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Bearz Images
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Asheville, North Carolina, US


Its easy to run PS & CS in Unbuntu, give it a try.
Nov 08 12 07:20 am  Link  Quote 
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AJ_In_Atlanta
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Atlanta, Georgia, US


Joann Empson wrote:

GIMP, RawTherapee, and GNU/Linux distros like Ubuntu are not freeware -- they are free software. This is an important distinction.

Freeware is software that doesn't cost any money. Free software is software that respects the four essential user freedoms.

The word free in the context of free software refers only the user freedoms and has nothing to do with monetary cost. Software released under the GNU General Public License (i.e., free software) is allowed to be sold.

Here's a real life example: Mac OS X is free software made non-free. Mac OS X is not much more than a hodgepodge of FreeBSD and OpenBSD (both free software). The BSD license allowed Apple to rebrand their prettied-up version of BSD and sell it as their own.

Developers of free software make money by being paid to develop new features for their programs, rather than from selling end user licenses.

The source of this money is typically from companies like Google, our taxes, and user donations.

Well technically Apple aquired NeXT, the company Steve formed after he was released by Apple.  It was created to produce affordable Unix workstations, granted $10k in 1988 was not really cheap.  They were a major contributor to BSD and I would not call it simply a prettied up version of FreeBSD or OpenBSD.  For starters it predates them both and they built upon NeXTs work - not the other way around.

Nov 08 12 07:35 am  Link  Quote 
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KonstantKarma
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Hickory, North Carolina, US


Bearz Images wrote:
Its easy to run PS & CS in Unbuntu, give it a try.

I've never tried running Elements on Linux, maybe I should. It's the only reason I boot to Windows.

Nov 08 12 07:37 am  Link  Quote 
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JJMiller
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Buffalo, New York, US


OT, about the Amazon/Linux thing- recently I decided to try out Amazon prime to watch streaming movies in Ubuntu (no Netflix, c'mon Mr. Shuttleworth wink ) an older movie worked, a newer one didn't, it wanted to update my flash. I contacted them, and got a response, that Linux won't be supported due to adobe not supporting Linux. Sigh.

   In regard to Lightworks and 'nix, that has been rumoured for quite some time now, we'll see if it actually happens. Anybody ever try this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint

D/L'ing now, we'll see if it runs...
Nov 08 12 09:44 am  Link  Quote 
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Joann Empson
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Walnut Creek, California, US


I just discovered that I was spectacularly wrong about OpenBSD. I should have substituted OpenBSD with NetBSD.
Nov 08 12 12:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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Joann Empson
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Walnut Creek, California, US


AJScalzitti wrote:
... I would not call it simply a prettied up version of FreeBSD or OpenBSD.

You're right. I was completely wrong to imply that Mac OS X is FreeBSD and OpenBSD and nothing more. And I was especially wrong about OpenBSD (I got it confused with NetBSD).

When Apple acquired NeXT, they forked NeXTSTEP and replaced the userland with large hunks of FreeBSD. But they kept the kernel from NeXTSTEP, which was derived from Carnegie Mellon's Mach.

Whether NeXT contributed back to BSD to a significant degree is debatable. There's a reason why they made their fork of BSD proprietary -- they didn't want to share.

Nov 08 12 12:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Joann Empson
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Walnut Creek, California, US


JJMiller wrote:
... no Netflix, c'mon Mr. Shuttleworth ...

Some more information about why Netflix, despite being a GNU/Linux house, hasn't supported GNU/Linux users: http://techrights.org/2012/10/12/netflix-changes/

Nov 09 12 12:20 am  Link  Quote 
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ShutterSpeedPhotography
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Tempe, Arizona, US


You can't play Netflix because Microsoft Silverlight isn't supported on Linux. Sure it's true that Photoshop can run pretty well on Ubuntu but I'd rather stick with Windows for the software support and no issues.

If Ubuntu had more hardware/software support I'd switch over in a heartbeat. Also I use Windows for HD games like Modern Warefare 3, Battlefield 3 etc

Linux only holds a 2% of the market because of the chicken and egg scenario. Developers don't see the point in making their software available for linux because not many people use it. A lot of people don't see the point in fully switching because of the lack of hardware/software support
Nov 09 12 06:53 am  Link  Quote 
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Kevin Connery
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El Segundo, California, US


Joann Empson wrote:

This is not the place for religious wars, especially those which are unrelated to digital arts and retouching.

Please stop.

Nov 09 12 07:36 am  Link  Quote 
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Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 9,475
Brooklyn, New York, US


Joann Empson wrote:
EDIT: In response to the controversy, Canonical has detailed the way to remove Amazon integration. A single command:

Source: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/rev … iew/page/2

WOW
Thats the kind of corporate abuse I wont tolerate(dont use Chrome due to privacy/syping issues)
Will have to rethink future Ubuntu use and look at some of the other distros
A damn shame as I had come to really like the system of the last few months
What the heck are these guys thinking ??

Nov 09 12 08:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Tony Lawrence
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Chicago, Illinois, US


Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:

WOW
Thats the kind of corporate abuse I wont tolerate(dont use Chrome due to privacy/syping issues)
Will have to rethink future Ubuntu use and look at some of the other distros
A damn shame as I had come to really like the system of the last few months
What the heck are these guys thinking ??

A distro can cost many thousands of dollars to produce.   Bandwidth so we can download it is expensive.   Linux isn't really free.   Its just free for non commercial users.   Windows 8 and Mountain Lion are not free.   Canonical is a company like Red Hat.   They charge for support but my guess is they are in need of money.  A deal with Amazon makes sense.     Maybe a yearly release instead of every six months.     Maybe they should accept advertising on their website.   Many distros have a very small team of developers.   Maybe Ubuntu could do a rolling release like Mint Debian that costs and the free one.   I don't know.   I will say if you like and use a distro then spend them some dough.

Mountain Lion is a $20.00 download.   W8 is $40.00.

Nov 09 12 09:01 am  Link  Quote 
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Brooklyn Bridge Images
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Brooklyn, New York, US


Tony Lawrence wrote:

Have to disagree with you on this one Tony
Linux is more community based like a commune of scientists/hippees/developers working for the good of all mankind..lol
Apple/Microsoft only exist to make $$$
I pay for Windows but am unhappy with all the ways they screw me over
Putting unannounced spyware/Ads in the OS is exactly the type of BS move that the evil giant greedy corporations do.
The kind of behavior I was looking to get away from.
I doubt they "need" the money
Greed is the more likely "need" here
Edit:The more I look into this Im learning how bad a blunder they have made.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/ … ource=fssr

Nov 09 12 10:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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