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Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Edit: All done. Thank you.

Pretty = In the short term a lot of people will appreciate it, but over time the concept can become 'dated' as it's replaced by the new(er) notion of what's aesthetically pleasing or 'beautiful'. Like an actress that in her era was considered a rare beauty, but when you look back you don't see what it is that made her special.


Memorable = At first it's possible that few people will appreciate it. Maybe it's not the most aesthetically flattering piece, but because of a strong message or mood, or some other intangible element, it tends to 'grow' on you over time until it becomes one of your favorites.


I am a person with an unusual brand of taste. I prefer interesting or unique photos over pretty photos. Post here and I will tell you what I believe is your most unique or interesting or memorable piece.
Oct 29 12 07:35 am  Link  Quote 
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Shauni Mary Jane
Posts: 986
Thief River Falls, Minnesota, US


This should be a very interesting thread. smile
Oct 29 12 07:49 am  Link  Quote 
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MatureModelMM
Posts: 1,137
Detroit, Michigan, US


I would like to know smile
Oct 29 12 07:53 am  Link  Quote 
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Paul Tirado Photography
Posts: 4,242
New York, New York, US


Go ahead and take a look. Thanks.
Oct 29 12 07:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Merry Jane wrote:
This should be a very interesting thread. smile

Technically there are flaws . The bokeh is somewhat harsh, the framing is off, the focus is on your shoulder instead of your face, and there are areas of overexposure......

......But none of that matters because of the mood it sets; especially with the expression on your face. The piece looks as if would be right at home in a book of poetry, or perhaps in one of those epic romance novels with a tragic ending. Expression is powerful. We can all relate to it. It never becomes 'dated'. It's just as powerful in 50 years as it was the day it was captured. There is nothing worst then a perfectly lit, perfectly composed, high megapixel, but boring photo.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120726/15/5011be45ec5d0.jpg

Oct 29 12 08:00 am  Link  Quote 
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Mark Anthony Photo
Posts: 199
Pottstown, Pennsylvania, US


Game.
Oct 29 12 08:04 am  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


MatureModelMM wrote:
I would like to know smile

Normally when you have a memorable piece, it's not something that most people can immediately 'process' and appreciate. This is because possessing a refined sense of taste is a talent. It is just as much a talent as being a good photographer, or a model. People study art appreciation in universities in order to better understand art, and what makes a piece notable.

However, this photo is a classic exception to the rule. It has contemporary appeal thanks to the young fertile beauty, and also more lasting appeal due to the contrast of two different worlds being thrown together. This is a photo that everyone can appreciate, from the snobbiest art critic to 'joe-sixpack' on the MM forums.

Just think about everything going on in this photo. You have prime of life versus the twilight years. Confidence versus meekness. Power versus fear. Clothes versus 'nakedness'; and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I have not even gotten to mood, expression, the statement it makes. That's why this image is such a hit, and rightfully so. Congratulations.


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http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … bb4f20.jpg

Oct 29 12 08:17 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Lola Magdalene Scott
Posts: 79
Lexington, Kentucky, US


I'm game smile
Oct 29 12 08:25 am  Link  Quote 
Model
NicoleNudes
Posts: 3,860
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I'll play smile
Oct 29 12 08:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
L Bass
Posts: 957
Nacogdoches, Texas, US


I'm curious. Thank you wink
Oct 29 12 08:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Paul Tirado Photography wrote:
Go ahead and take a look. Thanks.

You have a very well developed commercial style of photography. Clean images, all about the model, on point retouching. However, the old saying among photographers used to be, "You don't shoot commercially for your book, you do it for your pocketbook."

Meaning of course that it's difficult to serve two masters. Commercial images, by their very nature, are designed to appeal to a broad audience. On the other hand, the images I'm looking for here are more about making a statement, setting a mood, ect. It's very, very difficult to do both at the same time (but not impossible).

However, I will say that I most admire your on location photography images. I love when you leave the comfort-zone of your studio and just head out to the streets. I appreciate it very much when a photographer leaves all his expensive lights behind and heads out with just a camera and a model and walks around seeing what catches his eye. Down to the basics, I say. Just a photographer and his muse doing their thing. No clients, no assistants, no lighting crew. That's when I believe the very best work gets done.

To me, this image reminds me of that photographer-model relationship at it's core, and that's what I like about it:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120922/17/505e544cd788a.jpg

Oct 29 12 08:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Mark Anthony Photo wrote:
Game.

Painting is the art of inclusion. Photography is the art of exclusion. By this I mean that as a painter, you start with an empty space and put into your piece exactly what you want the viewer to see.

Photography is exactly the opposite. We shoot photos and try to 'exclude' distractions from the piece. That's why photographers use seamless backgrounds and why so much energy is put into finding suitable locations. To make a good photo, you have to put as much thought into 'excluding' elements of the image that would be distracting, as you do into including what's interesting. How many photos have we all seen ruined by too much 'clutter'? Getting rid of that clutter is part of the learning process of being a good photographer.

For this reason, I think this is your most memorable image. It includes only what is necessary, and nothing else. It's not a perfect image, but you're on the right track. Keep going.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 20790d.jpg

Oct 29 12 09:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Moon Pix Photography
Posts: 3,892
Syracuse, New York, US


Cool...

Game!

smile
Oct 29 12 09:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Lola Magdalene Scott wrote:
I'm game smile

At this point you're at the early stages of your journey. I admire that you seem willing to try all sorts of 'weird' concepts. That's good! The word 'comfortable' should be a dirty word to photographers and also to models. It should should piss you off if someone tells you that you've gotten comfortable with your work. We don't need to be comfortable. We need to push, to explore, to *see*. We need to take chances and to try concepts that might ultimately fail.

Failure is part of the process. We *need* to fail. A lot. We need to try so many different things (that don't work), that one day we have an epiphany of what does work. It's a subtle change, but just seeing your world in even a slightly different light makes all the difference.

If I had to choose one image in your portfolio, it would be this one:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 7e4e00.jpg

It's not what I would call a great image, but it does show a 'spark' of imagination, and imagination is something that you can build on. Keep going.

Oct 29 12 09:19 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Off to the gym. Will be back later for more.
Oct 29 12 09:19 am  Link  Quote 
Model
B E A R
Posts: 474
Riverside, California, US


Ok smile
Oct 29 12 09:24 am  Link  Quote 
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Jorge Kreimer
Posts: 2,380
Los Angeles, California, US


Go ahead!
Oct 29 12 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
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WRH Photography
Posts: 27
Powder Springs, Georgia, US


Check mine out I'm always curious what others like smile
Oct 29 12 11:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
WRH Photography
Posts: 27
Powder Springs, Georgia, US


Check mine out I'm always curious what others like smile
Oct 29 12 11:25 am  Link  Quote 
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DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Take a peak smile
Oct 29 12 11:31 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Yume Look
Posts: 493
Atascadero, California, US


Curious if I have anything memorable smile
Oct 29 12 11:37 am  Link  Quote 
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Meghan Devlin
Posts: 682
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


I would love to know. smile
Oct 29 12 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


NicoleNudes wrote:
I'll play smile

Because of your curves, I think a lot of photographers are using you in a more traditional 'figure nudes' style. Basically these are photos that show off the female curves and her form, but they are somewhat 'rigid' in respect to the fact that they don't give the llama as much of an outlet to show her personality.

I think that the 'hotel room' series, and the shot in the pool (linked) hint at some really interesting work that you could easily transition to where the emphasize is more on telling a story through a photo or a series of photos. This is the direction that I would like to see you follow in the future, granted that may not always be possible because of the 'gold standard' that we're operating under.

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Oct 29 12 01:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
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Miami, Florida, US


L Bass wrote:
I'm curious. Thank you wink

With you I'm going to with with this shot because of it's sincerity:

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http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 958b48.jpg


What do I mean by sincerity? Well I often say that the best photos are often the ones we never got to take. I'm sure that every photographer new or pro will identify with the fact that when you put a big camera in front of someone they start acting differently. They *act* for the camera instead of being themselves. As a results a lot of the photos look very posed and unnatural.

This particular example looks more 'authentic' then the rest. I get less of pretty girl posing for a photographer 'vibe', and more of a feeling of being in the room with her.

Being able to 'be yourself' in front of the camera is the hardest thing in the world. Only the very best models have the ability to do that all the time. With even really good models, we only get 'flashes' of brilliance, before they revert back to 'acting'.

Oct 29 12 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
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Miami, Florida, US


Moon Pix Photography wrote:
Cool...

Game!

smile

You have a few interesting photos actually. What makes them interesting is that you are not only able to tell a story in one photo, which is not easy, but also into that photo I see a lot of symbolic elements being incorporated. I am not sure if this was done intentionally or it just happened automatically on a subconscious level, but it works well.

I think that a lot of the nude models shooting mainly 'eye candy' type work should take a greater interest in photographers such as yourself. Of course the inherent problem with this suggestion is that models often go where the money is, and shooting eye-candy type photos for private portfolios is nearly always a more lucrative enterprise.

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http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/11 … b17316.jpg

Oct 29 12 01:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Moon Pix Photography
Posts: 3,892
Syracuse, New York, US


Dark Shadows wrote:

You have a few interesting photos actually. What makes them interesting is that you are not only able to tell a story in one photo, which is not easy, but also into that photo I see a lot of symbolic elements being incorporated. I am not sure if this was done intentionally or it just happened automatically on a subconscious level, but it works well.

I think that a lot of the nude models shooting mainly 'eye candy' type work should take a greater interest in photographers such as yourself. Of course the inherent problem with this suggestion is that models often go where the money is, and shooting eye-candy type photos for private portfolios is nearly always a more lucrative enterprise.

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http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/11 … b17316.jpg

Thanks smile

Oct 29 12 01:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
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Miami, Florida, US


Bear wrote:
Ok smile

I'm going to choose this image because I think it's the one that best represents your personality:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120117/19/4f1635e3b3c30.jpg

What do I mean by that? Well I get the impression that you are the sort of girl that likes to smile, and who is generally well liked and easy to get along with. This is the only photo which has been able to capture a 'piece' of who you are in terms of your personality.

Oct 29 12 01:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mark Anthony Photo
Posts: 199
Pottstown, Pennsylvania, US


Dark Shadows wrote:

Painting is the art of inclusion. Photography is the art of exclusion. By this I mean that as a painter, you start with an empty space and put into your piece exactly what you want the viewer to see.

Photography is exactly the opposite. We shoot photos and try to 'exclude' distractions from the piece. That's why photographers use seamless backgrounds and why so much energy is put into finding suitable locations. To make a good photo, you have to put as much thought into 'excluding' elements of the image that would be distracting, as you do into including what's interesting. How many photos have we all seen ruined by too much 'clutter'? Getting rid of that clutter is part of the learning process of being a good photographer.

For this reason, I think this is your most memorable image. It includes only what is necessary, and nothing else. It's not a perfect image, but you're on the right track. Keep going.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 20790d.jpg

Thank you,  this is the one that gets the most attention it seems.  it was spur of the moment.

Oct 29 12 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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BYNW
Posts: 437
Oak Harbor, Washington, US


I would love to know.
Oct 29 12 05:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
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Miami, Florida, US


Jorge Kreimer wrote:
Go ahead!

What I like about your style is that you set up your photos like 'figure nudes' against seamless, but you also throw the 'boring' part of that equation away. You're not afraid to cross the imaginary line in the sand. *That* makes all the difference.

So many times I have had a model ask me if I'm going to keep the session 'classy'. Okay, can I be the first one to say it? Darlings, let me tell you, classy is (most of the time) boring as fuck!

I love that you're willing to throw a bit of sexual tension or a pinch of comedy into your images. You make figure nudes fun. You do them with a sparkle in your eye and a smirk on your face. That's the difference. That's why I find your work to be very 'fun', while at the same time finding many other similar shots to be forgettable. I bet you have a great sense of humor.

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Oct 29 12 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 7,744
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Shoot...
Oct 29 12 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


WRH Photography wrote:
Check mine out I'm always curious what others like smile

My favorite quality when it comes to your images is that they have the look of un-posed photo-journalism type photos. Of course these images by definition are very natural looking, which is good. However, I do have a suggestion. I recommend that you tone down the retouching a notch or two and let the camera do more of the work. It's very easy for photoshop to become destructive unless you're a master with a clear vision that you want to achieve. Until you reach that point, it's better to use a light(er) touch.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/10 … 5aaa2e.jpg

Oct 29 12 06:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
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Miami, Florida, US


DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Take a peak smile

When you're at your best, your images have a very cinematic and film-like quality to them. At your worst, it's more like cookie-cutter glamour.

Do more of the cinematic ones(my suggestion). If you want to continue doing glam (I know on MM there is a lot of love and demand for glam), take more risks so that your shots really stand out.

Cinematic feel:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 5b2a87.jpg

Oct 29 12 06:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Ratley
Posts: 5
Telford, England, United Kingdom


I'm curious about this thread. Count me me!
Oct 29 12 07:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
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Miami, Florida, US


Yume Look wrote:
Curious if I have anything memorable smile

I feel like I'm right there in the room with you. That's what makes this image so interesting. It's very authentic. With this image I feel as though I'm seeing a slice of the real you, not the 'model-make-believe-you'

I've said it before and I'll say it again; the most difficult thing in the world is to shoot completely natural looking photos. For this image, you pulled it off.

I have a feeling that you're very a 'muse-able' girl. Meaning if you team up with the right photographer sparks are going to fly and we're going to see some really amazing work. The trick is to find the right one.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111229/16/4efd055f64496.jpg

Oct 29 12 07:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jensen Cole
Posts: 37
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Im very curious.
Oct 29 12 07:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 7,877
Imperial, California, US


I can almost guess, but, have a go!
Oct 29 12 07:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Klarrissa
Posts: 2,322
Los Angeles, California, US


I'll play, thanks in advance!
Oct 29 12 08:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


Meghan Devlin wrote:
I would love to know. smile

I'm actually a little bit surprised by your portfolio. I looked at your 'join' date and you've been modeling for nearly two years (at least).

You're an attractive girl so I would expect you to receive plenty of offers, but there is just not a great deal of work on display, and of the work shown at least 5 images are from the same shoot. Either you are exceptionally picky when it comes to choosing people to work with, or modeling is a side thing that you only do once in a great while.

I think that up to this point no one has really been able to bring out the best in you as a model. I'm going to select this image for no other reason other than it's a full length photo and a probably the best representation we have of your look and potential as a model. Now you just have to go out and use it to land more photoshoots.

Oct 29 12 08:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dark Shadows
Posts: 2,269
Miami, Florida, US


BYNW wrote:
I would love to know.

For you I'm going to choose this image:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/11 … 384872.jpg

The reason is that it's a natural photo. Not in the sense of telling a story through expression and looking natural while doing it, but natural in a 'time capsule' sort of way. In other words, it's not 'gimmicky'.

I do have a suggestion, if you'd care to hear it. I think you should use a more light handed approach with your retouching, especially when it comes to saturation. A few of your images are what I would call over saturated. In general I think if you stick to the basics for now you'll end up growing more rapidly.

Oct 29 12 08:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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