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Photographer
O l i v i a
Posts: 7
Columbus, Ohio, US


Hello! I began on this website wanting to create images as a model. I learned that it was not for me and I decided to explore being behind the camera. I took college classes for digital photography and only recently began shooting images that are for me and not school projects.

I know it's a very small amount of images, but I hope I am at least going in the right direction and I want to continue to improve. I'm mainly interested in portrait, fashion, editorial and advertising.

Thank you smile
Oct 27 12 09:45 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lee_Photography
Posts: 8,400
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a33e55f6ef_m.jpg
In three of your images your models are quite centered
Just a basic question, model has dark hair, building is dark, would it not be better to shoot the dark hair against the blue sky?

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121026/13/508af7cc0f305_m.jpg
Distracting background
Want longer looking feet, don’t point toes at camera
Oct 27 12 05:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
O l i v i a
Posts: 7
Columbus, Ohio, US


Thank you for the reply Lee! So I take from this that I need to work on posing and to make sure details aren't lost due to being similar colors.

With the model being centered, I can't seem to find an answer on what is most appropriate, or at least meets the general viewer's taste. Sometimes I hear the crop is too close or not close enough - if they are to be centered.

In the first image you quoted, I wanted to make sure the building in the back was in the shot, but maybe I could have either found a better way to have it in there or added a light to separate her hair and the building.

The second shot, I was trying to emulate pin-up poses. Now that I look at them online again, I see some with toes at the camera, but the majority have one foot pointed away. I have to remember this next time!
Oct 27 12 06:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lee_Photography
Posts: 8,400
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Thank you for the reply Lee! So I take from this that I need to work on posing and to make sure details aren't lost due to being similar colors.

With the model being centered, I can't seem to find an answer on what is most appropriate, or at least meets the general viewer's taste. Sometimes I hear the crop is too close or not close enough - if they are to be centered.
[From the experienced folks you will here that the rule of thirds comes into play, leave space in front of the models body not behind, the model with the building behind her head is actually left of center, her head is facing photo right and you have space on photo right, so this is a pleasing photo in that regard]

In the first image you quoted, I wanted to make sure the building in the back was in the shot, but maybe I could have either found a better way to have it in there or added a light to separate her hair and the building.
[Is the photograph of the model or building? Yes a rim light or back light would help with separation

The second shot, I was trying to emulate pin-up poses. Now that I look at them online again, I see some with toes at the camera, but the majority have one foot pointed away. I have to remember this next time!
[If you point toes, feet, fingers at camera they will appear short due to the fact the camera is only 2D, so if you put them parallel to the film or sensor plane they will appear the longest, if you watch the really talented models there feet almost form a “V“ with the heel of one foot positioned at the arch of the other]

[The pose of the model against the wood panel is forming a super “S” curve, draw a line down through the models head and spine, so that part of the pose is fantastic, notice too that the models elbows are off to the side, this makes the arms appear as long as possible, so as far as posing some things are perfect, other areas could use some adjustment]

For posing get a good photographers book on posing from a used book store or camera shop and try to do the poses your self, for me I’m a big guy so when I show a model a pose I get a laugh which shows in the photo as a happy model.
You know you had a good photo shoot when the model says things like that the biggest work out I ever had posing for photos.

Wish you well
Oct 28 12 08:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Sineann
Posts: 557
Appleton, Wisconsin, US


O l i v i a wrote:
The second shot, I was trying to emulate pin-up poses. Now that I look at them online again, I see some with toes at the camera, but the majority have one foot pointed away. I have to remember this next time!

I once read a tip where a supermodel was giving advice that you should never have both feet pointed in the same direction.  I think "never" is a little too much, since there's always an exception to the rule, but generally it seems to be a decent pointer.  Also, not only do you not want toes pointed directly at the camera, but if the model's entire body is straight to camera, she is going to look wide.

Oct 29 12 02:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sineann
Posts: 557
Appleton, Wisconsin, US


http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a342de69a6_m.jpg

I really like the yellow lights in the corner, but in full size, the red light above her head is distracting.  It sits directly on top of her head, almost like a hat. wink

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a33e55f6ef_m.jpg

I agree that her hair (and the detail of the jacket from the shoulders up) would have stood out better against the sky rather than the building.  What were you aiming for with this image?  For it to be a portrait, I'd expect a closer crop and more focus on the face.  For it to be editorial/fashion, I'd expect the whole body in the frame and a more dynamic pose. 

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a340fc53ad_m.jpg

I like this one as a whole, all the colors work, the location works, and I like the shadow and wind in her hair.  As far as the pose, I like the seated position and the overall mood.  Going back to what I said about your body being straight to camera, take a look at her left leg.  Because she's got it towards the camera that way, it looks shorter than it is and also makes the top of her thigh much bigger than it is.  If she'd had it resting on the ground like the other leg, which both of them pointed to the side, it would give the illusion of length plus create a nice "s" curve.  Also, you generally don't want to see the bottom of the shoe on camera like with her right foot, but that's a picky detail.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a339cb303f_m.jpg

Don't love the editing.  It looks less professional than the other images.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a33bba777c_m.jpg

I don't get the styling, but I like the composition.  Again, what is the purpose of this in your portfolio?  What story does it tell or what type of work do you hope to attract by showing this?

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121026/13/508af7cc0f305_m.jpg

Again, styling is a little weird to me as it's a pin-up pose with a totally non-pin-up outfit.  That aside, the vent or whatever it is in the bottom right corner is very distracting. 

Hope that all helps!
Oct 29 12 02:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
O l i v i a
Posts: 7
Columbus, Ohio, US


Sineann wrote:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a342de69a6_m.jpg

I really like the yellow lights in the corner, but in full size, the red light above her head is distracting.  It sits directly on top of her head, almost like a hat. wink

Haha, I thought of that red hat too well after I had uploaded the image.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a33e55f6ef_m.jpg

I agree that her hair (and the detail of the jacket from the shoulders up) would have stood out better against the sky rather than the building.  What were you aiming for with this image?  For it to be a portrait, I'd expect a closer crop and more focus on the face.  For it to be editorial/fashion, I'd expect the whole body in the frame and a more dynamic pose. 

You're right with a more dynamic pose. Although for editorial at least, I feel that in a lot of the ones I see, the location and set are shown to help set the mood for the viewer. Regardless though, it's nice to discuss things like this as I like knowing what other people expect.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a340fc53ad_m.jpg

I like this one as a whole, all the colors work, the location works, and I like the shadow and wind in her hair.  As far as the pose, I like the seated position and the overall mood.  Going back to what I said about your body being straight to camera, take a look at her left leg.  Because she's got it towards the camera that way, it looks shorter than it is and also makes the top of her thigh much bigger than it is.  If she'd had it resting on the ground like the other leg, which both of them pointed to the side, it would give the illusion of length plus create a nice "s" curve.  Also, you generally don't want to see the bottom of the shoe on camera like with her right foot, but that's a picky detail.

Ah, I completely see what you mean about her leg. Thank you! I will also have to remember to watch out for the bottom of shoes, it definitely doesn't look right.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a339cb303f_m.jpg

Don't love the editing.  It looks less professional than the other images.

Thank you, and I agree. That shoot did not go my way, and these were the best from the shoot. I'll have to take that down soon.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121025/23/508a33bba777c_m.jpg

I don't get the styling, but I like the composition.  Again, what is the purpose of this in your portfolio?  What story does it tell or what type of work do you hope to attract by showing this?

You're right, I did completely mix up different elements and this doesn't really make sense now.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121026/13/508af7cc0f305_m.jpg

Again, styling is a little weird to me as it's a pin-up pose with a totally non-pin-up outfit.  That aside, the vent or whatever it is in the bottom right corner is very distracting. 

Haha that darn vent! I thought it would give the back setting a more older feel to it, but just doesn't work.

Hope that all helps!

Again, thank you for help! I appreciate the time you spent. Lee as well. smile

Oct 30 12 09:21 am  Link  Quote 
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