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Photographer
-krphoto-
Posts: 326
Sacramento, California, US


I know about photography, but very little about makeup. Surprise! big_smile

I'm wondering what the different looks are called, like if they have common names, so the mua knows what the heck we're talking about.

Is there some kind of visual reference source that shows various makeup styles?
Sep 13 12 03:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ColleenFowlerMUA
Posts: 107
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US


I find reference images to be really helpful--just some pictures of the type of look you're wanting to achieve. Really lets me connect with the idea of what is wanted, and I've found this to be the best way to communicate what is expected, and gives me an opportunity to go over anything I don't feel would work well ahead of time. If I'm not given example images, I'll usually throw together a folder of images, and go over them with a "so, do you have in mind something like....or maybe..." just to make sure that we're on the same page.

Neutral and natural are good terms to know, because they're actually very different. Natural is the "no makeup" look, where you can't really tell there's makeup. Neutral is keeping the tones in check. Most people mean neutral when they say natural.

"smokey eye" is something that you should probably avoid. Being told to do a smokey eye is akin to being told, basically, that you want eyeshadow.
Everyone has a different grasp on what it is, exactly. For some, it's very dark and dramatic, for other's it's a  little bit of eyeliner, ect.
Sep 13 12 07:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
EmElle Makeup and Hair
Posts: 5,013
San Jose, California, US


Yeah, don't forget that some of what you are going to run into area cultural norms.  The smokey eye here in American (in all its variations) is very different from the smokey eye done in India, which is rather specific.

So Google, get mags, SHOW the team what you want.  You can't simply describe, because it'll fail you 90% pf the time.
Sep 13 12 10:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,708
Washington, District of Columbia, US


-krphoto- wrote:
Is There A "Guide" to Makeup Looks?

There are few if any tomes that have launched more careers in make-up artistry than Kevyn Aucoin's FACE FORWARD and Making Faces...

as for naming looks?  some go by aesthetic others by period...  obtain copies of the aforementioned (cheap used) and you will take your knowledge base entirely to the next level...

So for about $6 in aggregate you can master the concepts and terminology... becoming proficient in MUA is another story...  like painting hundreds and hundreds of faces...

enjoy... it's what we do smile

Sep 14 12 07:08 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-krphoto-
Posts: 326
Sacramento, California, US


Awesome, thanks for the replies!

Cultural differences hadn't occurred to me, but I wanted to know if there was like some kind of "standard" terms for looks, but I guess it's very much like so many other arts... so subjective. So I do agree nothing beats showing images. Now, does every one agree what constitutes the "no-makeup" look?
Sep 14 12 11:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-krphoto-
Posts: 326
Sacramento, California, US


double post?
Sep 14 12 11:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DEREX Art
Posts: 233
Paterson, New Jersey, US


Kevin's books are terrific.

And before Kevin Aucoin, there was Way Bandy:

http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Your-Fa … 0394727584
Sep 14 12 11:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mickle Design Werks
Posts: 5,949
Washington, District of Columbia, US


I use Sue Bryce's Glamour Makeup For Natural Light Photography & Studio Guide

http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/714103/18714119.jpg

It's a basic guide but communicates the options well by reducing the choices to a manageable number of looks and helps in the planning of the shoot.

I also like it because the guide gives step-by-step instructions for creating the basic look for the Stylist or Model.

You can do the same thing if the guide doesn't work for you. There are a ton if Youtube videos that you can link to to provide guidance for the looks that you want.
Sep 14 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Thomas Van Dyke
Posts: 1,458
Washington, District of Columbia, US


-krphoto- wrote:
...what constitutes the "no-makeup" look?

typically referred to as "flawless clean beauty" look in the industry...

Ideally the hand of the artist should be invisible in the final look...

a stellar example is EmElle's avatar...

Oft associated with bridal make-up where the mission is to showcase a client's natural radiant beauty by skillfully subordinating perceived flaws through advanced techniques of concealing, contouring, highlighting etc. 

Emerging artist typically struggle to master clean beauty since even the slightest lack of competency is readily discernible... new artist will gravitate toward feathers, glitter, bold colors and over the top treatments in order to mask want of a refined skill set...

At the commercial level this is little if any demand for the theatrical type of treatment found at major runway events... albeit it does find favor in editorials which btw, have no client in the mix thus no recompense...

Look to seasoned bridal make-up artist for excellence in clean beauty...

Sep 14 12 03:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Makeup Artist
KJB
Posts: 1,183
New York, New York, US


DEREX Art wrote:
Kevin's books are terrific.

And before Kevin Aucoin, there was Way Bandy:

http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Your-Fa … 0394727584

Amen (I have the hardcover, it's a collector's item and I would NEVER sell it)

Sep 14 12 04:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
liddellphoto
Posts: 1,800
London, England, United Kingdom


I have persistent problems with this. Before I started using makeup artists I thought that seeing example images, clothes and the model the mua would be able to use their creativity, experience and judgement to come up with the fine detail on the makeup that would work best the shot and then execute it but this doesn't seem to be the case too often.

The main problem is that as a photographer I probably don't what what is best for a certain look for a particular model so even if I can communicate it perfectly (or give them a picture) and they execute a perfect copy it may not actually be what is best for the shot. It's the artist bit rather than just an applicator. It is much like I wouldn't tell the stylist exactly what pieces of clothing to pull, I would get a stylist not just to get clothes that I can't but to understand what I am going for and use their styling skill to help bring it to life or as a photographer no one ever says "shoot something exactly like this".

I either need to find an mua that can work this way or I need to develop the knowledge and skill to be able to give them the detail.
Sep 15 12 07:06 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,708
Washington, District of Columbia, US


The art and discipline of creative directing is a highly refined skill... you state in your profile "putting together a fashion portfolio" and the meta tag on your web portal indicates you are a "fashion photographer in London" 

Suggest working directly with clothing designers in as it as the potential to accelerate your emergence into this field... embrace the industry...  Designers oft employ a practice involving lifestyle branding which is derived from a unified look in how their collections are showcased. Successful designers produce style narratives that create genuine value for customers.  Your entire team needs to be in totally harmony with the designer's narrative... a storyboard truly helps to bring cohesion to the mix... keeping in mind that fashion is indeed social commentary... not be be confused with catalog which is entirely about product...

Have found having the designer and/or their art director on set to be of considerable merit... much of the "style" burden is then shared especially when shooting tethered and the AD is reviewing captures in real-time...  hair & make-up is dynamically adjusted as the session progresses to meet and exceed the AD's expectations... 

The aforementioned has been a standard methodology on many, many fashion session I've collaborated on... amazing how quickly this iterative process refines and polishes all styling to bring it into harmony with the designer's and AD's vision...

Collaborating with an experience team is a joy... suggest you nurture an enduring relationship with team members who share your visual statement... it is amazing how the aggregate synergy of a tenured team can take a session entirely to the next level...
Sep 15 12 04:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
EmElle Makeup and Hair
Posts: 5,013
San Jose, California, US


Thomas Van Dyke wrote:
a stellar example is EmElle's avatar...

I just saw this.  Thank you!

Sep 15 12 08:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Davis W
Posts: 1,272
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Im kinda shocked no one mentioned Francois Nars.
Sep 15 12 10:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
liddellphoto
Posts: 1,800
London, England, United Kingdom


Thanks, ArtistryImage.
Sep 16 12 02:35 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Dani Jaye
Posts: 319
Princeton, New Jersey, US


I'll throw my hat in the ring and say : Rae Morris has a few books but this one is my personal favorite.  Not even sure why but out of all the MU books I own (I have most all of the well knowns), this book in particular really "clicked" for me. 

http://www.amazon.com/Makeup-Ultimate-G … 1741752264

I bought it used from ebay so you may want to check there too for books.
Sep 16 12 08:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
-krphoto-
Posts: 326
Sacramento, California, US


Good info, everyone! Thanks.
Sep 17 12 01:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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