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Rachael Bueckert
Posts: 1,121
Red Deer, Alberta, Canada


I've heard that MAC shadows are good for shoots for their high pigmentation. Are there any other cheaper brands that also have good pigmentation? Also, what types of brushes should be essential to my kit?
Oct 06 12 10:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alisyn Carliene
Posts: 11,753
San Bernardino, California, US


Urban decay!!! I have 2 palettes love it!
Oct 06 12 11:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
MUA Melissa
Posts: 55
Mandurah, Western Australia, Australia


I personally love Yaby eyeshadows and they are a lot cheaper than MAC. (Yes smaller but very pigmented).
Oct 07 12 06:37 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Elizabethmakeup
Posts: 338
Hereford, England, United Kingdom


I use MAC, Inglot and Illamasqua plus others but those are my favourites.
Oct 07 12 06:53 am  Link  Quote 
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About Faces-Lynn
Posts: 957
Detroit, Michigan, US


Oct 07 12 07:00 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Virginia Ann
Posts: 53
Eastland, Texas, US


BH Cosmetics has a  large palette thats cheap and good
Oct 07 12 09:37 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Andrew James Makeup
Posts: 335
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


Illamasqua every time big_smile
Oct 07 12 12:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ThirdEyeMakeup
Posts: 299
Los Angeles, California, US


Yaby yaby yaby, ben nye, make up for ever
Oct 07 12 01:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Lauren Reynolds Makeup
Posts: 282
London, England, United Kingdom


Lots of good suggestions here (would be wary of those mega sized, mega cheap palettes though). Also look at Shu Uemura, they have the most beautiful eyeshadows, they blend superbly and are very pigmented. And Sugarpill if you like dramatic colours.

Edit: Just re-read the OP, they aren't so cheap but offer good value in my opinion for the amount of time they will last you, quality and staying power. Ben Nye and Inglot are good and cheaper though smile

Essential brushes, I would look at a small fluffy brush for highlighting, blending and contouring, a medium one for sweeping light washes of colour, and a small or medium flat eyeshadow brush depending on how big your eyelids are, for packing colour densely onto the eyelid and for creams. You can manage to do a lot with these three. After that, look at pencil brushes (contouring) and liner brushes, and different sizes of fluffy and flat brushes depending on what you find yourself using most. Hope this is helpful smile
Oct 07 12 02:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Alabaster Crowley
Posts: 6,647
Tucson, Arizona, US


One of the keys to getting the best pigment from eye shadows is primer.

There are tons of them out there, and I'm sure someone else here can attest to the expensive brands, but as a model and everyday makeup wearer, I use the ELF eyelid primer, which is just one freaking dollar*. I think it's awesome and totally changed my life eyeshadow-wise big_smile

*They also have a three dollar version that I haven't tried because I don't find it necessary when I like the cheaper one so much.
Oct 08 12 01:07 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Kelly Ager MakeupArtist
Posts: 138
Liverpool, England, United Kingdom


I don't think there is just one brand I would recommend for shoots. There is so many out there so go and have a play around with them!
Oct 08 12 04:42 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
House of Westenra
Posts: 41
Louisville, Kentucky, US


Kryolan has amazing eyeshadow palettes with 18 shades for under $50.

If you join OpenSky right now they give you a $20 credit and free shipping, so you only have to pay $32 right now.  Just did it tonight!

Or you can get them through Camera Ready Cosmetics for $41 if you get their professional discount, $45 if you don't. smile
Oct 14 12 06:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dannielle Levan
Posts: 12,857
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada


Being an MUA ain't cheap, and photographers will be pissed if you show up and use cheap makeup that barely shows on camera.
Oct 14 12 07:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Miz Lulu Photo
Posts: 127
Nelson, British Columbia, Canada


Sedonalace.com
Oct 15 12 01:52 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Miz Lulu Photo
Posts: 127
Nelson, British Columbia, Canada


Sedonalace.com
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Photographer
StrixPix
Posts: 8
Phoenix, Arizona, US


2nd on the MAC
Oct 15 12 03:16 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
M_M_MU
Posts: 211
Seattle, Washington, US


As far as consumer eyeshadow goes, I find that MAC doesn't read as dark on camera as it looks in person, but I do use MAC for most things due to the fact that it is relatively inexpensive (with pro discount) and reasonably pigmented. I prefer MUFE, but they aren't very competitive in terms of price. I think they simply have the best black available though. Some Nars are OK, but they seem to be quite hit and miss.
Oct 15 12 10:47 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
M_M_MU
Posts: 211
Seattle, Washington, US


Strangekitty wrote:
Being an MUA ain't cheap, and photographers will be pissed if you show up and use cheap makeup that barely shows on camera.

There is plenty of very expensive eyeshadow that doesn't show up well on camera. Price is not generally the main factor in quality eyeshadow.

Oct 15 12 10:51 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Innovations by Jen
Posts: 4
Akron, Ohio, US


These are 95% of my kit: http://www.motivescosmetics.com/desired
My business has increased considerably over the last 3-4 months because photographers have been very impressed with not only my talent [blushing] but because of the professional quality of my products and how they make edits minimal. It's nice to be able to offer above and beyond what the photographer expected!!
Oct 26 12 06:22 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Ivy Lee
Posts: 167
Brookhaven, Pennsylvania, US


Honestly..if you want REALLY cheap but very good pigments..
I have to say I love this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Pro-120-Ful … 416d9971cf

I got it on a whim years ago and everything shows up SO well and are so easy to use. The blackest black actually shows up very black, not all grey like a lot.
It also washes off easy so is great for multiple makeup changes. Although if you're working outside or have risk of humidity/sweating, it may not be the best unless you use a good primer with it.
But for $11 ..what do you have to lose!? =P
Oct 28 12 07:18 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Tegan Lynn MUA
Posts: 511
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada


Yaby never fails to deliver.
Oct 28 12 08:02 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Tegan Lynn MUA
Posts: 511
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada


Alabaster Crowley wrote:
One of the keys to getting the best pigment from eye shadows is primer.

Also, this.

Oct 28 12 08:03 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Magnificent Make-Up
Posts: 24
Cinderford, England, United Kingdom


I use a lot lots of different ones. One that works well and has had many compliments is W7 sometimes known as Warpaint. Many of their eyeshadows are shimmer but it still comes out well on camera.
Oct 28 12 08:38 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Ms BSK
Posts: 886
Brooklyn, New York, US


You have to play with the shadows to know what you like. There are some amazing shadows mentioned that are super pigmented like Yaby, Viseart (best neutral palette every), Inglot, Ben Nye and the list goes on. (Take a look at Senna Cosmetics as well - they have some great palettes.) The texture is just as important as the color payoff. There are brands where the texture is dry and it makes it harder to blend, other brands are creamier but offer too much shimmer or glitter. The only way to know is feel them to find out what works for you.

Start with a good neutral palette and a few colors to get started. The colors will depend on what are you plan to work in. Bridal & commercial = softer and pastel colors. Editorial = brighter, uber pigmented colors for starters.

There are theater stores that will carry the non-consumer brands. Try Sephora for many of the rest; also when a makeup or industry show comes around you should try to go. Many of the brands are there with testers and they offer some great discounts as well.
Oct 28 12 10:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Bombshell Beauties
Posts: 1
Prince Frederick, Maryland, US


I personally love Stila, Urban Decay and Kat Von D palettes from Sephora...the pigmentation is amazing but you also have to have a great primer/base to really allow the colors to show. I love too faced/urban decay primers but also NYX jumbo eye pencil in milk (white) is AMAZING as a base.
Oct 29 12 04:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ImageBeautique
Posts: 169
London, England, United Kingdom


If you cant afford to buy MAC eyeshadows (or Nars/inglot etc) then its always a good idea to buy an eyeshadow base for example MACs painterly this way you only need to pay out for one product and you can use pretty much any eyeshadow on top and it will show up just as well, if not better, than a MAC eyeshadow would on its own. Works out a lot cheaper to buy a standard eyeshadow palette  plus the base than it would do go and buy several MAC eyeshadows.

Although I personally use MAC/Nars/Inglot/Illamasqua and still use a paint pot (base) but i work with HD cameras and strong lighting so i guess it depends what you need it for!
Oct 30 12 12:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jojo West
Posts: 972
Silver Spring, Maryland, US


Alisyn Carliene wrote:
Urban decay!!! I have 2 palettes love it!

+1

Nov 10 12 11:46 am  Link  Quote 
Wardrobe Stylist
Castorena stylist
Posts: 22
San Diego, California, US


From experience, I would say that the most important thing of the eye look is the base. Using a good primer/color base (A good cheap color base is the Maybelline Color Tattoos) will make any eyeshadow look amazing! So, you could use something like Wet n' Wild to MAC. Invest in the base of the eye and you will save a lot of money on eyeshadows! Hope this helps smile
Nov 11 12 08:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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KJB
Posts: 1,183
New York, New York, US


Alabaster Crowley wrote:
One of the keys to getting the best pigment from eye shadows is primer.

I respectfully disagree, this is incorrect information.
The pigment level in an eyeshadow is not amplified by a primer.
An eyeshadow's adhesion, blendability and longevity are affected by the correct primer.
The combination of a great primer AND a highly pigmented eyeshadow provide optimum performance.

BTW-
If anyone is interested, I've done a complete breakdown of quality vs price vs gram weight.

http://kjbennett.com/mega-eyeshadow-pal … vs-quality

Nov 12 12 06:14 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Stefania
Posts: 22
Carlsbad, California, US


MADE NYC wrote:
I respectfully disagree, this is incorrect information.
The pigment level in an eyeshadow is not amplified by a primer.
An eyeshadow's adhesion, blendability and longevity are affected by the correct primer.
The combination of a great primer AND a highly pigmented eyeshadow provide optimum performance.

BTW-
If anyone is interested, I've done a complete breakdown of quality vs price vs gram weight.

http://kjbennett.com/mega-eyeshadow-pal … vs-quality

Thank you for this, informative and helpful as always. x

Nov 13 12 07:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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