ShivaKitty wrote:

I actually think the reverse it true. As years have gone by, and I've gotten older, I've gotten MORE requests for hard content.

I think the general mentality is that women over 25 or 27 start getting "desperate" for work, and are more likely to shoot explicit material. Obviously, I don't think age has anything to do with what we choose to shoot, one way or another, but I did notice that when the rates I could get for basic girly-erotic work started to decline (when I was about 28 or so), the offers for hard content started to increase, on other sites, around that same time.

Never would have guessed this.

MilliNY wrote:

ever hear of ambien?

No...but obviously you are familiar with it.

1873 Images wrote:
I don't think I stated that I strongly believe newbies leave the site because of this.

Really?

Re-read your OP:

1873 Images wrote:
I suspect that many of them leave MM quickly becuase they conclude that is what MM is all about.

Sounds like you said it.

1873 Images wrote:
Newbies leaving was the seed crystal that got me wondering if this was a frequent occurrence.  Everyone was a newbie once and would have experience (possibly) with getting inappropriate offers.

No one knows definitively why newbies leave the site. Many of us suspect that they leave primarily because they are just not serious enough about modeling, and didn't know how hard it was...but that is as speculative as your theory.

Models rarely let it be known why they are leaving. They just leave.

Honestly, I'm not sure why you would directly equate models leaving with inappropriate offers.

Shawn Meadows wrote:
I wouldn't say it was "bad." It was plentiful. I had tons of porn offers within a few days of putting up my profile. Plenty of money offered. All you have to do is say, "no thanks." After it got to be annoying to reject offers every day, putting a simple disclaimer in my bio about not being interested in adult work, it stopped immediately...can't say that about the scams though. They're he bigger problem.

You shouldn't be receiving *any* offers for adult work on Model Mayhem.  This is not permitted.  To report the offender, visit http://www.ripoffreport.com

Image K wrote:
Honestly, I'm not sure why you would directly equate models leaving with inappropriate offers.

The question is how big a problem is this?  Read the last sentence of the OP.

Jordan Bunniie wrote:
Yes. Its pretty common on this site. Youre a new female model, you will get 100s of offers for porn, webcams, escort services, hell even screwing the emailer for $ cos thats all they think of models on here. That dies down but never stops entirely.

This.

twoharts wrote:
can't you CAM these folks and get them kicked off? or do they just pop up under a new name? kind of like whack-a-mole. just seems like you shouldn't be able to cast here for things that aren't allowed here.

These guys target new profiles - members that might not yet have found out that you even can CAM messages/other members or might not know what is considered a CAMable offense.

Babalon Salome wrote:
These guys target new profiles - members that might not yet have found out that you even can CAM messages/other members or might not know what is considered a CAMable offense.

Rollo David Snook wrote:
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An agency would be in consternation about this story, if one of their models turned down a paid job by refusing to wear the outfit and then simply ignored the client.

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If you're paying agency rates, I'd be as annoyed as you!

Also... remember this is MM.

Rollo David Snook wrote:
If anything, I find it's models not willing to shoot nudes that are disappearing on me.

After talking shop with someone over a few days, I offered a paid job to them, wearing leggings and a vest top and I got back a pm asking me if it was ok to wear denim hotpants and a T-shirt. She presumably didn't feel comfortable wearing leggings. I wrote back explaining why denim hotpants would not work and then the trail went dead. Wasn't even swimwear or lingerie, only bare arms, but this was beyond her level. I try to be understanding, but I'm sitting here thinking "not model".

An agency would be in consternation about this story, if one of their models turned down a paid job by refusing to wear the outfit and then simply ignored the client. But this is MM, where you can do one thing, say another, post another entirely.

Probably yes, a lot of models are getting offers for erotic and adult work and it disgusts them. Also people seem to be ramming the point home that nude is a moneymaker.

Agreed.

1873 Images wrote:

I am lead to believe that this problem is rampant.  I would like to validate that with evidence from models who have or have not experineced this personally.

When I first joined MM a few years ago I received a slew of offers for work that, at the time, I didn't do (nudes) and work that I would never consider even still (porn, webcam gigs, escorts etc.)
I didn't let that bother me though. I was determined to get my modeling career started and either politely declined those who were genuinely kind and curious as to what I'd be willing to do, and simply ignored the ones who were blatantly offering me something not good, legally or to my own moral standard.

Neil Snape wrote:
Why doesn't MM have a little follow up or survey for when people want to leave?

Many places do, that way they can improve their positioning with current and future members.

For me, I'd like to know if when I started years ago on MM if it was as frequent as today?

It harms all of us, to have people come and go so fast, and if it is because the inundation of porn type requests that is something that has to be reviewed.

Good idea!

Neil Snape wrote:
Why doesn't MM have a little follow up or survey for when people want to leave?

Amber Tench wrote:
I must be doing something wrong here then, because I never get offers for adult/porn/erotic/webcam/etc/etc work of any kind.
(Other than art nudes, which... I shoot, so that is kind of expected)

twoharts wrote:
if it makes you feel any better i'd definitely cast you to be in my porn movie! if i made porn movies which i don't.

i wonder why some girls get so many requests and you don't? maybe it's something about their age/profile that makes them seem like easy targets. or their location.

Yay, porn!

I'm thinking new models are the easiest to target, because they are so flattered by getting offers of work, they are probably far easier to coerce them into accepting it.
Luckily for me, I was underage when I first signed up here, so... I guess I got lucky in avoiding all that

_Rei_ wrote:
I get offered two kinds of work here. The kind I'm interested in doing, and the kind I'm not. When I signed up to MM, I didn't expect that every offer that came my way would interest me and that I'd have to spend at least some of my time here saying "No" politely.

I do get offers of work that goes beyond the limits of what I'm willing to shoot. They're usually no more or less polite than anyone else messaging me here. A long time ago I learnt to use a template of sorts to save time - something like, "Dear X, Thank you for your interest but I'm not currently shooting that genre of work blah blah blah." I've never had anyone get nasty in response to this (yet).

I've not found MM to be any worse for this kind of thing than any other modelling portfolio site. Learning how to turn down work you don't want is a part of freelancing - the people that get freaked out by this and pull their profiles quickly probably aren't cut out for it.

+1

Amber Tench wrote:
I'm thinking new models are the easiest to target, because they are so flattered by getting offers of work, they are probably far easier to coerce them into accepting it.

Park Avenue Pin-ups wrote:
The question is how big a problem is this?  Read the last sentence of the OP.

Read my previous posts.

Since no one knows definitively why people leave, assuming why someone is leaving is assuming facts not in evidence.

A very small percentage of members participate in the Forums. This thread will provide very little (if any) evidence regarding "how big a problem this is".

Kelleth wrote:
I've definitely gotten weird offers on this site but never enough to scare me away!

I would think that most models that are serious about modeling react that way.

It's unfortunate that newbies (or anyone else, for that matter) get "inappropriate offers", but they do actually serve a purpose: They weed out the pretenders.

Image K wrote:

Read my previous posts.

Since no one knows definitively why people leave, assuming why someone is leaving is assuming facts not in evidence.

A very small percentage of members participate in the Forums. This thread will provide very little (if any) evidence regarding "how big a problem this is".

You should read the OP, the question posed isn't why people leave it's how big a problem are inappropriate offers.

Shaz111 wrote:
I'm sure every single model on MM gets offers for porn etc when they sign up, just don't understand why you would pull your profile over it, just say no/yes or don't respond and move on...

Well there are several who do, they may not say so on MM but they do.  Another reason why some folks ignore the nudity flag on profiles.  I know I have seen a few playboy models here with no nudes selected in their profile and others have commented about it.  I recall in a thread someone mentioned several names of models who also shoot porn under a different name.  The thread was locked and removed obviously but it was growing fast at the time...

C Nox wrote:
This.
Just don't let it get to you, CAM the spammers, and hang in there. You'll be okay, and will give you a real insight on how to weed out the creepers.

Thanks. Newbie here and I've read this entire thread.  Great information here on an interesting topic.

twoharts wrote:
blizzard does this for their world of warcraft game. when you stop paying on your monthly description they ask why.

if good models are leaving because they get inundated with porn offers then i think that's something mayhem should be concerned about.

From the feedback I have received, only a small percentage actually "leave" (as in close their account).  Many more just abandon their account so they remain classed as active members even though they have no intention of ever logging in again.  Given that MM seems to consider anyone logging in even once within the past five years to be an "active account", I'm not sure they view any of this as a problem.

For legitimate photographers, though, it is a very real problem.  Several models have told me they were sufficiently inundated with "inappropriate offers" at the outset that they simply became suspicious of any approach from any photographer.

D-Light wrote:
I think there's many new 'models' here who just want to be able to say that they are models. Having a profile on MM or a similar site allows them to tell their friends that they're part time models and maybe even impress a few guys.

When they start getting mails about work they panic and pull their profile. Most of them never intended posing or even discussing a shoot.

I was on another site and about 50% of model profiles had no pics and no personal details, it's not like that here at least.

+1

I get inappropriate offers fairly regularly. They want things clearly against the rules(yes, I report them) or they want to do things I would not be willing to do like open leg shots. I guess my profile is not clear enough or they just don't care. I don't take it personal.

1873 Images wrote:
You should read the OP, the question posed isn't why people leave it's how big a problem are inappropriate offers.

How would this thread answer that question, and what would constitute "a problem"?

Highwaymen Studios wrote:
The problem may not be MM.  It could be a new model decides to create a profile indicating he/she will shoot nude and her husband/boyfriend, father, or boss catches wind of it and demands the profile be shut down or her coworkers, classmates, or brother's pervy friends find it and pester her so much she closes it to shut them up.  I've noticed a few people start a profile and then shut it down almost as quick...but I never assumed it was MM.  I just didn't know their life story.

I agree with you...but the OP suspects differently.

Isis22 wrote:
I get inappropriate offers fairly regularly. They want things clearly against the rules(yes, I report them) or they want to do things I would not be willing to do like open leg shots. I guess my profile is not clear enough or they just don't care. I don't take it personal.

This is an answers to the question, it is a faily regular occurence for you.  Thanks

Image K wrote:
How would this thread answer that question, and what would constitute "a problem"?

If a number of models state it is a regular-ongoing occurence. 

I get that this isn't a scientific poll with a representative sample, and one could not conclude what percentage of the subset of models that participate in the forums have experienced this.   However, it does provide some insight into the issue and answers my curiosity.