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Slixed Foliche
Posts: 121
Mochudi, Kgatleng, Botswana


What do yal think photoshop will be like in the future? Say around the years 2035 or so.
I think everything will be automated to the point where even D&B will be an automated filter ,  I fear the retouching career will be dead then.
Just my 2 cents,
Oct 22 12 03:47 am  Link  Quote 
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Koray
Posts: 6,688
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey


Oct 22 12 05:39 am  Link  Quote 
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Sungoddess Studios
Posts: 5,169
Atlantic Highlands, New Jersey, US


Koray wrote:
http://vimeo.com/22223687

automatic.

Oct 22 12 06:00 am  Link  Quote 
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Koray
Posts: 6,688
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey


Sungoddess Studios wrote:

automatic.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index … 859AA9huwY

Oct 22 12 06:09 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Scribbler
Posts: 125
Bucharest, Bucharest, Romania


Nov 14 12 08:30 am  Link  Quote 
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KMP
Posts: 4,809
Houston, Texas, US


Damnsamn Slixed Foliche wrote:
What do yal think photoshop will be like in the future? Say around the years 2035 or so.
I think everything will be automated to the point where even D&B will be an automated filter ,  I fear the retouching career will be dead then.
Just my 2 cents,

That's 23 years from now. Will you still be doing retouching?



Think of what retouching was 23 years ago.   (See EDIT Below**)
I doubt PS will be anything like we know it today,  if it is around.
Photography itself, will be totally different.

I'm sure it'll be all motion based.  The cameras and software will likely be integrated where you can adjust, edit, pull stills, on the fly. Some of that is already a reality.

You can already decide on your focus in post.   I'm sure there will be software that will go from wide to telephoto just a slider. It'll be complete with compressed.   

Every pro I knew that thought digital was just a trend or felt they could continue only with film is out of business today.

There will be such drastic software and hardware improvements and invention that all I can say is for anyone who wants to be in business in 25 years, is to stay on top of the newest development.

**EDIT: I see you started retouching just 2 yrs. ago.  If you don't know what we had to go through pre-digital, you may find it intesting to see how far it's come

It use to involve applying a flat dope liquid to the emulsion side the  negs.   Then they'd be placed securely on a vibrating machine that held the neg in place. The vibration would aid the retoucher in making small, gentle marks with the aid of 2 large glass magnifiers that blew up the area they were working.   They'd use soft pencils to fill in blemishes and such. The blemishes would look like white spots on the face. The retoucher would use the pencils to blend the area in with pencil lead until it matched the surrounding area.

Additional work was done off the print.   The photographer would make a large print and send that to a retoucher,  who was a VERY skilled air brush artist.

They'd do the requested work to the print and send it back to the photographer.  Then the photographer would shoot a copy neg, normally 4x5 and prints would be made from the copy neg.. 

It might take a week to complete basic retouching back then.
Now it can be done in a matter of seconds.

Nov 14 12 08:45 am  Link  Quote 
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TMA Photo and Retouch
Posts: 727
New York, New York, US


KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote:
Think of what retouching was 23 years ago.   
I doubt PS will be anything like we know it today,  if it is around.
Photography itself, will be totally different.

You will be able to photograph with your eyes...a small external sensor will read your neural path ways... and the images will be picked up and decoded from the electrical impulses in your brain...and the images will be able to look as good as you saw them...and even like you imagined them if you give it some thought! 

With the newer version 2 of the small external neural pathway scanner (its much like our bluetooth device today)...  you will not only be able to exchange visual images with others neurally...you will also be able to capture and re-transmit the neural feelings and emotions that were experienced with those great sunset images.

Photoshop will have a hard time keeping up with how great these images look natively right out of the cortex!  The original RAW images are often pre-processed by the end-user... by how they think and process the information in their cortex...so the images can often times look better than real life itself.  Not much Photoshopping required.  For some reason...the file sizes are incredibly small... and will be of the highest available visual resolution finally.  Adobe will be working hard to offer a cortex image processing plugin in its Photoshop version CS-16 release.  Its going to require a 256 bit computer however.  Great--- another upgrade!

The next version CS-3 (Cortex Scanner 3) is reported to have some Motion Capturing Ability...and "up to 10 seconds of full motion sight" can be captured, replayed and transferred.    Great--- Another new device im going to want to keep charged up!  And Adobe will be 110% "in the Cloud"... and will be working hard to tether this technology in LightRoom 15 using the newest thought-less ethernet standard.

Its going to be an awesome world...I dont "think" I can wait!!

Nov 14 12 09:14 am  Link  Quote 
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John Horwitz
Posts: 2,707
Raleigh, North Carolina, US


more expensive!
Nov 14 12 09:19 am  Link  Quote 
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KMP
Posts: 4,809
Houston, Texas, US


TMA Photo and Retouch wrote:

You will be able to photograph with your eyes...a small external sensor will read your neural path ways... and the images will be picked up and decoded from the electrical impulses in your brain...and the images will be able to look like you imagined them even. 

With the newer version 2 of the small external neural pathway scanner (much like a bluetooth device)...  you will not only be able to exchange visual images with others neurally...you will also be able to capture and re-transmit the neural feelings and the emotions that were experienced with the images.

This made me laugh..but you're probably not far off LOL

Nov 14 12 09:24 am  Link  Quote 
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Redcrown
Posts: 151
West Des Moines, Iowa, US


Notice in the last youtube video posted by Scribbler, the girl with raccoon eye makeup..

The most noticable defect is the uneven eyes (right eye half closed, left eye normal), yet the retoucher did not fix that. Instead they warped several less important areas, hardly noticable.

Why do you think that is? Because their technology can't handle the eye fix? Or because the retoucher thinks ears, necks, and chins are more important than eyes?
Nov 14 12 11:51 am  Link  Quote 
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KMP
Posts: 4,809
Houston, Texas, US


Redcrown wrote:
Notice in the last youtube video posted by Scribbler, the girl with raccoon eye makeup..

The most noticable defect is the uneven eyes (right eye half closed, left eye normal), yet the retoucher did not fix that. Instead they warped several less important areas, hardly noticable.

Why do you think that is? Because their technology can't handle the eye fix? Or because the retoucher thinks ears, necks, and chins are more important than eyes?

Actually, I thought the ear fix looked odd....But over all it was quite impressive..

Nov 14 12 01:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mister Harts of NYC
Posts: 39
New York, New York, US


:-) maybe?

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/541972_384257838259573_2037220052_n.jpg
Nov 15 12 07:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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Grafanovitchi
Posts: 572
San Marcos, California, US


If any of us could accurately foresee the future, we would all be fabulously wealthy.

My best guess is that things like portraiture and liquify will be built right into the capture device. I won't call it a camera. Cameras as we know them may cease to exist.

Rank amateurs will be able to retouch on the fly and professional photography will have to once again totally reinvent itself or vanish altogether.
Nov 15 12 08:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gulag
Posts: 1,241
Duluth, Georgia, US


A paradigm shift is coming because all new single pixel camera is on the horizon. All you need after all is just one pixel.

http://dsp.rice.edu/cscamera

http://www.ams.org/samplings/math-histo … -pixel.pdf
Nov 15 12 08:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dan OMell
Posts: 1,335
Ufa, Bashkortostan, Russia


it should be something that:
* is connected wirelessly to your brain.
* projects your dreams you don't already remember when awake, to 2D monitor or 3D projector
* is capable to generate outline overviews as well as the detailed visual fragments of ideas and elements containing in writings, paintings, drafts, studies and/or expressed by different combination of abstract components in written, verbal or visual forms in multiple variations with gradations manipulated by your intent.
* it can show your the envisions of a blind person, an animal to set them free of technicalities.

we're in the caves right now with self-expression.
any painter living today or in 15th century can express himself almost equally good (if not better) without photoshop. the best usage is digital replacement of the original tools. something became easier, but it's not overly dramatically different.

we're in the caves so far, with photoshop. nothing changes. no progress. no visibility of it. we're going back to the old forms and expressions and variations of the same with a lot of repetitions and copycatting just more and more. look at the tendencies. and all this technical stuff didn't help to change something dramatically. this is a technical barrier. technologies are very very slow and awfully outdated. no acceleration in the right directions.

why? all focus was on monetizing the computing power.
collecting private information. patent wars especially!! tracking and other shit to advertize the shit. so, we're in deep shit now.
IMHO
Nov 15 12 10:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Select Models
Posts: 36,008
Upland, California, US


It will slowly evolve into PhotoBrush 5.0... cause it's twice as easy and 1/10th the price... borat
Nov 16 12 03:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Kevin Connery
Posts: 16,873
El Segundo, California, US


Select Models wrote:
It will slowly evolve into PhotoBrush 5.0... cause it's twice as easy and 1/10th the price... borat

I dunno, Gary. I'd figure Photoshop would have even more capability than now rather than far less. smile

Nov 16 12 06:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5,209
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom


Mister Harts of NYC wrote:
:-) maybe?

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/541972_384257838259573_2037220052_n.jpg

Yeah..no. smile

Nov 16 12 08:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15,486
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


Futuristic Photoshop; PS will do all the thinking for you and give instant results it's what people are hoping for, some of this can be seen in forums ' how do I achieve this look' ...... Try composition and lighting for starters, the basics.

Gadgets don't create pictures.
Nov 16 12 12:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kawika Photography
Posts: 110
San Diego, California, US


Simple, you just look at it and think, "You know what I want" and it's done.
Nov 16 12 09:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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SugarSharai photography
Posts: 387
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada


KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote:

This made me laugh..but you're probably not far off LOL

supposedly some think computers will merrily be a contact.  i would say.. a contact camera?  that would be cool!   (its removable so if it needs any bug fixes, you dont lose your eyes!!

although this could be the 5th addition, after they reallize their origional concept wasnt as verstile... hmmmmm    go innovation!

Nov 21 12 11:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Slixed Foliche
Posts: 121
Mochudi, Kgatleng, Botswana


Kawika Photography wrote:
Simple, you just look at it and think, "You know what I want" and it's done.

hehehehe! that would be awesome.

Nov 22 12 04:37 am  Link  Quote 
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