, Yeah I was completely lost as far as hair since I can't draw.  I  freaked out on trying to make it look like hair and did way to many flyaways and was stumbled on where to place the lighter hair as well. I think next time I will draw me a template first and then start filling in it might make the learning curve easier.

Thanks

Aug 29 12 05:04 am  Link  Quote 
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Matt Schmidt
Posts: 3,643
Greensboro, North Carolina, US


A solid 'C'

I have noted on occasion what makes a seamless image to my eyes.

The background and foreground lighting should match.  By muddying up the background to fade into pieces of the fore image will destroy the natural look to the eye and makes it less believable to a viewer.

Background selection is tricky and must take into consideration 'What Fits'.  I myself struggle with this and often abandon it in lieu of developing the real scene or backdrop from scratch.  Understanding that a castle is most impossible to fabricate . . . personally I'd opt for a setting less ambitious and more eye convincing.

Detail needs to be maintained and be contiguous throughout the setting.  A wispy fudge here and smear of paint there detracts from the realism.  Is the image half airbrushed with pieces or real photo layered in or is it the other way around.  A convincing image will have an equal blend whereby all part will look as if they were created using the same technique.

Keep improving and refining . . . it's what we do.
Aug 29 12 05:21 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
A-M-P
Posts: 17,919
Orlando, Florida, US


Fotographahaulic wrote:
A solid 'C'

I have noted on occasion what makes a seamless image to my eyes.

The background and foreground lighting should match.  By muddying up the background to fade into pieces of the fore image will destroy the natural look to the eye and makes it less believable to a viewer.

Background selection is tricky and must take into consideration 'What Fits'.  I myself struggle with this and often abandon it in lieu of developing the real scene or backdrop from scratch.  Understanding that a castle is most impossible to fabricate . . . personally I'd opt for a setting less ambitious and more eye convincing.

Detail needs to be maintained and be contiguous throughout the setting.  A wispy fudge here and smear of paint there detracts from the realism.  Is the image half airbrushed with pieces or real photo layered in or is it the other way around.  A convincing image will have an equal blend whereby all part will look as if they were created using the same technique.

Keep improving and refining . . . it's what we do.

Yes I agree original idea was to make it all more like a painting but I have yet to acquired those skills on how to make te entire scene look like a painting hopefully with more practice I will know how to paint the model and everything else.

Thanks

Aug 29 12 08:26 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Robert LC
Posts: 944
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


Definitely like the color pallet.
I'd work more on the composition (maybe check out some books/tuts on that in sketching and traditional painting) and on the lighting and masks.

Clean up the composition (background building is fighting for attention with the main subject), using vanishing points to help with perspective (for example, the camera is looking up to the head of the woman but the surroundings have a downwards perspective) and matching light will help merging things together dramatically. Clean masks, with various sharpness, depending on dof and distance to the camera, is of course also important.
Aug 29 12 05:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
A-M-P
Posts: 17,919
Orlando, Florida, US


Since we are already here this is my second attempt. This might be a little all over the place as it was experimentation of different effects.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120829/20/503ede44346de.jpg
Aug 30 12 05:11 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Joe Diamond
Posts: 269
Bucharest, Bucharest, Romania


I think is very good for your first attempt, if you want to have a realistic composition you have to know the light direction and shadows reflection. Hair indeed is not the best choice. You can find on DA many hair brushes and you can add the light reflection after
Aug 30 12 09:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Angela Perez
Posts: 340
Orlando, Florida, US


Joe Diamond wrote:
I think is very good for your first attempt, if you want to have a realistic composition you have to know the light direction and shadows reflection. Hair indeed is not the best choice. You can find on DA many hair brushes and you can add the light reflection after

Hair brushes didn't know about those. Thanks will check it out. Are there any youtube channels or websites that you recommend for learning photo manipulation techniques etc. Thank You smile

I'm the OP on my retoucher account

Aug 31 12 11:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rebecca Christine
Posts: 7,068
Chester, England, United Kingdom


First one - Bird in foreground is too much in focus and high quality compared to the rest, hair at the 'fringe' area is a bit weird but I can't work out why and the background needs lens blur vs. gaussian blur

Second one is much better but Spiderman appears quite cartoonish compared to the woman.
Aug 31 12 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Joe Diamond
Posts: 269
Bucharest, Bucharest, Romania


Angela Perez wrote:

Hair brushes didn't know about those. Thanks will check it out. Are there any youtube channels or websites that you recommend for learning photo manipulation techniques etc. Thank You smile

I'm the OP on my retoucher account

These are the brushes http://browse.deviantart.com/resources/ … es/?q=hair

I started with www.psdtuts.com but you can also find tutorials on DA

Sep 01 12 06:49 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Angela Perez
Posts: 340
Orlando, Florida, US


RebeccaChristine wrote:
First one - Bird in foreground is too much in focus and high quality compared to the rest, hair at the 'fringe' area is a bit weird but I can't work out why and the background needs lens blur vs. gaussian blur

Second one is much better but Spiderman appears quite cartoonish compared to the woman.

I did use lens blur. I did not use gaussian blur.  Maybe the settings used make it appear gaussian like?. Thanks for the crit. smile

Sep 01 12 08:39 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Angela Perez
Posts: 340
Orlando, Florida, US


Joe Diamond wrote:

These are the brushes http://browse.deviantart.com/resources/ … es/?q=hair

I started with www.psdtuts.com but you can also find tutorials on DA

Thank this help a lot smile

Sep 01 12 08:42 am  Link  Quote 
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