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Michael Clancey
Posts: 68
Colorado Springs, Colorado, US


I have only done TF shoots so far.  It's been a great experience.  Of the several I've done, one of them I completely screwed up the entire session.  I felt terrible about it.  I felt I wasted her time, my time, and didn't produce quality images.  I had moved my lighting gear, had the iso set wrong on my camera and didn't take the time to prep for the shoot to get some sample shots of inanimate things to set it up correctly.  I rushed myself and I should not have.  It was a regrettable lesson for me on being prepared.
Nov 13 12 09:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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PWF Retouch
Posts: 290
Jacksonville, North Carolina, US


Mark Laubenheimer wrote:
you have to start somewhere.....

1+

Nov 13 12 09:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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1990Andrew2012
Posts: 5
Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada


Toto Photo wrote:
0. Learn how to reliably take good photos, by studying and/or attending classes.
1. Develop a port with your very best work--in the beginning you might need to shoot friends and family.....

.....REGARDING REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS
I believe one can reasonably expect for a model or photographer to be at least as good as their most recent published work. I'm pretty sure models hoping for usable images would feel the same way, but hope some chime in here.

0 and 1 are both things I've been doing.  I get together with other photographers who have put more time in and learn from them. Always surround yourself in any arena with people more experienced than yourself, you'll be forced to grow. 

90% of the people in my port are friends or family, as they're the most comfortable to be around just starting off.  A lot of what will help you is just networking, putting yourself in a position to learn, and doing it.  And I would have to agree on the being at least as good as our last published work.  We shouldn't be getting worse, just better (this should be pretty obvious). 

This is coming from another camera guy though, models may feel differently.

Nov 13 12 10:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Toto Photo
Posts: 2,355
Belmont, California, US


Alena Hovorkova wrote:
.. interesting read,
thanks everybody!
The more I read/get into it, the more questions come up to my mind every minute .. 
(That´s normal, I know. I won´t ask everything here smile )

Just an update -
meanwhile - I was finally successful in finding a (semi-pro, according to her words) model willing to shoot/test with me TF. We have already met, in advance, and - so far - she looks to be fine with what I can offer, which I am happy for. (She actually was the only one out of about 15 models that I have approached/asked if interested). The shooting is scheduled for the end of next week, in Prague (where I booked/rent a studio), so we´ll see.

And I also - as adviced - tried out to approach a few friends, too (I was surprised how many people/friends of mine would actually be happy for ´having some nice pictures´ ... Well, I did not promise anything ´amazing´, actually - but they still don´t mind, though - which is great, makes things a lot more easier smile )
We´ll try to find some spare time for our shooting before I shoot my first TF session with a model.
Hopefully my basic equippement/camera/lenses (Canon 60D, Canon 70-200 /1:4 L USM, Tamron 90 /2,8 MACRO) are suitable for what I plan to do /close-up portrait, half body portrait, full body .. in a 9 m long studio.

Interestingly (for me) - I also had a meeting with a photographer (that I mentioned before, regarding model release/legal issues/questions he promised to help with/answer  .. it´s one of my clients - friends, actually, that I retouch for) - but - it turned out that the meeting did not seem to be very helpful for me, in the end. He actually didn´t tell me anything new I didn´t know before asking - since - in his own words - (which was quite a surprise for me) -  he ´didnt´t bother´ with paper work/ these issues too much (just using general forms downloaded from internet). Don´t know why is that, perhaps that´s just ok .. and I don´t want to overcomplicate it, neither - but for me - I definitelly plan to ´bother´, a bit at least, regarding those legal issues, though ..
A lot to learn.

Alena,
Thanks for the update! It was so much fun to read. How inspiring it is to see someone seek advice, take advice and move forward successfully.

EQUIPMENT
Yes, your equipment list looks fine for your shoot, although all you have is telephoto length lenses, so you should check in advance if the 9-meters of studio space gives enough room with those long lenses to back up enough to get a full body shot. It might, it will be close, but if it doesn't (use a tape measure, your yard and a friend to test soon) rent a 50mm or so.

If you aren't familiar with lighting equipment, ask if the studio you're renting can provide some assistance.

PHOTOGRAPHER MEETING
Too bad nothing productive came from meeting with the photographer. In the future, when you setup these meetings you might want to tell them the main reason for the meeting, say model releases/legal, and ask if that is something s/he has experience with. But I must say, very impressive you set that up too and failure is not a waste of time, it is a learning experience.

SHOOTING
Congrats on finding the semi-pro model, smart to meet with her in advance, sounds like the meeting went very well. Also congrats on finding friends to shoot. You shouldn't be surprised at all, I can tell by your conversation here that you are probably greatly appreciated by your friends as a good listener!  Are some of them coming to the studio too for after the model shoot, I hope?

You are doing so much to feed success and starve failure--good form. And with your background in makeup, I can't help but think you'll make a fabulous photographer, especially living in one of the areas of the world where so many beautiful models come from. What I wouldn't give to visit Prague and rent a studio for a month!

Would you consider updating this thread to tell all of us how the shoot went?

Nov 20 12 09:51 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Alena Hovorkova wrote:
But - what if the photographer only has little (or no at all) experience with shooting models, so far? Or - just needs testing? I mean - what if NO picture is ´good enough/worth/beneficial´ to model´s portfolio, after the photo-session, in the end (or - the model just expected something else, perhaps?)

Try this...they are called "Wig Stands" from Hair Supply/Salon stores (add a cheap wig for hairlight practice, etc). They are about $40 for the good painted ones. You can also get the styrofoam ones for cheaper (like $6) but don't try to spray-paint them...because the styro melts! LOL!

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/wigstand.jpghttp://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/hedstam.jpg
GREAT for lighting practice.

Nov 20 12 12:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paul Best
Posts: 1,293
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Laura UnBound wrote:
If one party is unable to provide something useable to the other, then they either dont work together at all, or the less valuable party pays the other one.


Its also bad form to use a TF session as a "Im gonna test this new idea that I have no clue if it will work or not, because youre here for free!". Models willing to TF with you are not signing up to be your guinnea pig. Theyre working with you because they believe you will deliver them something like what youre exhibiting in your portfolio, not for some yet-to-be-seen idea you cooked up the night before. So while yes, you can certainly try out a new lighting set up or new shooting style or new gear, or whatever... also be sure to make enough time to shoot something you KNOW will turn out well, so that your model doesnt walk away totally empty handed if your new bright idea didn't actually work out.

The only times I've ever been screwed on a TF shoot were when someone thought they could screw around with a new idea theyd never tested out before, and thats ALL we did, and I didnt know they didnt actually know what they were doing.

It also doesnt hurt to form friendships with other models (or just regular friends willing to step in when you need a model) so that you can shoot for fun without too much "I HAVE to make sure this is PERFECT" pressure on the shoot. And its a chance to try out that new ____ that may or may not work and you dont want to waste a models time on it. I frequently shoot just for the fun of it with a few friends of mine. If we get something portfolio-worthy out of it, fantastic, but if we just have a good time, thats good enough.

If i got new gear i tell the model that i'm testing my new **  and they dont feel like a guiny pig but more excited to help me out and never know if we can get a good shot .. not everybody is looking for gurantee quality .. they love to do it and respect art , not just what they get out of it

Nov 20 12 12:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Erik Ballew
Posts: 710
Westminster, Colorado, US


ArtisticGlamour wrote:
Try this...they are called "Wig Stands" from Hair Supply/Salon stores (add a cheap wig for hairlight practice, etc). They are about $40 for the good painted ones. You can also get the styrofoam ones for cheaper (like $6) but don't try to spray-paint them...because the styro melts! LOL!

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/wigstand.jpghttp://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/hedstam.jpg
GREAT for lighting practice.

This is Fred, he has been my go to "Test" model since 1989!!

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/533598_10151121930587810_1175195371_n.jpg

Nov 20 12 01:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Erik Ballew wrote:
This is Fred, he has been my go to "Test" model since 1989!!

LOL! lol Exactly!

Nov 20 12 05:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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BrandonLuong
Posts: 1,016
Los Angeles, California, US


even when you work with modeling agencies its called a "test," it doesnt mean that you are guaranteed photos, its exactly as it sounds, its a test. There is potential for photos, but because its free there shouldnt be expectations.

It would be different if there is pay (obviously), but beside that what are you expecting. ITS FREE
Nov 20 12 05:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alena Hovorkova
Posts: 123
Brno, Jihomoravsky, Czech Republic


.. haha, Fred apparently has already seen/experienced a lot,
nice, lol smile


..
I´ve been off my studio (/nor checking this thread) for a while .. 

You are all so great - and so helpful,
thanks!

and - thanks Toto Photo, for answering my equippement question,
and - for your nice words/support .. smile


..
As for how my shooting sessions went -
well .. the things/shooting(s) actually did not go quite the way I had planned... at all smile

The friend of mine got sick with a flu (so no ´pre-testing´ shoots were possible), and - the model - well, for some reason - did not show up in the end, neither (she actually called about 1 hour before our shooting session - asking wheather we can postpone/start shooting three hours later. That was unfortunatelly not possible for me, since that was not my studio - but the pre-paid/rented one, for a particular scheduled time.)
So my very first ´studio shooting session with a model´ turned out in a session .. without a model (sigh) ...

But - I was pretty lucky, though,
since the studio owner was a nice /quite amazing, in fact/ guy, experienced with newbies/ - who was willing to assist/help me out with the studio equippment - and even to provide me (just for a  while, to test & see the difference, but that was great too) some more different lenses ... So - after my session time ´expired´, I ended up with about 3GB of pictures. No model, but - whatever that was available in the studio got shooted instead - chairs/stools/tabourets, bottles, boxes, children toys), testing different light set-up /distances /exposures/ backgrounds/lenses etc. .... which turned out to be SO great and exciting .. (and SO useful/essential, in fact - since - I actually felt a bit like an idiot - after I had figured out that I actually had had no clue about what a great/essential difference the different lenses make in a limited studio space .. and that those lenses of mine were actually not the very best choice, actually (yes, you were exactly right, TOTO,  no ´full body´ shoots possible, with my telephoto lense in studio .. 5,5m max distance available, actually, due the furniture etc.)
   
So, I do not know - still no experience with a model shooting ..
but - enjoyed every single minute in studio.
And - I have already ordered the ´wig stand/head´, too - just to be sure next time when my model won´t (perhaps) show up again, I won´t stay alone, lol ..
(thanks -ArtisticGlamour- for a tip, I didn´t think of that before .. )

So, no ´new and exciting´ news from me, I am afraid .. smile
just thought I´d share - meet my very first model ...

http://www.ahdesign.cz/mm/Meet_my_first_model_by_alenahovorkova.jpg
Nov 22 12 05:55 am  Link  Quote 
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DavidLaskey Photography
Posts: 112
Chelmsford, Massachusetts, US


Been there.  Done that.  Still along the way of branching out.

1)  TF* can be great or it can be rough.  I started out doing CL and worked up to MM.  You can get some people who really want to test and want to build their ports on all ends, model, H/Mua, photog, and this can be great to build everyone's skills.  For a new or growing photog, this is the hardest to pull off.  You may get some people from free, but the model does mater.  I have shot some who could not pose or really did not have a body awareness, and an experienced photographer will be able to guide them along, get the shapes, et al, but when you are new, you start fighting a lot of different battles?  Is it your set up, the model, your position.  When you work with your first real experienced model, you really see the difference.  Lot of pictures at this stage can be salvageable, but a lot of times either the face or body can be off and makes for a tough shot. 

2)  A lot of times TF has cash components... for me at least.  Most of it is still trade, but generally I am paying for gas, snacks and drinks, make up kit, and often throwing a little extra towards the model and hair and makeup way.  Make sure you have this defined up front.  I recently got bit by "negotiable".  I had one understanding, they had another.  We had only roughly discussed the details and nothing was brought up before, during or at the close of the shoot

3)  Practice, Practice, Pay, then Invest.  This is more to me just personally and because I am really focused right now at becoming a better shooter and really stepping up my portfolio.  TF* shoots like what I describe in #2 can start getting pricey.  Does not take much to get your out of pocket to be $250 or more.  You may get a ton of great shots, but how much can you really use in your portfolio?  While you can have different looks, I think you need to have variety, so maybe 2 shots in your book from a shoot are o.k., anything more starts looking like you don't have enough work.  These days I lean more to when you really want to make your portfolio make a big leap when you are really trying to take the next step, you need experienced models who will nail that shot.  Makes your job easier, but pinnacle images will help you shine more as well as the experience will help you be able to get the looks out of newer models
Nov 24 12 10:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Alena Hovorkova
Posts: 123
Brno, Jihomoravsky, Czech Republic


thanks, David.
(I was also wondering wheather - or to what extent - ´body awareness´ is kind of natural thing for models .. or wheather that´s something they need to learn/practice, perhaps, too  .. 
Interesting .. )

I´ve approached some other models again, in my location (not Prague, this time), but no one has replied yet - so I´ll wait a few days more, and/or I´ll keep on trying, again ..

(for Toto, and/or those who may care, too, perhaps):
Untill I find a real/live model who is willing to shoot with me,
here´s a new model-friend of mine.
Very tolerant & patient of me ..
smile

http://www.ahdesign.cz/MMphoto/900pxDemo_test1.jpg


And here´s also her collegue(s) -
at the ´figurine/wig stand´ store ..

http://www.ahdesign.cz/MMphoto/_MG_0147_store.jpg

I actually was a bit lost about the lighting (and space available) there ... It was pretty dark there, side-day/sun light mixed with low-intensity ceiling fluorescent lamps and some few randomly placed strong bulb-lights here and there, giving some strong light/highlights, but almost all faces were ´hidden´ in shadows .. .. I couldn´t move/touch anyting there, nor I could get different angle/distance, since only two narrow and short corridors among standing figurine-groups were available there ..
So - it´s just a test, I didn´t expect much while taking the photo (but I couldn´t resist, though)  ..
(edited, cropped, color/tone ballanced)

But - still only plastic model(s), though.
So far.
Nov 25 12 05:18 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Alena Hovorkova wrote:
http://www.ahdesign.cz/MMphoto/900pxDemo_test1.jpg

That's what I'm talkin' bout! smile You will become a lighting master because it allows you to "slow down" and think (and experiment!) Well done.

Now check these out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC9dNLN7aUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsbGJoX8KsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxd2vXrZ … ure=relmfu

Nov 25 12 06:39 am  Link  Quote 
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DavidLaskey Photography
Posts: 112
Chelmsford, Massachusetts, US


I have only shot a couple real experienced/agency models.  Unfortunately probably the best model I worked with was the 2nd one I ever shot, so I was really fighting more the light than being able to capture what she was giving.  That is one of those sessions I would LOVE to have back to do over today.  Got great shots, but were I shooting it today, would have have much much better shots. 

Even for shoots I have been on with Agency models where I was doing web/behind the scenes video, I have seen a lot of models that take a while to warm up.  You can see them thinking, they are more posing than flowing, but once they get into it, you really see the difference. 

Back to the 2nd model I ever shot, she was real professional and had about a 70 - 100 pose routine.  She knew her angles, faces she wanted and it may have been more technical, but she was very aware of how hip, shoulder and other angles affected the shape of her body.

She was also excellent in being aware of where the light was, and did not pose or move out of it.

I am still working on my direction and awareness, one of the reasons I picked up a tablet to have a fast and bigger screen to quickly review, but with some of the new models it comes down to really having awareness.  Her pose could be good if I am shooting more down on her, but if I am shooting up, it looks totally off.  This ultimately falls on my shoulders, not hers, but I think with more experienced models they just have a better awareness of the photographers perspective and seem to be shaped in the frame better. 

One phrase I have heard is that the more experienced model you work with, the less time you need to get the shot you want.  I tend to agree with this. 

The downside, especially if you are shutter happy, you may start to have trouble selecting images because there may be 5 or more that all look great, but are so similar.  All and all, not a bad problem to have
Nov 25 12 09:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Dan Morrill
Posts: 4
Seattle, Washington, US


Use meetup.com for your local area - subscribe to some modeling groups in your area, for example here in Seattle, Black Mist and Selective Focus are the two most friendly for learning how to take pictures of models - Femme LTD is also good - but shoots in odd locations that might be difficult to get to with a ton of lighting equipment.

That is how I got started two years ago - meetup.com has been awesome for helping me find groups that are willing to work with newbie photographers - you can learn a lot from those experiences.

If a studio ticks you off - don't go back, there are a couple of studio groups I won't work with because you meet the "jerk photographer" - but there are always groups out there that are awesome for connecting new models to new photographers or new models to experienced photographers you can learn a ton from.

my 2 cents. YMMV.
r/d
Nov 27 12 05:29 am  Link  Quote 
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D-Fotograf
Posts: 54
Frankfurt, Hassia, Germany


First off, the market you currently belong to (Europe-Chez) is so different than here. For one most Europeans are different in their approach to photography. "if you see something or nothing in a portfolio of a photographer that wants to work with you as I see it you have two choices. 1)- Tell him you need a certain type of motive or genre of work for your port. This will give him/her the opportunity to work in a format or range as if contacted by a regular client for a specific purpose.

2). Think past what you need currently.
I have often re-learned how get excited by just shooting simple stuff. Sometimes even the simplest stuff produces some amazing results.

Maybe you should start other ventures in other types of work. Try product or convention work?


Alena Hovorkova wrote:
.. does that make sense - in terms of what both sides expect from TF*?

As I understand TF* between a photographer and a model - the photographer benefits from having a model/look/style for shooting (or perhaps having a chance to test some studio/light setup etc.) - and - the model benefits from getting some new images for her/his portfolio ..

But - what if the photographer only has little (or no at all) experience with shooting models, so far? Or - just needs testing? I mean - what if NO picture is ´good enough/worth/beneficial´ to model´s portfolio, after the photo-session, in the end (or - the model just expected something else, perhaps?) ?

Does this ever happen with professional photographers, perhaps, too? What is a reasonable compensation for model´s time, in that case - or - what are reasonable expectations, on both sides, while (TF*) testing?
How do you go about that, if so?

Just curious about how things work.
Thanks for your thoughts,
a.

(Aspiring/hobbyist/amateur photographer myself - not completely new to photography, but never been working/shooting with models before, so far.)

Nov 27 12 05:51 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Nov 27 12 06:34 am  Link  Quote 
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photoguy35
Posts: 905
Goodyear, Arizona, US


If they have them near you, group shoots or meetups are another way for beginner photographers to quickly get an opportunity to work with several different models in one event.
Nov 27 12 05:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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GER Photography
Posts: 7,494
Imperial, California, US


Alena Hovorkova wrote:
.. does that make sense - in terms of what both sides expect from TF*?

As I understand TF* between a photographer and a model - the photographer benefits from having a model/look/style for shooting (or perhaps having a chance to test some studio/light setup etc.) - and - the model benefits from getting some new images for her/his portfolio ..

But - what if the photographer only has little (or no at all) experience with shooting models, so far? Or - just needs testing? I mean - what if NO picture is ´good enough/worth/beneficial´ to model´s portfolio, after the photo-session, in the end (or - the model just expected something else, perhaps?) ?

Does this ever happen with professional photographers, perhaps, too? What is a reasonable compensation for model´s time, in that case - or - what are reasonable expectations, on both sides, while (TF*) testing?
How do you go about that, if so?

Just curious about how things work.
Thanks for your thoughts,
a.

(Aspiring/hobbyist/amateur photographer myself - not completely new to photography, but
never been working/shooting with models before, so far.)

Ahh yes! But what if the model only has phone pics?:-))

Nov 27 12 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alena Hovorkova
Posts: 123
Brno, Jihomoravsky, Czech Republic


> ArtisticGlamour
glad to hear that smile
and thanks for your links, interesting, added them all to my ´check-it-out-soon´ list .. 


> David
thanks for your post/thoughts  ..
interesting ..
btw - love the English expression ´shutter happy´ .. (and yes, I think I am .. smile )


> guerilla-photographer
meetup.com - looks interesting ..
but - for me /unless I overlooked something/ - there are unfortunatelly no such meetup groups for my location available (only very few existing groups for Pague/almost none for Brno - or - if so - none modelling/photography-related. So far.)
But, definitelly interesting link, thanks for the tip ..


> D-Fotograf
about the market - I can´t compare myself  - but - I also believe there´s a difference. (At least I can see it in other fields of my activities/people work or communicate with.)
And yes, you are right about the ´empty portfolio´ -- I do not have any photography work up yet - still nothing to show, no live-model-shooting yet .. (and, not sure wheather my other non-model-related photos - that I shooted so far - might impress potencial models so much .. ) 

Looks like I´ll have to overcome this ´empty-portfolio-stage´, somehow .. until my first real/live model-shotting, hopefully some day ..


D-Fotograf wrote:
2). Think past what you need currently.
I have often re-learned how get excited by just shooting simple stuff. Sometimes even the simplest stuff produces some amazing results.

Maybe you should start other ventures in other types of work. Try product or convention work?

yes, completely agree about the simpliest stuff .. So true. (I actually have full hard drives of simple stuff already - and - it still attracts me to experiment with some new ideas/settings/context/attitude  .. ) But, at the moment - I got to the point I want to make another step - towards shooting with people/models in a studio.

Starting a new ´professional photographer´s career´ is not my goal, in fact (or, not now/yet). The reason why I started to think about getting into photography a ´bit more´ (while still aiming to be able to produce some decent quality work/images) was actually the ´lack/limited access´ to my ´own photo resources´ for some of my post-production/concept work, actually.

Untill now I only used free stock images available on-line - provided by some photographers on artistic sites like DA, etc. - or just purchased images from photobanks .. or perhaps - after I found some image that inspired me - I just asked the photographer for permission to edit/use it for my own creative post-work/projects, if possible. (Some photographers are happy about that and agree/provide me with permission/source image, some do not like the idea of someone else editing their images - that´s something I always have a great respect for). But - though I am always happy for each single photograph any generous photographer provides me with - that dependence on other photographers´ images always is a bit too limiting.

Here´s an (just a random) example of what I am talking about.
My own concept/post-work was added to someone else´s image here.
Now - what I am after - is a chance to shoot those source images myself.
(for many good reasons).

http://www.ahdesign.cz/mm/MMdemo_by_alena_Hovorkova.jpg

In this case - I just randomly came across this image (on DA site) - which just inspired me (´right calling for´ adding some ´finishing´ post-production ´touches´ to be complete .. as I felt about it at that time). This particular image actually was provided as a free stock image resource for artists to work with, by one of the DA members - photographer Rebecca van Omen.

Though I still love clean/natural photography with minimum editing (in classical portrait photography, for example - which is something I would like to try, too), there are also some other projects in my mind - like this one, perhaps - in which photography is just a part of the some more complex workflow - just another (missing, untill now, for me) step/link in a chain. Being able to shoot my own resource-images might perhaps - as I believe - bring some more creative freedom for what I need/would like to do. Having a chance to control the entire process, from the pre-production stage (studio shooting) until the last pixel is cared of in post-work, looks like another logic/further step for me ..


> photoguy35
yes, i was also thinking about that - but after I´ve seen a few workshops around my area (just as a viewer, not attendant, I was just present at that same time/place, but by some other occasions) - I did not feel like that was something I was looking for. In all those cases there were too many photographers .. shooting one over another´s shoulder - one static model, not even being able/allowed to use/change lighitng set-up at all while shooting .. Not sure that/wheather this type of workshops can be of any ´real´ use for a photographer, in case he/she really wants to learn how to shoot .. (unless not only comming to capture some few images of a nice girl is the goal) - but that could be just those particular workshops I had a chance to watch, not all of them, I believe ..

> George Ruge
: )

Nov 28 12 12:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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Alena Hovorkova
Posts: 123
Brno, Jihomoravsky, Czech Republic


Just the last update:
finally I found my first model to shoot with - and had my first shoot (TF*),
(with my non-existent - yet - photographer´s portfolio it was not easy to find a model willing to shoot with me .. at all smile )
We spent some 3 hours shooting in the (rented) studio.

Though I was struggling many different (technical) issues while shooting, and the technical quality (focus, ligting etc.) of images I took was far from being perfect - I was pleasantly surprised by how the shooting went.

The model was just great (and very patient with me) ..
I got about 200 images - but - only a few of them actually are up to ´some´ decent/usable technical quality/standard, in fact .. Now I am trying to edit (or rather ´rescue/retrieve´ the technical mistakes I made while shooting), hopefully I manage to get some ´usable´ 10-15 images, in the end.

Though I did not expect (nor promised) much for the very first shooting session,
I enjoyed every minute, and also learnt a lot ... 
Also took your advice here and decided to attend some local workshop for beginner-photographers,  to get some basic technical experience in working with studio equippement - lights/flashes/flashmeter etc. at least, for the start.

Thanks again,
for all your advice/inputs here.
Feels good to be on the other/photographer´s side, too.
a.
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