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Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


employed photog.'s by a company as the photographer in the field editorial and/or commercial shoots,that are on MM?
Aug 31 12 12:32 am  Link  Quote 
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Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,230
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium


Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
employed full time/part time photog.'s for a company as the photographer in the field editorial and/or commercial shoots,that are on MM?

could you rephrase that question?

there are photographers on MM who do photography full time, yes. both editorial and commercial (usually a mix). but what's that about a company? there's no such thing as editorial companies who hire photographers to work for them fulltime

Aug 31 12 12:35 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Anna Adrielle wrote:

could you rephrase that question?

there are photographers on MM who do photography full time, yes. both editorial and commercial (usually a mix). but what's that about a company? there's no such thing as editorial companies who hire photographers to work for them fulltime

oh, o.k. I didn't know that.

Aug 31 12 12:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sekseeshotz
Posts: 331
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Anna Adrielle wrote:

could you rephrase that question?

there are photographers on MM who do photography full time, yes. both editorial and commercial (usually a mix). but what's that about a company? there's no such thing as editorial companies who hire photographers to work for them fulltime

rephrase??  How about make it a question.  I thought it was just another rambling statement of some kind.

Aug 31 12 12:47 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Eliza C
Posts: 7,869
Swansea, Wales, United Kingdom


Anna Adrielle wrote:
could you rephrase that question?

there are photographers on MM who do photography full time, yes. both editorial and commercial (usually a mix). but what's that about a company? there's no such thing as editorial companies who hire photographers to work for them fulltime

There are plenty of magazines and newspapers who employ photographers on the payroll. I don't know how many are here though. The ones I know aren't because they have since come to specialise in non modelling photography.

Aug 31 12 12:51 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Sekseeshotz wrote:

rephrase??  How about make it a question.  I thought it was just another rambling statement of some kind.

It is a question already.

Aug 31 12 12:53 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Eliza C wrote:
There are plenty of magazines and newspapers who employ photographers on the payroll.

oh,are any on MM that you know of?

* Sorry,I just noticed you edited your post to answer that...thanks.

Aug 31 12 12:55 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Anyone else?
Aug 31 12 02:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Alison D Friedman
Posts: 79
New York, New York, US


What sort of information are you looking for? I don't understand what exactly you are asking. I do know that a lot of photographers on MM are employed, either by a company or self employed.
Aug 31 12 04:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
T Brown
Posts: 1,615
Traverse City, Michigan, US


wtf...couldn't understand the question???
Aug 31 12 04:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 18,775
New York, New York, US


Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
employed photog.'s by a company as the photographer in the field editorial and/or commercial shoots,that are on MM?

I am self-employed, working full time in that field.

Aug 31 12 04:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Julian J Jones
Posts: 49
Little Rock, Arkansas, US


She's asking if there are any photographers on Model Mayhem that are field editorial or commercial photographers for a given company and who that might be,
i.e. commercial photographer for Macy's, Pier 59 Studios, JCPenney's, etc.

I would say yes and no,
-yes, that there are some and do list the company(s) or studios they work for
-no, that most of the others are commissioned to do work for said companies on a given project or for a limited time frame.
Aug 31 12 05:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-Koa-
Posts: 5,250
Castaner, Puerto Rico, US


I was a full time photographer for the United States Army in Hawaii.

Pay was $16 per hour with time and a half for over time, which was very often. C'mon' Army? I got tons of evening, weekend and holiday jobs which filled my pocket very well.

These jobs are very difficult to get.

-Koa-
www.borikenwarrior.com
www.facebook.com/borikenwarriorstudiosmodels
Aug 31 12 08:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Personalities of Jordan
Posts: 4
Houston, Texas, US


If I understand the question, not 100% that I do, then I would caution you that whether or not a photographer is employed full time as a photographer is not the right question to ask. I do not consider myself a "professional photographer" even though I have been employed full time as a photographer twice in my adult life. Once was for a portrait studio which I'm choosing not to name, but being a photographer there took no real skill and was so easy almost anyone could have done it. The other job was as a photographer but for a company, not a studio, and it was not in any way artistic. I shot photos of products the company sold for their advertising which is entirely different than shooting people. Photography is a lot more than shooting photos for Abercrombie or whoever. I think the majority of the photographers on this site are better and more experienced than I in the type of photography you're probably talking about even though I have been a full time paid photographer going back almost 16 years. I'm only bringing this up to explain that it's almost a pointless question to ask if anyone works full time as a photographer. That's really much too general of a question and probably does not solicit the answer you actually wanted.
Aug 31 12 08:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Personalities of Jordan wrote:
If I understand the question, not 100% that I do, then I would caution you that whether or not a photographer is employed full time as a photographer is not the right question to ask. I do not consider myself a "professional photographer" even though I have been employed full time as a photographer twice in my adult life. Once was for a portrait studio which I'm choosing not to name, but being a photographer there took no real skill and was so easy almost anyone could have done it. The other job was as a photographer but for a company, not a studio, and it was not in any way artistic. I shot photos of products the company sold for their advertising which is entirely different than shooting people. Photography is a lot more than shooting photos for Abercrombie or whoever. I think the majority of the photographers on this site are better and more experienced than I in the type of photography you're probably talking about even though I have been a full time paid photographer going back almost 16 years. I'm only bringing this up to explain that it's almost a pointless question to ask if anyone works full time as a photographer. That's really much too general of a question and probably does not solicit the answer you actually wanted.

Thanks.

Aug 31 12 11:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


-Koa- wrote:
I was a full time photographer for the United States Army in Hawaii.

Pay was $16 per hour with time and a half for over time, which was very often. C'mon' Army? I got tons of evening, weekend and holiday jobs which filled my pocket very well.

These jobs are very difficult to get.

-Koa-
www.borikenwarrior.com
www.facebook.com/borikenwarriorstudiosmodels

only $16.00 an hour,wow.

Aug 31 12 11:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Julian J Jones wrote:
She's asking if there are any photographers on Model Mayhem that are field editorial or commercial photographers for a given company and who that might be,
i.e. commercial photographer for Macy's, Pier 59 Studios, JCPenney's, etc.

I would say yes and no,
-yes, that there are some and do list the company(s) or studios they work for
-no, that most of the others are commissioned to do work for said companies on a given project or for a limited time frame.

1)Thank-you for your response and time. smile
2) Thank-you for explaining this to the responders that want to "play"...It just shows me something about them. hmm

Aug 31 12 11:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


udor wrote:

I am self-employed, working full time in that field.

How does that work,will be so kind and explain?  smile

Aug 31 12 11:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Barry Kidd Photography
Posts: 2,260
Red Lion, Pennsylvania, US


No
Sep 02 12 12:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,584
Palm Beach, Florida, US


Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
1)Thank-you for your response and time. smile
2) Thank-you for explaining this to the responders that want to "play"...It just shows me something about them. hmm

I think it means they are having a hard time understanding your question because it does not make much sense.

Sep 02 12 12:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RKD Photographic
Posts: 3,003
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


Photographer - professional - self-employed.
Press/sports, commercial, portrait and weddings.

Modelling pix as an antidote to all of the above.
Sep 02 12 03:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Zave Smith Photography
Posts: 1,264
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


There are a few full time paid in house gigs for photographers left around the country.  Some Universities for example, have a full time photographer on staff mainly for public relations photography. Getty Images employ's about 130 full time editorial photographers on a global bases.  There are also many catalog houses that hired full time shooters.  Some of these catalog houses are in-house at places like Urban Outfitters and some work for companies that provide catalog services for these same companies. I am guessing that most of these jobs pay between 24-60k a year.

The vast majority of photographers who are full time income earning shooters work for themselves. Most of these are in the portrait/wedding/event trade.  Some are in the editorial market, and some are in the commercial game.  Within all these arenas are plenty of subcategories, i.e, fashion, portraits, still life, etc.

I have no idea how many or what percentage of photographers on MM are full time shooters.

www.zavesmith.com
Sep 02 12 07:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 18,775
New York, New York, US


dp
Sep 02 12 09:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 18,775
New York, New York, US


udor wrote:
I am self-employed, working full time in that field.
Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
How does that work,will be so kind and explain?  smile

I am a freelance photographer.

To make a living, I have to get paid assignments from people and companies.

I shoot for designers, public relations companies, model portfolios, modeling agencies, news media outlets, magazines online and print.

I have to do my own marketing, but get most of my work from satisfied clients who refer me to others.

Some assignments may pay next to nothing, others thousands per day and others everything inbetween.

Sep 02 12 09:28 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


udor wrote:

udor wrote:
I am self-employed, working full time in that field.

I am a freelance photographer.

To make a living, I have to get paid assignments from people and companies.

I shoot for designers, public relations companies, model portfolios, modeling agencies, news media outlets, magazines online and print.

I have to do my own marketing, but get most of my work from satisfied clients who refer me to others.

Some assignments may pay next to nothing, others thousands per day and others everything inbetween.

Thanks,so you don't take part in hiring the models for the companies nor suggesting any models to them?

Sep 02 12 10:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,284
Olivet, Michigan, US


Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
Thanks,so you don't take part in hiring the models for the companies nor suggesting any models to them?

I can't speak for him specifically, but in general, it varies.

Broadly speaking, the bigger the project, the less likely the photographer makes those choices, since there would be a budget for separate people to do so.  And, the better the relationship / trust the company has with the photographer the more likely that the photographer has input.

Naturally, in cases where the photographer makes the choices, they are going to seek models who they know to have the right look, be reliable, and be drama free.

Sep 02 12 10:41 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marc Rosebeck
Posts: 2,281
Albany, New York, US


Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
employed photog.'s by a company as the photographer in the field editorial and/or commercial shoots,that are on MM?

why would you need to know this . If I were you and I'm not, I'd be more concerned with why you post these http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iw5TaUpM1OI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABg/oWjr6XtVW8o/s120-c/photo.jpg post day after day ?

Sep 02 12 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Susie B
Posts: 4,260
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US


I believe Marcus Klinko is on this website, if that counts.
Sep 02 12 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RKD Photographic
Posts: 3,003
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


Art of the nude wrote:
Naturally, in cases where the photographer makes the choices, they are going to seek models who they know to have the right look, be reliable, and be drama free.

...and usually (but not always) from established agencies...

Sep 02 12 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 18,775
New York, New York, US


Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:

Thanks,so you don't take part in hiring the models for the companies nor suggesting any models to them?

Not sure how you are coming to that conclusion!?

I am actively involved in casting models for fashion shows, magazines and many of the fashion editorial projects for designers unless the client takes care of the models.

Sep 02 12 11:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Karl Blessing
Posts: 30,809
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


udor wrote:
Not sure how you are coming to that conclusion!?

I am actively involved in casting models for fashion shows, magazines and many of the fashion editorial projects for designers unless the client takes care of the models.

Given the recent spat of threads, I think she's just trolling.

Sep 02 12 11:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 18,775
New York, New York, US


Karl Blessing wrote:

Given the recent spat of threads, I think she's just trolling.

Didn't see those.

I was wondering that a 40 years old woman didn't know what freelancing is, or how self-employment works.

I really was wondering if her next question would be what photographers eat for breakfast to prepare for a shoot...  smile

I guess I fell for it...

Sep 02 12 11:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Karl Blessing
Posts: 30,809
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


udor wrote:
Didn't see those.

I was wondering that a 40 years old woman didn't know what freelancing is, or how self-employment works.

I really was wondering if her next question would be what photographers eat for breakfast to prepare for a shoot...  smile

I guess I fell for it...

OR the thread she posted a couple months ago asking what trolls were. (most responses from her were identical)

Sep 02 12 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Sandra Vixen
Posts: 466
Los Angeles, California, US


I have worked with two photographers, one employed by National Geographic, another by Warner Brothers.
Sep 02 12 12:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
David Kilper
Posts: 234
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


I am a full time self employed photographer with enough work that I constantly have to hire people to satisfy work in my lap.  I specialize in produce, fashion, and architecture photography.  I can do more, but I've found that limiting my scope gets me more work.
Sep 02 12 01:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Marc Rosebeck wrote:
why would you need to know this . If I were you and I'm not, I'd be more concerned with why you post these http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iw5TaUpM1OI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABg/oWjr6XtVW8o/s120-c/photo.jpg post day after day ?

You seem to have a major problem,good luck getting help.

Sep 02 12 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Susie B wrote:
I believe Marcus Klinko is on this website, if that counts.

Thanks. smile

Sep 02 12 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Art of the nude wrote:

I can't speak for him specifically, but in general, it varies.

Broadly speaking, the bigger the project, the less likely the photographer makes those choices, since there would be a budget for separate people to do so.  And, the better the relationship / trust the company has with the photographer the more likely that the photographer has input.

Naturally, in cases where the photographer makes the choices, they are going to seek models who they know to have the right look, be reliable, and be drama free.

Thanks for the info.

Sep 02 12 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


udor wrote:

Not sure how you are coming to that conclusion!?

I am actively involved in casting models for fashion shows, magazines and many of the fashion editorial projects for designers unless the client takes care of the models.

O.k.,You just didn't mention you get involved is why I thought that you didn't nor do other photog.'s.

Sep 02 12 01:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Stormee
Posts: 2,463
San Antonio, Texas, US


Sandra Vixen wrote:
I have worked with two photographers, one employed by National Geographic, another by Warner Brothers.

Are they on MM?

Sep 02 12 01:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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