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Paul Tirado Photography
Posts: 4,145
New York, New York, US


Yes an artist who would take 3 hours to do hair and makeup - unless it was something super complicated - that would probably be the last time I work with them.

I have had a pleasure of working with hundreds of hair and makeup people. Apart from those that stood out for their skills were those who took 3 hours to do their thing and that one hairstylist I worked with who could do any complicated hairstyle in 15 minutes or less. She owns her own salon so she doesn't have much time to shoot but damn I miss her.

As some of have mentioned, full hair and makeup as a photographer your best case is an hour - you expect an hour and half - two hours plus is killer of mood in the shoot. If subsequent looks take much shorter durations, you can get away with 2 or so for the first look. But if all looks that long then that is a deal breaker.
Nov 11 12 03:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tina Sun
Posts: 35
London, England, United Kingdom


If it's hair and makeup, my experience is that it usually takes 1.5 hours, depending on how complicated the hair is. Where there is a hair stylist and mua separately, everything runs under 40 minutes. I've never had makeup that ran for 3 hours before!
Nov 11 12 03:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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LC Makeup and Styling
Posts: 90
Perth, Western Australia, Australia


Id say around 35 -40 mins.  Although the other day I did one and it ended up taking over an hour because the model was a royal pain in the a#$e and kept changing her mind as to what she wanted AFTER I'd already done what she asked.  Grrrrrr  I do believe though that it depends on the type of makeup they want because some styles/themes need alot of work.
Nov 11 12 03:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mary
Posts: 7,097
Coronado, California, US


Seeing the replies all over the board.... I think the best thing to do is just ask... How long do I have for makeup and hair?  the photographer/client, whoever is paying you will have no problem letting you know.

I do the most important stuff first...I always assume I will have very little time.  When I have the bare necessities covered I go in and perfect the look with as much time as I have.  This means foundation.... concealer..... mascara..... lips....blush...brows.... hair.... At the end I work on the eyeshadow, liner, fake lashes if needed etc. That way if they need the model before I'm done at least I know she won't look unfinished.
Nov 11 12 09:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Linda Chudomelova
Posts: 133
Prague, Prague, Czech Republic


Mary wrote:
Seeing the replies all over the board.... I think the best thing to do is just ask... How long do I have for makeup and hair?  the photographer/client, whoever is paying you will have no problem letting you know.

I do the most important stuff first...I always assume I will have very little time.  When I have the bare necessities covered I go in and perfect the look with as much time as I have.  This means foundation.... concealer..... mascara..... lips....blush...brows.... hair.... At the end I work on the eyeshadow, liner, fake lashes if needed etc. That way if they need the model before I'm done at least I know she won't look unfinished.

Mary, sometimes I wish I could just clone you or at least have a mini-you with me on every job. This is BRILLIANT advice! Shame on me I couldn't think of that on my own. big_smile

Thanks. smile

Dec 22 12 03:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
inese
Posts: 242
Los Angeles, California, US


3 hours for one look ? That's way to long. Every set is different, everything depends on the look the client wants. But if it's very simple look and the girl has great features and skin up to 20- 30 min for makeup. Hair if it's something simple maybe 15-20. If it's complicated look, more.
Dec 22 12 04:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ken Marcus Studios
Posts: 8,349
Los Angeles, California, US


I've been shooting models for major magazines for many years and have used top makeup artists for most of my shoots.

I always allow at least 1 hour and 20 - 30 minutes for makeup

Occasionally, it goes faster and sometimes slower.

1hr & 20min seems to be the average

It seems the less experienced MUA's take less time and do an inferior job

KM
Dec 22 12 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Katy Gonzalez
Posts: 284
Yucaipa, California, US


Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I've been shooting models for major magazines for many years and have used top makeup artists for most of my shoots.

I always allow at least 1 hour and 20 - 30 minutes for makeup

Occasionally, it goes faster and sometimes slower.

1hr & 20min seems to be the average

It seems the less experienced MUA's take less time and do an inferior job

KM

Now, maybe I can stop stressing and feeling paranoid about my timing. smile

Dec 22 12 05:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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KJB
Posts: 1,181
New York, New York, US


Mary wrote:
commercial clients paying models  $100.00 to $300.00 an hour... You will be lucky to get one hour for makeup and hair.  If you're doing a test, you just take as long as you need, money isn't involved...who cares?   Editorial... you normally get about an hour for makeup and hair...unless it's Vogue....I assume you take as long as you like on major Fashion magazines.

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

I'm pretty astonished at many of you. I'm generally given 20-30 minutes to get a face done (including full on red carpet glamour). I'm lucky when a client gives me a full hour to do both hair and makeup. I was shooting a well known designer's look book right after NYFW Spring 2013 and the client and art director were on top of me after 30 minutes...and I was doing makeup & hair.  Sheeeeesh!

I want to work for these people that are giving the rest of you hours to get the work done...sounds like a vacation.

Dec 23 12 03:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mary
Posts: 7,097
Coronado, California, US


thanks KJ.... Words of wisdom as usual....I just remembered while looking at this thread again that my avatar is a great example... The model was very good, from a great LA agency....she showed up with clean hair, no makeup (as good models do)  she showed up early (as good models do)  the issue was that with back to back models I had only about
1 hour... that's not normally an issue...HOWEVER.... I had to share her with wardrobe and because this is all about the clothing, wardrobe trumps makeup and hair.... I in reality had her about 20 minutes with her... So I did foundation, concealer, mascara, lip and cheek stain... brushed her hair.... done.  If I had more time I would have done a bit more with the hair but in the end you get the time you get and that's it.  On commercial jobs, nobody is working cheaply...models are making over $4000.00 a day on a normal day....  This isn't the testing world where everyone wanders around with their Starbucks cup discussing "looks" and "direction"
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