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Ed Woodson Photography
Posts: 2,644
Savannah, Georgia, US


What I really love about MM Forums.....

At least one, really awesome, pissing contest turns up each weekend.

This weekend does not dissappoint.  smile
Oct 07 12 07:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
rp_photo
Posts: 42,488
Houston, Texas, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

I tend to be turned off by photographers who are heavily into a single theme such as:

All males

All one race

All a similar body type or look

All bridal gowns or other outfit type

All with the same props

All in similar locations

etc.

Oct 07 12 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Westdahl Studio
Posts: 331
Seattle, Washington, US


Isis22 wrote:
Yes, it's just you;)

You are a DOLL!

Oct 07 12 07:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NewBoldPhoto
Posts: 4,894
PORT MURRAY, New Jersey, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

Regarding your query, I find myself both ignorant and apathetic. I am however fascinated by it. If I may ask, what were you thinking when you posted it?

Oct 07 12 07:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art Silva
Posts: 8,878
Santa Barbara, California, US


hasn't anyone cleaned up this train wreck yet?
Oct 07 12 11:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
afplcc
Posts: 5,971
Fairfax, Virginia, US


Robert Lynch wrote:

You're repeating yourself.

Overseas, you're absolutely correct that all of that is often part of the same package.  Domestically here in the States?  ....not so many earthquakes are part of campaigns.

Ed

Oct 08 12 03:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Amadea T
Posts: 3,306
Columbus, Ohio, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

I sincerely get offended when people tell me they DON'T want to shoot me nude. Seriously! To the point of throwing cats!

Oct 08 12 03:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Eurocat wrote:

I sincerely get offended when people tell me they DON'T want to shoot me nude. Seriously! To the point of throwing cats!

I charge people if they want to shoot me clothed.

Oct 08 12 03:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Amadea T
Posts: 3,306
Columbus, Ohio, US


I knew I was doing something wrong!
Oct 08 12 03:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Top Level Studio
Posts: 3,232
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


P I X I E wrote:

I charge people if they want to shoot me clothed.

You'll never need to charge me!

Oct 08 12 03:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 21,706
New York, New York, US


Eurocat wrote:

I sincerely get offended when people tell me they DON'T want to shoot me nude. Seriously! To the point of throwing cats!

*caugh... caugh*

I . d o . n o t . w a n t . t o . s h o o t . n u d e s . . .


*ducking and running away*   tongue

Oct 08 12 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Eurocat wrote:
I knew I was doing something wrong!

Some of them call me names... Pfft. But the reality is that carrying outfits on public transit is such a pain in the ass, like making sure it doesn't get wrinkled, and carrying suitcases also. I don't mind lingerie since it doesn't take up too much space and isn't heavy, and doesn't really get super wrinkled. But anything more than lingerie, sorry, but no TF. I also hate having photographers asking me to buy very specific things, like high quality stockings, for TF. Dude, these things aren't cheap, I'm not rich. hmm

Oct 08 12 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 21,706
New York, New York, US


P I X I E wrote:

I charge people if they want to shoot me clothed.

I charge extra for sex! smile

Oct 08 12 03:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


udor wrote:

I charge extra for sex! smile

tongue

I just don't like shooting in clothes. Unless you're a very well-known photographer. But as a nude model, it's just kind of meh. I don't really need clothed shots right now. I already have too many as a nude model...

Oct 08 12 03:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dannielle Levan
Posts: 12,857
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

Oh, those terrible perverts, how dare they. LOL

Oct 08 12 03:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


Garry k wrote:
hmmm ....thats not what i recall you previously saying

you have been challenged on this before and i recall you saying that you didnt want to be labelled an "ethnic" photographer within the industry ( whatever the fuck that means ) which seems to me that its a bit more than your personal tastes regarding  the matter

If you bother to read the post you quoted you will see that the example I use is whether I shoot males or not and is nothing to do with race.

Looks to me like you've got a bit ahead of yourself here Garry smile



Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Oct 08 12 04:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FiveOne November
Posts: 169
Rochester, New York, US


Eurocat wrote:

I sincerely get offended when people tell me they DON'T want to shoot me nude. Seriously! To the point of throwing cats!

Ha! Thanks for the laugh! I'd love to shoot you nude, Eurocat!

I actually have nudes posted in my port, but I have offered TF to models in the area who are new and want to work on their portfolio, because I want to add non-nude work to mine.

I've made it CLEAR that I want to shoot what THEY want, not nudes, as most of their profiles say they don't do nudes.  I've even gotten specific to say I'll shoot fashion, head shots, editorial or lifestyle for them...whatever they'd like.  Apparently the nudes in my portfolio turn them off because I don't get replies from most models who want TF.  I thought maybe, at least, I'd get a "thanks but no thanks" response, but the silence is deafening.

My .02

- Joe

Oct 09 12 04:41 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1,618
Los Angeles, California, US


Some photographers who only shoot nudes are some of the best ive ever seen.

It doesnt bother me. I'll never get why people let what others do bother them so much.
Oct 09 12 12:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,431
Salinas, California, US


Erika Muse wrote:
I think nudes can be very artistic depending on the context. And when i become established i plan on doing some. So let me be specific, it's when a photographer claims to shoot many genres but his or her portfolio contains strictly nudes. Its the lack of diversity that is a turn off to me. But I am only sharing my thoughts and opinions. We are all adults here, there is no reason to get defensive.

I don't think this really has to do with nudity so much as it does with diversity.  With all portfolios in general a "lack of diversity" may turn off a lot of models to working with those photographers.  However, many photographers and models are just starting out, and that might cause a lack of diversity.  As for a portfolio filled with nudes only, most models and photographers don't just dive into shooting nudes without having experience with other genres ... but I suppose it could happen. 

I shoot nudes, but it is not at the forefront of my portfolio. The models I choose to work with are not always very experienced, or show a lot of diversity in their portfolio.  It is always fun for me to discover a new model who is great to work with, but just needs some help to improve their portfolio.  My own portfolio can always use improvement.  The day that I don't try to be better than my last photo session is the day I may as well put the camera down.  I am a diverse photographer who loves shooting with open minded models who will at least strive for diversity in their own portfolios.  Nudity or not, it should not matter.  Work with those who turn you on!

Oct 09 12 02:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Amadea T
Posts: 3,306
Columbus, Ohio, US


Patrick Walberg wrote:
As for a portfolio filled with nudes only, most llamas and photographers don't just dive into shooting nudes without having experience with other genres ...

..beg to differ. smile

On a sidenote, the post was about nudity, not diversity.
I can have a very diverse folio, without ever being clothed. But that's just mho.

Oct 09 12 02:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Eurocat wrote:

..beg to differ. smile

On a sidenote, the post was about nudity, not diversity.
I can have a very diverse folio, without ever being clothed. But that's just mho.

+1

I started shooting nudes less than 6 months after I started modeling.

Oct 09 12 02:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,431
Salinas, California, US


Eurocat wrote:
..beg to differ. smile

On a sidenote, the post was about nudity, not diversity.
I can have a very diverse folio, without ever being clothed. But that's just mho.

You left out that I said "but I suppose it could happen!"   AND that I said "most" photographers and models!   There are exceptions to every subjective rule, so I must say that you are exceptional!

Also this is a direct quote from the quote I was commenting on; 

Erika Muse wrote:
Its the lack of diversity that is a turn off to me.  But I am only sharing my thoughts and opinions.

Oct 09 12 02:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I know lots of models that did nudes very early on. Not sure why you think it doesn't happen that often.
Oct 09 12 02:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FiveOne November
Posts: 169
Rochester, New York, US


P I X I E wrote:
I know lots of models that did nudes very early on. Not sure why you think it doesn't happen that often.

Heck, I posed nude when I was first getting started in photography as a photographer!  I did it to help out another photographer who want to shoot male nudes.  It's been a long time.

Oct 09 12 02:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,431
Salinas, California, US


P I X I E wrote:
+1

I started shooting nudes less than 6 months after I started modeling.
P I X I E wrote:
I know lots of models that did nudes very early on. Not sure why you think it doesn't happen that often.

You are most certainly exceptional as well!  Like I said ... not every model will dive into modeling nude, but some do.  As a student, I shot my first nudes in a very spontaneous situation where she and I were hiking in Big Sur and came upon a waterfall.  She disrobed and entered the waterfall while I shot some images that we were both very proud of.  It has been a long time ago, but I think that was longer than 6 months after I had picked up a 35 mm camera though.  It doesn't really matter, since I shoot nudes anyway.

Oct 09 12 02:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,780
Olivet, Michigan, US


Patrick Walberg wrote:
I don't think this really has to do with nudity so much as it does with diversity.  With all portfolios in general a "lack of diversity" may turn off a lot of models to working with those photographers.  However, many photographers and models are just starting out, and that might cause a lack of diversity.  As for a portfolio filled with nudes only, most models and photographers don't just dive into shooting nudes without having experience with other genres ... but I suppose it could happen.

I've shot "first time nude" with about 30 miles.  Something like half had never done a "professional" photoshoot before, or at most 2-3.  Very few, maybe none, were highly experienced in other genres.  Some had posed for a friend, or boyfriend, or some situation, so it wasn't totally new.  Others it was.

Oct 09 12 09:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,431
Salinas, California, US


Art of the nude wrote:
I've shot "first time nude" with about 30 miles.  Something like half had never done a "professional" photoshoot before, or at most 2-3.  Very few, maybe none, were highly experienced in other genres.  Some had posed for a friend, or boyfriend, or some situation, so it wasn't totally new.  Others it was.

I understand what you are saying, but that has not been my experience.  If I'm going to shoot nudes, I like to know that the model has already done nudes, and will have no problem with it.  As you can tell, I don't shoot nudes all that often, especially in comparison to you.  I would think that a "first timer" with you is ready to shoot with you after seeing your portfolio, and they know they are going to pose nude.  Where as I shoot minors sometimes and most of my images are with clothed models.   I want to show a great deal of diversity in my portfolio.   

The OP asked about our opinions on photographer portfolios as in if she was the only one turned off by portfolios filled with only nudes.  I am not turned off by portfolios that are filled with nudes. Then on the first page, she modified her message a bit in explaining that she looked at a portfolio with nothing but nudes as not showing diversity.  I've seen plenty of photographers portfolios with a unique style focused on one genera of modeling images.  It does not bother me, and I actually see certain advantages to doing that.  People who come to you know exactly what they are getting.  I'm just not about doing the same genera the majority of time.  We are all free to do what we want with our portfolios.

Oct 09 12 10:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
QuietAsKept
Posts: 5,935
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Jordan Bunniie wrote:
Some photographers who only shoot nudes are some of the best ive ever seen.

It doesnt bother me. I'll never get why people let what others do bother them so much.

+1

Oct 10 12 11:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
afplcc
Posts: 5,971
Fairfax, Virginia, US


Eurocat wrote:
..beg to differ. smile

On a sidenote, the post was about nudity, not diversity.
I can have a very diverse folio, without ever being clothed. But that's just mho.

Well said.  I showed some of my work from the photojournalism days to a date once.  It had work from Beirut, El Salvador, Colombia, Angola, Moscow and a bunch of other places.  It involved wars, refugees, an earthquake, a flood, urban and bush settings, color and B&W, a couple of riots, a bombing or two.  Her reaction was "don't you shoot anything other than wars?"

A decade later, I showed a mix of my work with models (some glamour nude, some fashion, some casual portraiture, some boudoir but mostly artistic nudes) to an architectural photographer and his response was "don't you shoot anything other than women?"

Diversity is in the eye of the beholder.  The less discerning the eye, the less diverse it appears.  It can be the same model, nude in every picture, and still be quite diverse (high key, low key, glamour vs. art nude, color and B&W, bodyscape macro shot vs. distance silhouette, indoors and outside).

Ed

Oct 11 12 04:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Adrian Sidney
Posts: 6
STUDIO CITY, California, US


Are you approaching him and asking him to shoot you or is he approaching you and asking to shoot you nude? Either way, Your body is hot so try not to be turned off by the proposal and take it as a compliment. If you aren't wanting to shoot nude then tell him it's against your beliefs. Also You never know if it's that he has a vision of what he wants to shoot and you fit the mold of the model that he is looking to shoot. As a model or a photographer we all must keep our minds open to new and different things if we want to be creative.
Oct 11 12 05:20 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Tricia Oaks
Posts: 106
Thousand Oaks, California, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

yess, you are the only one.

wink

Oct 12 12 11:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rik Williams
Posts: 3,252
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

Well I'm not a model, however since many others have offered an opinion, so shall I.

I find it inappropriate when photographers only post lewd, tasteless, and/or explicit nudes.
There's a local guy on here who has nothing but poorly composed and incompetently lit images of "naked girls" in his profile.
But the thing that creeps me out the most about him, is that he has 5 or so medium close ups of vaginas.
He has been a member for over two years, but his image development seems positively stagnant.
To me this says, he is beginner who seems obsessed with nudity/vajayjay moeso than developing his photographic skills. ie; he uses digital photography as a way to get "chicks nekid".
I think this kind of profile is disturbing, but hey, that's just one opinion.

Oct 13 12 12:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,431
Salinas, California, US


afplcc wrote:
Well said.  I showed some of my work from the photojournalism days to a date once.  It had work from Beirut, El Salvador, Colombia, Angola, Moscow and a bunch of other places.  It involved wars, refugees, an earthquake, a flood, urban and bush settings, color and B
Oct 13 12 12:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Simmagination
Posts: 3,129
Westminster, Maryland, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

Fine!  Fine!  I'll leave my pants on! tongue

Oct 13 12 10:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Wysiwyg Photography
Posts: 6,326
Salt Lake City, Utah, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.

Probably not.

But I'm sure there might even be a few photographers that get turned off b models who shoot clothed ONLY.

I guess it could go both ways.

Oct 13 12 11:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,301
Upland, California, US


R L P wrote:
probably not.

but if that's their passion, it poses no problem to others. agree?

Obviously... she (the OP) doesn't agree... roll... lol

Oct 13 12 11:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Wysiwyg Photography
Posts: 6,326
Salt Lake City, Utah, US


Eurocat wrote:
I sincerely get offended when people tell me they DON'T want to shoot me nude. Seriously! To the point of throwing cats!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-YgvUADPg

That's right... and if you do nudes again... Patchy will go in the leaves again!

Of course this lady could be protesting your right to pose nude too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-0j8GUu … re=related

Oct 13 12 11:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
safe as houses
Posts: 431
Schaumburg, Illinois, US


Erika Muse wrote:
Its the lack of diversity that is a turn off to me.

Are you saying that there's no "diversity" in nude photography?

Oct 13 12 11:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Derrick_G_FlossyFlick
Posts: 141
Edgewood, Maryland, US


I love to shoot period! I shoot all kinds of stuff. Events, Kids, Families and yes I do some nude work as well. I am always wondering if having too much variety is a problem in my port. Here on MM it seems as though nudity gets way more attention for sure! I just keep shooting whatever that is in front of me the best I can bottom line!
Oct 13 12 11:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Miroslava Svoboda
Posts: 555
Seattle, Washington, US


Karl Blessing wrote:

I can only see it being an issue if said "photographer(s)" were harassing her for not shooting nude.

It is also an issues when the said photographers turn on their "attitude" once they figure out you don't do nudes. smile

Oct 13 12 11:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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