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Photographic Memory
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Kalamazoo, Michigan, US


I haven't seen anything thus far, so I was wondering what everyone else's opinions are. Personally, I'm not a fan of basketball. I find it boring. Football is OK, but I only really watch NCAA games (U of M fan here.) What I really love is hockey. It's fluid, it's graceful, it's violent, the scores are kept reasonable...and, I suppose being a Detroit native, the Red Wings are one of the few things I can be proud of from that city.

I ran across this article earlier today: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl--both- … ckout.html

Personally, I think the owners deserve more of the blame. If they're making record profits but want the players (without whom there would be no profits) to take pay cuts (while certainly not cutting their own pay...that gets to go up, of course), I find that to be bullshit. Now, if they agreed to take a pay cut, as did the owners, and passed along that money in the form of better wages from all the peons who get ignored but are nevertheless vital to the functioning of the arenas, I'd be cool with that. Hell, why not even make it cheaper for the fans? (and some franchises do need the increased attention.)

Anyway, what does everyone else think...or am I one of the few hockey fans here?
Sep 16 12 08:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Naughty Ties
Posts: 3,054
Riverview, Florida, US


Being a Pens fan I'll miss watching/following them but honestly with the baseball playoffs and World Series just around the corner, the college football season in high gear, the NFL (and my Steelers to root for) and basketball season starting hockey won't be missed a lick except for the hardcore fans. IMHO
Sep 16 12 10:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lieza Nova
Posts: 2,900
Seattle, Washington, US


Again?

Hockey's one of the few things that's good about winter and... also being a native Detroiter, I've often said things like "But... we do have the Red Wings..."

Guess I'm watching Superleague hockey online this year.
Sep 16 12 10:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photographic Memory
Posts: 108
Kalamazoo, Michigan, US


Yes, sadly, again. Two in less than a decade...that's great for the sport, isn't it? I'm sure most of America won't notice or care, but I certainly will. I view it as a far superior sport. Basketball bores me to tears, so that's no help to me. Hockey is more fun to watch all around, in my opinion. I guess I can watch Miracle a ton this year to make up for it?
Sep 17 12 02:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I am so upset...

Bwahahaha. Who am I kidding. lol
Sep 17 12 02:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lieza Nova
Posts: 2,900
Seattle, Washington, US


Calatelpe wrote:
Yes, sadly, again. Two in less than a decade...that's great for the sport, isn't it? I'm sure most of America won't notice or care, but I certainly will. I view it as a far superior sport. Basketball bores me to tears, so that's no help to me. Hockey is more fun to watch all around, in my opinion. I guess I can watch Miracle a ton this year to make up for it?

It pisses me off, in a lot of ways.  I mean... ALL of these people are making money hand over fist and they're going to stop the season, piss off the fans because they want MORE.

Striking multimillionaires... fuck that.

Superleague it is.

Sep 17 12 02:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rob Domaschuk
Posts: 5,715
Naperville, Illinois, US


The lockout is good news for Avalanche fans: if the season is cancelled they'll have a better record than last year
Sep 17 12 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Cherrystone
Posts: 35,977
Columbus, Ohio, US


I fooken hate Gary Bettman with a passion. Send the asshole back to the NBA.

GO WINGS......wherever you get around to playing again.
Sep 17 12 03:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Cherrystone
Posts: 35,977
Columbus, Ohio, US


Lieza Nova wrote:

It pisses me off, in a lot of ways.  I mean... ALL of these people are making money hand over fist and they're going to stop the season, piss off the fans because they want MORE.

Striking multimillionaires... fuck that.

Superleague it is.

It ain't a strike....the league is locking the players out. The NHLPA has bent over backwards and spread their cheeks to do most anything to keep the season alive......except cave again to the greedy bastards that want protection from their own wallet....but continue to find ways to get around the salary cap they said they wanted the last time.

Goodenow was right last time.

Sep 17 12 03:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lieza Nova
Posts: 2,900
Seattle, Washington, US


Cherrystone wrote:

It ain't a strike....the league is locking the players out. The NHLPA has bent over backwards and spread their cheeks to do most anything to keep the season alive......except cave again to the greedy bastards that want protection from their own wallet....but continue to find ways to get around the salary cap they said they wanted the last time.

Goodenow was right last time.

Okay, whining multimillionaires.

Same difference, when we're talking about the insane amounts of money these people earn.  Pissing off fans like this is going to lose them more revenue than they're arguing about.

There are a lot of alternatives out there.

Sep 17 12 03:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Scott
Posts: 5,592
Marion, Iowa, US


"NHL 2012 Lockout"

Sounds like the newest game from EA Sports. smile
Sep 17 12 03:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1,618
Los Angeles, California, US


Gary Bettman can suck it.

That's how I feel about that.
Sep 17 12 03:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photographic Memory
Posts: 108
Kalamazoo, Michigan, US


Cherrystone wrote:

It ain't a strike....the league is locking the players out. The NHLPA has bent over backwards and spread their cheeks to do most anything to keep the season alive......except cave again to the greedy bastards that want protection from their own wallet....but continue to find ways to get around the salary cap they said they wanted the last time.

Goodenow was right last time.

Exactly. The owners got everything they wanted last time. Profits are higher than they've ever been, but still demand pay cuts (except to themselves...a common tactic in the business world these days.) The players were even willing to keep playing while negotiations continued, but the billionaires wouldn't have any of that. The whole thing is a stupid power play when it comes right down to it, and while I think the players could perhaps do a better job making their case to the common fan, this is a problem started by the owners alone and designed to make the players look like they're the villains, screw the fans. At least I have the Grand Rapids Griffins still, for what they're worth.

Sep 17 12 04:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photographic Memory
Posts: 108
Kalamazoo, Michigan, US


David Scott wrote:
"NHL 2012 Lockout"

Sounds like the newest game from EA Sports. smile

I'm immediately reminded of this: http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/2 … p-power-up wink

Sep 17 12 04:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vintagevista
Posts: 10,567
Sun City, California, US


The new motto is "We are now more important than the Game itself. If we have to stomp the game into the mud, to get what we want - so be it."

I have no idea why people are still fans.  I turned my back on the NHL after they squandered the whole season away last time.

The owners got what they wanted last time - "Cost Certainty" 
The players finally caved and lost ground
Fans lost a whole season.
TODAY - Rinse and Repeat  (The only question, will be if there is any Hockey this year at all)

Just like baseball - I have not been to a baseball game since they squabbled and ruined a world series - (Bunch of millionaires and billionaires, that assume that fans will crawl back to them when it was settled.)  I know that's pretty much what happened - they had great attendance and all afterwards - but, my Angels tickets went to somebody else - I didn't have any use for them.  I turned my back on Baseball.

The really squalid thing today, is both sides are only giving the slightest lip service to the NFL fans - Cause they now assume that the fans will crawl back to them.

If the NHL owners and the players can't make record revenues work - Then disband the whole mess and liquidate the assets.  Start over with a new league.
Sep 17 12 04:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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KelliOnLineGlamourNude
Posts: 2,869
Barrie, Ontario, Canada


This is going to be the Leafs best season! sad
Sep 17 12 05:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
Posts: 31,672
Quebec, Quebec, Canada


KelliOnLineGlamourNude  wrote:
This is going to be the Leafs best season! sad

lol

sorry

but lol

Sep 17 12 05:11 pm  Link  Quote 
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Stephen Dawson
Posts: 29,246
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


They players should form a collective.

Pick teams like kids do.

Hire some guys to sign up arenas and TV stations.

Maybe make 1/3 of what they would in an NHL season, but they could pay the bills. Meanwhile the owners still have huge bills to pay.
Sep 17 12 05:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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Stephen Dawson
Posts: 29,246
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


KelliOnLineGlamourNude  wrote:
This is going to be the Leafs best season! sad

Since 1967, anyway. smile

Sep 17 12 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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KelliOnLineGlamourNude
Posts: 2,869
Barrie, Ontario, Canada


Stephen Dawson wrote:

Since 1967, anyway. smile

Best season in my lifetime. sad

Sep 17 12 05:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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KelliOnLineGlamourNude
Posts: 2,869
Barrie, Ontario, Canada


scrymettet wrote:

lol

sorry

but lol

forgiven!

Sep 17 12 05:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
Posts: 31,672
Quebec, Quebec, Canada


KelliOnLineGlamourNude  wrote:

forgiven!

*hugs*

Sep 17 12 05:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 17,849
Albany, New York, US


Probably just goes to show you how little outrage there is for an NHL work stoppage.

When MLB cancelled the World Series (1994), the fans went apeshit showing their disgust when play resumed the next Spring.

When the NHL cancelled an ENTIRE season (2004-2005), there was almost no reaction outside of the die-hards. Its like that old line, "If a tree falls down in the woods, does it still make a noise?" I'm afraid w/ Don Fehr (formerly the MLBPA rep) as their NHLPA rep w/ the owners, I have a feeling this'll be another lost season. sad
Sep 17 12 05:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1,618
Los Angeles, California, US


KelliOnLineGlamourNude  wrote:
This is going to be the Leafs best season! sad

lol

Sep 17 12 06:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Cherrystone
Posts: 35,977
Columbus, Ohio, US


Stephen Dawson wrote:
Since 1967, anyway. smile
KelliOnLineGlamourNude  wrote:
Best season in my lifetime. sad

Looking darn good for your age Kelli. I didn't know you could remember 1967.

I sure do, last time my "boy" won a Cup before he died. sad

Sep 18 12 10:07 am  Link  Quote 
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