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Gemma Huh
Posts: 153
London, England, United Kingdom


I've had a few comments about these two pictures that the makeup owns me, rather than me owning the makeup. How would I have switched it up in these pictures, and does anyone have any tips?

Thanks in advance smile

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120927/12/5064ae75a06ed_m.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120927/12/5064ae87e1139_m.jpg
Oct 18 12 01:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dannielle Levan
Posts: 12,857
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada


Post in critique or we can't say anything :< (thems the rules)
Oct 18 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 5,995
New York, New York, US


Strangekitty wrote:
Post in critique or we can't say anything :< (thems the rules)

Or in this case, perhaps the MU forum, but I'm not a moderator so I'm not sure.

Oct 18 12 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gemma Huh
Posts: 153
London, England, United Kingdom


Strangekitty wrote:
Post in critique or we can't say anything :< (thems the rules)

Not asking for critique on the images! Just ideas as to how to own the makeup I was given smile

Oct 18 12 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darik Datta
Posts: 118
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Tough to comment without critiquing the MUA.

I don't think anyone could "own" that eyeshadow.
Oct 18 12 04:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rob Photosby
Posts: 2,308
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


There is a difference between fashion and taste.  Everyone should try to "own" good taste, but fashion is often a different story.
Oct 18 12 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kelleth
Posts: 2,509
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Some faces can take more makeup than others. It's a makeup artist's job to make sure the makeup she does is suitable to her subject's face.
Oct 19 12 10:04 am  Link  Quote 
Model
V Laroche
Posts: 2,746
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


So "How to make the ownup"?
Oct 19 12 10:17 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Raw-Beauty
Posts: 184
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


if you are referring to makeup stands out more than you do, it depends on the shoot, type of pose and what was requested.  the colour used is also important.

if you are referring to who own the rights to the photo, the photographer owns the photograph but as for the makeup it depends on the amount of work and originality.  ie. original or exact copy from another artists.  certain makeup can be copyrighted and therefore owned by the MUA.
Oct 19 12 09:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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RKD Photographic
Posts: 3,265
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany


If it's what the photographer wanted then there's little you can do - in some cases with very pronounced, distinctive styles like this, you're effectively reduced to the role of a mannequin...

If you really want images that reflect your tastes (here we go again) you have to pay a suitable photographer to do what you want, rather than what they want...

'Trade shoots' are never really equal - whoever originates the concept will have the final say and as that's usually the photographer, you generally get to put up with what he gives you... In the last three years, I've only had one concept brought to me by a model and that was from one I'd worked-with previously and with something we'd discussed over the course of a couple of prior shoots, so even then it was still more of a collaboration than a straighforward commission.
Oct 20 12 04:14 am  Link  Quote 
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Babalon Salome
Posts: 3,499
Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany


Kelleth wrote:
Some faces can take more makeup than others. It's a makeup artist's job to make sure the makeup she does is suitable to her subject's face.

This.

Oct 20 12 05:42 am  Link  Quote 
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Art of the nude
Posts: 11,804
Olivet, Michigan, US


RKD Photographic wrote:
If it's what the photographer wanted then there's little you can do - in some cases with very pronounced, distinctive styles like this, you're effectively reduced to the role of a mannequin...

This.

Speaking generally, not to critique the specific images; sometimes the image is about you, sometimes it's about the hair and makeup, sometimes it's about the lighting, sometimes it is about the clothing.  If you can pull all of them off well, that makes you all the more useful / valuable as a model.

Oct 20 12 08:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
howard r
Posts: 485
Los Angeles, California, US


in my experience, a lot of mua's overdo it. it's like they are trying to show off their technique (or their latest colors, etc) in situations where less would be more.

i always tell them that i want to notice how beautiful my model looks, not how beautiful the makeup is. obviously that puts some of them in more of a supporting role than they want, but i think the better ones get what i'm looking for.
Oct 20 12 12:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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NicoleNudes
Posts: 3,796
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I actually really like the first image so I don't know *shrug*

As for the second image the eyeshadow and lip stick don't really compliment each other and that's not your fault. I don't really see how you could have "owned" that.
Oct 20 12 12:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Koryn
Posts: 36,108
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Most of the comments you will get from other people are uninformed, driven by negative emotions like competitiveness and jealousy, and therefore without merit.
Oct 20 12 04:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,444
Los Angeles, California, US


It's a confidence thing. The makeup calls attention to itself but you look a bit timid.

Own the makeup and you'll own the makeup.
Oct 20 12 04:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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