samlouise wrote: Do some photographers mind if dogs are bought too the shoot just one dog, well behaved and frindly ? Would you see a problem ?
Yes.
Some might be allergic...
The one time, key word one, that I allowed this the damn dog pissed and shit all over my studio floor, and the model had the audacity to think I should be the one to clean it up, since it was "my place". Should I mention what else was going on? Ahhh...nvm.
The shoot didn't last long.
At any rate, never surprise anyone, always ask first.
Eliza C
Posts: 7,869
Swansea, Wales, United Kingdom
Let slip the dogs of war....
I think it a shame everyone gets so uptight about taking dogs to work anyway. I remember it was allowed until about five years ago to take dogs to work at the RGS but there are fewer and fewer places that allow it now health and safety etc. But I guess one has to be aware even the most well behaved dog could scag a dress or some expensive piece of wardrobe or knock expensive equipment over. Others may be ok about bringing one. Some may even like the idea of working with the dog as a prop. I think when I did my third shoot with my now partner (wasn't at the time) he specifically wanted to do it with my dog. I am glad I have those pictures now because he passed two weeks ago
So I guess ask the photographer. Every individual will vary but most I'd imagine would think it unprofessional so don't assume and only ask the kind of photographer you think will say yes.
Digiography
Posts: 3,130
Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
I encourage models to bring their dogs to shoots... but then I'm a idiot when it comes to dogs, especially large smelly ones... better than large smelly escorts in my estimate.
Dogs, cats, escorts, significant others, goldfish, dangling jewelry, it doesn't matter what it is, if it's not a part of the shoot, it doesn't belong at the shoot.
I have had to take my dog to a couple of shoots, simply because boarding him or leaving him for that long a time was not an option.
In both cases I asked the photographer BEFORE I even set something up with them, if there was any possiblity to bring my dog. It was no problem on either of those, as in one he was outdoors in a fenced in yard for a couple of hours. The other time we kept him in an empty horse stable.
He was happy, mommy did her shoots and got paid, no hassle.
But in general, I'd try to avoid bringing any animals to shoots (although I love to travel with my kitties).
I see a potential problem of distractions, damage and delays. Some dog friendly photographers may like to see him/her, but most will find it objectionable.
samlouise wrote: Do some photographers mind if dogs are bought too the shoot just one dog, well behaved and frindly ? Would you see a problem ?
Yes, a problem.
Don't get me wrong -- I LOVE dogs, but a dog at a photo session...
... Is distracting,
... Has to be watched,
... Can get overexcited in a new environment,
... Might need walkies at the wrong moment,
... Might want to mark the studio as "his",
... and so forth.
Nope. A model showed up one time with her dog in a purse. Dog ended up in a bunch of shots.
A few years ago I wanted to have my portrait done with my dogs so I hired a local studio. I showed up and walked in alone. The photographer asked where my dogs were. I said they were in the car and that I thought we should discuss things before I brought them in. I had a Lab, a beagle and a rottweiler in the car. He said, "Oh for God's sake, bring them in." So I brought them in and he said, "Off leash." I said, "Are you insane?" He said, "Trust me." So I let them off leash and the dogs ran around and sniffed everything for 5 or 6 minutes and then they settled right down. The first shot of the four of us together was the best one. I've had models show up at my house to shoot and immediately ask if my Doberman can be in some photos with them. Dogs have caused me fewer problems than some models and their 'friends' have.
Eliza C
Posts: 7,869
Swansea, Wales, United Kingdom
Incidentally I have had about a dozen dogs on jobs and about the same cats. Not that they that were mine except the one time I was asked. They all belonged to photographers/artists/designers. I even did a runway show for a boutique with a greyhound on a lead impromptu that went down well. There was talk about arranging a whole show with different dogs for a rescue but that hasn't come off yet but could be a nice idea.
But they are paying us so they can do what they want. I was never asked if that was ok but frankly it was always nice. One greyhound and one cat in particular used to curl up with me on longer pose art jobs.
If it's outdoors I wouldn't mind. I have my own dog and volunteer at a rescue, so I'm used to being around dogs. I rent a studio so if we were to shoot there it would be a no to the dog coming along.
I do shoot families who want thier dogs in the pictures, so that I allow and they are paying clients,
but models just wanting to bring thier dogs just because....NO...
I had a model bring a little "housebroken" dog to a shoot and after she left I discovered he must have been broken to go in the kitchen.
After I cleaned up one mess I decided no more pets.
I had one model ask if she could bring her "ESCORT"...this was a shoot at the nude beach here in Portland........turns out the "ESCORT" was a big black GREAT DANE named RUFUS!! He loved chasing a ball, romping in the water and even decided I was OK after all!! So got a three-fer during the shoot....did her shoot, then them together, then some shots of just him!!
samlouise wrote: Do some photographers mind if dogs are bought too the shoot just one dog, well behaved and frindly ? Would you see a problem ?
I love dogs. I'm a dog owner. I love shooting dogs. And no, dogs aren't allowed to any shoot I'm doing unless (a) it's outdoors and the dog helps with security (one shoot in Yosemite, the dog we were hiking with warned us of a bear). So very wild outdoor locations, a dog is an option. Or (b) if the dog is part of the shoot.
It's like a model bringing a young child to a shoot if the child isn't part of the shoot and there is no daycare. The model gets distracted, you have another issue to deal with (get the dog out in regular periods, you can't improvise and go outside or the rooftop and leave the dog alone inside the studio).
I like pets a lot- however when I go to a location to shoot and the photographers dog wont stay away from me, gets into my personal space, you know, overall acts annoying and they wont put it in another room, I'm turned off by the whole thing.
If they have a cat, I'm usually the one trying to go see it...dang evasive fluffy pretty things!!
I'm fine with animals on set if they mind their manners. They are sort of like children, in mixed company, keep them away- haha!!
As a model, if your animal doesn't require a lot of attention, you're probably fine to bring it caged after asking to know if there are any allergy issues.
Matt Knowles wrote: And why does there need to be a dog at the shoot?
If it behaves, it's not going to add anything to the shoot unless I'm actually shooting the dog.
If it doesn't behave, the list is endless what could happen.
So why would I want a dog on set?
If it's part of the shoot, it could be cool, although I'd want someone watching it the rest of the other time. Otherwise, it's a classic escort, nothing to add, and likely to get bored and be a nuisance.
If you want to shoot with a dog, the logical thing to do is to base the shoot at your house, so the dog is comfortable with the surroundings, and doesn't need to be constantly monitored.
Rays Fine Art wrote: Dogs, cats, escorts, significant others, goldfish, dangling jewelry, it doesn't matter what it is, if it's not a part of the shoot, it doesn't belong at the shoot.
IMHO, as always.
Even if they aren't part of the shoot, I prefer that the models bring clothing; it saves on awkward questions from the neighbors.
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