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Mike Stewart 247 Foto
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Houston, Texas, US


I'm thinking about buying a Canon PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II. I don't plan to print a ton of photos - just 5-20 prints a week for personal use & for clients to have a "hard copy" or two to take home with them after a shoot. 13" X 19" max size is acceptable; less than that I'd say no.

I'm open to other brands besides Canon as well. I use HP Computers and Adobe Photoshop Elements 10. All feedback is greatly appreciated!
Oct 07 12 02:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Michael Fryd
Posts: 3,429
Miami Beach, Florida, US


Mike Stewart 247 Foto wrote:
I'm thinking about buying a Canon PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II. I don't plan to print a ton of photos - just 5-20 prints a week for personal use & for clients to have a "hard copy" or two to take home with them after a shoot. 13" X 19" max size is acceptable; less than that I'd say no.

I'm open to other brands besides Canon as well. I use HP Computers and Adobe Photoshop Elements 10. All feedback is greatly appreciated!

I have been very happy with the results from my Epson 3880.  It produces identical results to the Epson 2880, but is significantly cheaper to operate.

Keep in mind that over 2 or 3 years, the cost of ink will far outweigh the original cost of the printer.   You want to pay close attention to how much ink will cost you per milliliter (not per cartridge), and how many milliliter's it takes for a typical 8 x 10.

For instance most people think that the Epson 2880 printer is less expensive than the Epson 3880 because the 2880 sells for about half the price of the 3880.

It turns out that both printers are about the same price, the higher purchase price of the 3880 is due to it being bundled with about 5 times as much ink as the 2880.  Furthermore, additional ink for the 3880 is about half the cost per ml as ink for the 2880.

Oct 07 12 02:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mike Stewart 247 Foto
Posts: 268
Houston, Texas, US


Thanks Michael you bring up a great point... the avg cost of replacement ink / cartridges is very important for me as well. I'm limiting my usage primarily for this reason.

Also interested in print quality and longevity... i.e. do modern photo printer pics last as long as the prints we used to get from the kodak / foxphoto outlets? Should I use a certain paper type if I intend to print and frame some of my work? Thanks again smile
Oct 07 12 03:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Michael Fryd
Posts: 3,429
Miami Beach, Florida, US


Mike Stewart 247 Foto wrote:
Thanks Michael you bring up a great point... the avg cost of replacement ink / cartridges is very important for me as well. I'm limiting my usage primarily for this reason.

Also interested in print quality and longevity... i.e. do modern photo printer pics last as long as the prints we used to get from the kodak / foxphoto outlets? Should I use a certain paper type if I intend to print and frame some of my work? Thanks again smile

My understanding is that print longevity from the Epson 3880 (and similar printers) is on par, or better than, print longevity from a traditional photo lab.

An issue with print longevity is whether or not the paper uses optical brighteners. Optical brighteners can fade over time.

To my eye, the print quality of the 3880 is better.  I am happier with the prints from my 3880, than my old darkroom prints.


I am not familiar with the Canon printers so I won't comment on them.

Oct 07 12 06:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,458
Brooklyn, New York, US


I have 9000 MKI very good quality for color but for the amount you are going to print
I think you will be be very unhappy with ink costs.
The ink carts are too small and you will have to replace 1-2 tanks every 20 prints esp printing large size.
You have to look at the larger units that have bigger ink carts
The New PRO 1 has much bigger tanks than the 9000-9500
Oct 07 12 06:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Maxximages
Posts: 1,971
Los Angeles, California, US


I had a Pixma 9500. I got frustrated with the size of the ink cart, it seemed almost every time I went to print one or the other cart was low and it would not print. Upgraded to the Epson 3880 smile  2 years of frustration free printing.

Edit
I had no problem with the 9500 printer itself or the quality of the print.
Oct 07 12 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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photoimager
Posts: 4,799
Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom


Michael Fryd wrote:
For instance most people think that the Epson 2880 printer is less expensive than the Epson 3880 because the 2880 sells for about half the price of the 3880.

It turns out that both printers are about the same price, the higher purchase price of the 3880 is due to it being bundled with about 5 times as much ink as the 2880.  Furthermore, additional ink for the 3880 is about half the cost per ml as ink for the 2880.

Precisely why I went with a 3800 when I was sourcing a new printer. I might as well pay less in the longer run and have the option of making A2 prints and with not much bigger footprint for the machine

Oct 07 12 10:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,439
Paris, Île-de-France, France


The Epson 3880 as said above. Initial low cost and much lower cost per ml of ink.

Great colors, the highest quality output. Canon is good, but has less consistency between paper choices with the 9500.
Oct 07 12 10:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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photo212grapher
Posts: 1,538
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


RacerXPhoto wrote:
I have 9000 MKI very good quality for color but for the amount you are going to print
I think you will be be very unhappy with ink costs.
The ink carts are too small and you will have to replace 1-2 tanks every 20 prints esp printing large size.
You have to look at the larger units that have bigger ink carts
The New PRO 1 has much bigger tanks than the 9000-9500

+1

I have the Canon Pro 9000 MkII, and I'm happy with it.
I rarely print on it, and mostly for proofs or portfolio.
Anything for long term display or selling, I use a quality lab.

Oct 08 12 12:23 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Michael Fryd
Posts: 3,429
Miami Beach, Florida, US


Mike Stewart 247 Foto wrote:
Thanks Michael you bring up a great point... the avg cost of replacement ink / cartridges is very important for me as well.
...

Ignore the price of the ink cartridges and pay attention to the price per ml.

An 80ml cartridge for $50 is a much better deal than an 11ml cartridge for $15.

Oct 08 12 04:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mike Stewart 247 Foto
Posts: 268
Houston, Texas, US


Thanks for the replies everybody, I appreciate it.
Oct 08 12 05:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Instinct Images
Posts: 22,464
San Diego, California, US


Mike Stewart 247 Foto wrote:
I'm thinking about buying a Canon PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II. I don't plan to print a ton of photos - just 5-20 prints a week for personal use & for clients to have a "hard copy" or two to take home with them after a shoot. 13" X 19" max size is acceptable; less than that I'd say no.

I'm open to other brands besides Canon as well. I use HP Computers and Adobe Photoshop Elements 10. All feedback is greatly appreciated!

If you decide to go with the Canon check places like Craigslist and eBay. Since Canon often offers deals on bundles where you get a camera, lens (or two), and printer at a cheaper price you can often find brand new printers MUCH MUCH cheaper than you'd pay in stores.

For example, this printer costs $438 at B&H Photo but you can buy it today in San Diego brand new for $240:

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/pho/3322757887.html

Oct 08 12 07:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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