"When asked about the problems he believed that America faced on the brink of the Sixties, he told his dinner guests: 'I think, all the problems, war, the destruction of the United States and the world, every problem, urban problems, agricultural, they’re all . . . monetary, fiscal, labor-management, inflation."
I think Kennedy knew more than he was given credit for and if running today he would most likely be a Libertarian.
"When asked about the problems he believed that America faced on the brink of the Sixties, he told his dinner guests: 'I think, all the problems, war, the destruction of the United States and the world, every problem, urban problems, agricultural, they’re all . . . monetary, fiscal, labor-management, inflation."
I think Kennedy knew more than he was given credit for and if running today he would most likely be a Libertarian.
GK photo
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Let There Be Light wrote: That's because they're not plagiarists.
you DO know that ted sorensen wrote that line, right (even though he tried to blithely give credit to kennedy)? not that reading speeches from your own speech writer would be considered plagiarism.
Smedley Whiplash wrote: Not true. We're asking millionaires to do more for their country.
But with Mitt, it's "ask not millionaires to do more for their country!"
today's millionaires have a true sense of entitlement.
they earned every cent, on their own, without anyone's help.
and they resent anyone asking for one cent of it in taxes.
while that actually is not true,
the majority of millionaires are actually willing to pay more in taxes, that is the belief of the ones funding the entire GOP, so that is the reality of the position the GOP takes.
[ http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/27/ … -the-rich/ A new survey from Spectrem Group found that 68% of millionaires (those with investments of $1 million or more) support raising taxes on those with $1 million or more in income. ]
GK photo wrote: i will go to my grave saying that if nixon was elected in '60, the us and ussr would have had all out nuclear war by the summer of '62.
khrushchev and kennedy saved the world. that shit is true.
GK photo
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figurativearts wrote: and kennedy paid the price for that.
he paid the price primarily due to his dealings with regards to cuba; but the leftover ike hawks were definitely facilitators in his demise. they wanted him out, and had complicit ears in langley. i don't wear tin foil hats, but that was as close to a coupe as we've ever come.
and no, i don't believe there were other gunmen in dealey plaza. oswald pulled the trigger that killed kennedy. but alas, he was a patsy, just as he claimed.
Actually what you just said is bizarre in the extreme. Since when do conservatives even believe in the greater good, let alone serve it?
It's bizarre to you because perhaps you don't understand the the difference between liberal and conservative thinking:
Conservatives: we prefer to produce more ourselves, and ask less of others
Liberals: they prefer to produce less, and ask more of others
Conservatives: Save for the future (live within one's means)
Liberals: Spend now, worry about the future later (someone will bail you out)
Conservatives: we can get better schools if we can get teachers to teach better, and we can measure the results
Liberals: we can get better schools if we pay teachers more and don't allow results to be measured
etc.
I think the conservative approach yields more for the better good.
Lightcraft Studio wrote: I think the conservative approach yields more for the better good.
If the world matched to that perspective. But it doesn't.
Both paths, and a million paths in between, are designed for the same goal: to improve the human condition. There's just different directions on how to get there. But they all aspire to enduring production, general welfare, and long-term benefit.
Lightcraft Studio wrote: It's bizarre to you because perhaps you don't understand the the difference between liberal and conservative thinking:
Conservatives: we prefer to produce more ourselves, and ask less of others
Liberals: they prefer to produce less, and ask more of others
Conservatives: Save for the future (live within one's means)
Liberals: Spend now, worry about the future later (someone will bail you out)
Conservatives: we can get better schools if we can get teachers to teach better, and we can measure the results
Liberals: we can get better schools if we pay teachers more and don't allow results to be measured
etc.
I think the conservative approach yields more for the better good.
sounds like your views are informed by the AM radio prejudices of Hannity and Rush.
you should study some real conservatives, and stop parroting the fake AM radio blowhards.
"Buckley and his editors used his magazine to define the boundaries of conservatism—and to exclude people or ideas or groups they considered unworthy of the conservative title. Therefore he denounced Ayn Rand, the John Birch Society, George Wallace, racists, white supremacists (starting in the 1960s), and anti-Semites."
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Lightcraft Studio wrote: It's bizarre to you because perhaps you don't understand the the difference between liberal and conservative thinking:
Conservatives: we prefer to produce more ourselves, and ask less of others
Liberals: they prefer to produce less, and ask more of others
Conservatives: Save for the future (live within one's means)
Liberals: Spend now, worry about the future later (someone will bail you out)
Conservatives: we can get better schools if we can get teachers to teach better, and we can measure the results
Liberals: we can get better schools if we pay teachers more and don't allow results to be measured
etc.
I think the conservative approach yields more for the better good.
i don't even have a logical retort to this, for there seems to be no logic in the original thought.
so...no liberals save? there are no conservative who live above their means? what exactly are you saying here?
are these philosophies, or adjunct elements of some pseudo-anecdotal brain spillage?
it's late...i'm out. i'm sure i sound like i'm attacking. this was just an amusing post.
Lightcraft Studio wrote: Conservatives: Save for the future (live within one's means)
Liberals: Spend now, worry about the future later (someone will bail you out)
Lightcraft Studio wrote: I'm talking about principles that the voters want, not what the politicians deliver.
If you don't like what Reagan and Cheney want to deliver, maybe you should start voting for the fiscally responsible instead. They're the ones with the (D) after their names.
NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: If you don't like what Reagan and Cheney want to deliver, maybe you should start voting for the fiscally responsible instead. They're the ones with the (D) after their names.
Thanks! I needed a good laugh... that did the trick.
AdelaideJohn1967
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GK photo wrote:
he paid the price primarily due to his dealings with regards to cuba; but the leftover ike hawks were definitely facilitators in his demise. they wanted him out, and had complicit ears in langley. i don't wear tin foil hats, but that was as close to a coupe as we've ever come.
and no, i don't believe there were other gunmen in dealey plaza. oswald pulled the trigger that killed kennedy. but alas, he was a patsy, just as he claimed.
But wasn't he shot from the front as well as the back? How could Oswald have done that?
GK photo
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AdelaideJohn1967 wrote: But wasn't he shot from the front as well as the back? How could Oswald have done that?
no. the zapruder film shows a wound coming from behind. it just appears to be coming from the front, due to the nature of the ballistics. you are witnessing and exit wound.
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Actually what you just said is bizarre in the extreme. Since when do conservatives even believe in the greater good, let alone serve it?
Lightcraft Studio wrote: It's bizarre to you because perhaps you don't understand the the difference between liberal and conservative thinking:
Conservatives: we prefer to produce more ourselves, and ask less of others
Liberals: they prefer to produce less, and ask more of others
Conservatives: Save for the future (live within one's means)
Liberals: Spend now, worry about the future later (someone will bail you out)
Conservatives: we can get better schools if we can get teachers to teach better, and we can measure the results
Liberals: we can get better schools if we pay teachers more and don't allow results to be measured
etc.
I think the conservative approach yields more for the better good.
you should save yourself a lot of typing and simply insert a rush limbaugh show link.
GK photo wrote: he paid the price primarily due to his dealings with regards to cuba; but the leftover ike hawks were definitely facilitators in his demise. they wanted him out, and had complicit ears in langley. i don't wear tin foil hats, but that was as close to a coupe as we've ever come.
and no, i don't believe there were other gunmen in dealey plaza. oswald pulled the trigger that killed kennedy. but alas, he was a patsy, just as he claimed.
"Any prosecutor can convict a guilty man; it takes a great prosecutor to convict an innocent man."
-Dallas DA Henry Wade
"As district attorney of Dallas for an unprecedented 36 years, Henry Wade was the embodiment of Texas justice. Nineteen convictions — three for murder and the rest involving rape or burglary — won by Wade and two successors who trained under him have been overturned after DNA evidence exonerated the defendants. About 250 more cases are under review. No other county in America — and almost no state, for that matter — has freed more innocent people from prison in recent years than Dallas County, where Wade was DA from 1951 through 1986. John Stickels, a University of Texas at Arlington criminology professor and a director of the Innocence Project of Texas, blames a culture of 'win at all costs.' 'When someone was arrested, it was assumed they were guilty,' he said. 'I think prosecutors and investigators basically ignored all evidence to the contrary and decided they were going to convict these guys.' In his last 20 years as district attorney, his office won 165,000 convictions, the Dallas Morning News reported when he retired. In the 1960s, Wade secured a murder conviction against Ruby, the Dallas nightclub owner who shot Lee Harvey Oswald after Oswald's arrest in the assassination of President Kennedy. Ruby's conviction was overturned on appeal, and he died before Wade could retry him."
-MSNBC, "After Dallas DA’s death 19 convictions undone," 7/29/2008
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25917791/ns … ns-undone/
"I didn't shoot nobody no Sir! I'm just a patsy!"
-Lee Harvey Oswald, shot and killed by a jewish mobster inside the same Dallas Police Dept that President JFK Sr was shot and killed in front of
"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. We must never forget that art is not a form of propaganda; it is a form of Truth. The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. I will smash the CIA into a thousand pieces -- DOH!"
-John F. Kennedy Sr.
"When asked about the problems he believed that America faced on the brink of the Sixties, he told his dinner guests: 'I think, all the problems, war, the destruction of the United States and the world, every problem, urban problems, agricultural, they’re all . . . monetary, fiscal, labor-management, inflation."
I think Kennedy knew more than he was given credit for and if running today he would most likely be a Libertarian.
Every US president was shot who opposed a private foreign central bank counterfeiting all "US dollars" then loaning it at interest to the fed govt, then stealing all incoem tax as interest on the debt. With the exception of General Andrew Jackson, who survived a dozen bullet holes on various occasions.
JFK was reinstating US Treasury Notes (US dollars) to replace private "Federal" reserve Bank notes (toilet paper) owned by the German Nazi queen of England ("Queen of Babylon at Bohemian Grove). The British monarchy burned down the White House in the War of 1812, and it re-annexed USA via SPP.gov merger of USA, British Canada and Mexico. We are Her Majesty's buttmonkey.
Viking Models
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GK photo wrote:
no. the zapruder film shows a wound coming from behind. it just appears to be coming from the front, due to the nature of the ballistics. you are witnessing and exit wound.
It just "appears" that the IRS is making you pay taxes. It's really voluntary.
GK photo wrote: no. the zapruder film shows a wound coming from behind. it just appears to be coming from the front, due to the nature of the ballistics. you are witnessing and exit wound.
Kevin 66 Photography wrote: It just "appears" that the IRS is making you pay taxes. It's really voluntary.
It is voluntary, it's just that there are penalties for not volunteering.
Viking Models
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Huntington Beach, California, US
OMarkcompa wrote:
GK photo wrote: no. the zapruder film shows a wound coming from behind. it just appears to be coming from the front, due to the nature of the ballistics. you are witnessing and exit wound.
It is voluntary, it's just that there are penalties for not volunteering.
Let There Be Light wrote: That's because they're not plagiarists.
GK photo wrote: you DO know that ted sorensen wrote that line, right (even though he tried to blithely give credit to kennedy)? not that reading speeches from your own speech writer would be considered plagiarism.
JFK and his classmates all heard, "The youth who loves his alma mater will always ask not what she can do for me, but what can I do for her" in a speech given to them by their headmaster George St. John.
JFK heard that long, long before he met Ted Sorensen.
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