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So I liquidated my ipad 3 for the right price and got an ipad mini with the cash

despite what the media reported, 5 days later there are still lines at Apple stores for this thing. And there are five apple stores on this island.

from my use the resolution/display is not a drawback, unless you are on the fence regarding how much further your dollars can take you. but visually it is not a drawback. I was expecting to be annoyed by extremely large pixels or throwback clarity, but those things aren't present.

reading comics is perfect! reading was the main thing I was concerned about, I don't do it much, but now I will do it more

my lightning connector does not work. there are reports of other people having bad lightning cables and having to get that exchanged at apple. tolerable only because the ipad battery lasts like a week with sporadic use.

cheerio!
Nov 06 12 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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C. Scott Photography
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R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
reading comics is perfect! reading was the main thing I was concerned about, I don't do it much, but now I will do it more

That's the main reason I'm thinking about getting one.  Kinda ironic/sad to say, but I have a hope that I'll read more if I get an ipad mini (as if I'm somehow unable to without an apple product... bahhhhhh)

Nov 06 12 09:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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C. Scott Photography wrote:
That's the main reason I'm thinking about getting one.  Kinda ironic/sad to say, but I have a hope that I'll read more if I get an ipad mini (as if I'm somehow unable to without an apple product... bahhhhhh)

yeah the physical size of the screen was what was attractive to me, being much closer to 8 inches than other 7 inch tablets

i loved how crisp the nexus 7 was but the physical size meant more zooming in to be immersed in the text or images. and I can really go without "guided view" on these comics, in that sense I would like to experience the whole page at a time.

my vision acuity (eyesight) is 20-10 which is on the right (correct) side of the bell curve

Nov 06 12 09:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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R_Marquez
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San Francisco, California, US


I like that the Nexus 7 can fit in my pocket. I agree that the resolution in a mini is not a deal-breaker. I think the extreme high resolution on tablets is pretty useless. Even the HP Touchpad with the 1024x768 at 10" looks fine, as did the original ipads and other tablets with similar resolution.
Nov 06 12 10:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Image Works Photography
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Orlando, Florida, US


I really have no use for tablets. I used to own the HP touchpad and that was because they discontinued it and practically gave it away for $100. I never took it anywhere and sat dormant in a carry case. Luckily my daughter wanted a tablet for christmas so I gave it to her as a gift. I was at the mall this past Fri when the mini was on display at the apple store but I can tell it will also remain dormant because the size is odd. I can't fit it in my pockets like I do my android phone. Its a problem to keep it in a bag and forget it.
Nov 06 12 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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GreatMomentsPhotography wrote:
I really have no use for tablets. I used to own the HP touchpad and that was because they discontinued it and practically gave it away for $100. I never took it anywhere and sat dormant in a carry case. Luckily my daughter wanted a tablet for christmas so I gave it to her as a gift. I was at the mall this past Fri when the mini was on display at the apple store but I can tell it will also remain dormant because the size is odd. I can't fit it in my pockets like I do my android phone. Its a problem to keep it in a bag and forget it.

I use them a bit, endless entertainment

between Onlive, Twitch.tv, comics, social networks, google voice, streaming video... yeh

tablets are mainly luxury devices, being honest with yourself about their utility is the first step

Nov 06 12 10:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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websites that are much better as ipad apps:


Airbnb

Trulia

Skyscanner   [b]
Nov 06 12 10:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Twitch.tv app is highly entertaining, streaming someone's Halo 4 room

http://i49.tinypic.com/xnam0y.jpg
Nov 07 12 06:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tog
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Birmingham, Alabama, US


You sold your iPad 3 to get a shrunken iPad 2?

Interesting.
Nov 07 12 06:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
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New York, New York, US


Tog wrote:
You sold your iPad 3 to get a shrunken iPad 2?

Interesting.

yep, I didn't want that tablet anymore glad I recouped the costs

the paper app is definitely using the ipad 2 graphics

Nov 07 12 06:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Wye
Posts: 9,406
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Tog wrote:
You sold your iPad 3 to get a shrunken iPad 2?

Interesting.

sorta like selling a new pickup truck to buy a hatchback.

I'm not sure why people have a mental block when it comes to having different sizes of things.

Some people like big phones. Some people like small tablets. Neither of those things is something I'm interested in but there's nothing nonsensical about someone wanting/using such things.

Nov 07 12 08:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Miller Photoworks
Posts: 2,350
Phoenix, Arizona, US


R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
So I liquidated my ipad 3 for the right price and got an ipad mini with the cash

despite what the media reported, 5 days later there are still lines at Apple stores for this thing. And there are five apple stores on this island.

from my use the resolution/display is not a drawback, unless you are on the fence regarding how much further your dollars can take you. but visually it is not a drawback. I was expecting to be annoyed by extremely large pixels or throwback clarity, but those things aren't present.

reading comics is perfect! reading was the main thing I was concerned about, I don't do it much, but now I will do it more

my lightning connector does not work. there are reports of other people having bad lightning cables and having to get that exchanged at apple. tolerable only because the ipad battery lasts like a week with sporadic use.

cheerio!

I want it for reading comics so bad.  I've gone through an LG tablet (opens only half the comics) and a Kindle Fire (screen an eeensy bit too small to read comics) and I have no doubt that stuff works on the ipad.

Nov 07 12 08:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jason Haven
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Washington, District of Columbia, US


Tog wrote:
You sold your iPad 3 to get a shrunken iPad 2?

Interesting.

I would do the same. I've found I prefer 7ish over 10ish when it comes to media consumption tablets. There aren't any real performance differences outside of video games and processor intensive stuff.

Nov 07 12 09:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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ImageX
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I bought an IPad Mini and there were no lines. Best Buy had mine 5 days after release day. I bought a black 64g and love it. I didn't sell my regular IPad though because they each have their own place. The Mini is highly portable and crazy thin.... even in it's case.


Since I bought mine at Best Buy and I'm a Silver Rewards member with a triple point coupon..... I'm getting about $75-100 back from the purchase. Hard to "get a deal" on Apple products but I managed one. smile
Nov 08 12 01:15 am  Link  Quote 
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ImageX
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Saint Louis, Missouri, US


GreatMomentsPhotography wrote:
I really have no use for tablets. I used to own the HP touchpad and that was because they discontinued it and practically gave it away for $100. I never took it anywhere and sat dormant in a carry case. Luckily my daughter wanted a tablet for christmas so I gave it to her as a gift. I was at the mall this past Fri when the mini was on display at the apple store but I can tell it will also remain dormant because the size is odd. I can't fit it in my pockets like I do my android phone. Its a problem to keep it in a bag and forget it.

The Ipad Mini WILL slide into most pockets. I do it all the time and it's even in a case... making it larger/thicker.

Nov 08 12 01:19 am  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
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iPad mini? I thought it was an iPod Touch?
Nov 08 12 04:31 am  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
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P I X I E wrote:
iPad mini? I thought it was an iPod Touch?

http://www.apple.com/ipad/

So you can see the difference in sizes.

Nov 08 12 04:37 am  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
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j3_photo wrote:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/

So you can see the difference in sizes.

It was a joke. wink

Nov 08 12 04:38 am  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
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P I X I E wrote:

It was a joke. wink

Put winky face in your first reply! tongue..... too late haha big_smile

Nov 08 12 04:40 am  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
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j3_photo wrote:

Put winky face in your first reply! tongue..... too late haha big_smile

It's early, I forgot. Still half-awake. sad

Nov 08 12 04:43 am  Link  Quote 
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Tog
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Birmingham, Alabama, US


Wye wrote:
sorta like selling a new pickup truck to buy a hatchback.

I'm not sure why people have a mental block when it comes to having different sizes of things.

Some people like big phones. Some people like small tablets. Neither of those things is something I'm interested in but there's nothing nonsensical about someone wanting/using such things.

That's basically what I was observing.  Once upon a time, most people would not consider a step backwards in power an upgrade.  Here, form is winning over function (or potential function).

I wasn't knocking it, it's just an interesting shift in consumer habits.

Nov 08 12 05:19 am  Link  Quote 
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Tog
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ASYLUM - Photo wrote:

I would do the same. I've found I prefer 7ish over 10ish when it comes to media consumption tablets. There aren't any real performance differences outside of video games and processor intensive stuff.

I fully understand.  I just bought both a kindle paperwhite and a 13" Windows 8 convertible.  I wouldn't want to watch a movie on the kindle (even if it was LCD model vs the e-ink), but I probably wouldn't want to try to use the 13" Lenovo as a tablet (although you can) out in public.

Nov 08 12 05:21 am  Link  Quote 
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Wye
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Tog wrote:

That's basically what I was observing.  Once upon a time, most people would not consider a step backwards in power an upgrade.  Here, form is winning over function (or potential function).

I wasn't knocking it, it's just an interesting shift in consumer habits.

in this case I think it's pretty obvious that form *is* function. If someone needs/wants a smaller size because the larger one doesn't fit their needs then I think the normal distinctions don't apply.

Someone with a big family who chooses a minivan over a sports car isn't choosing form over function.

Nov 08 12 06:14 am  Link  Quote 
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Looknsee Photography
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Portland, Oregon, US


Haven't laid my hands on one yet.

So, a question:  I have a prejudice that says that when you sacrifice weight you get more fragility.  In other words, I've bought thin & light stuff in the past, and they often broke easily with (what I could consider) "normal" usage.

So, how solid is the thing?
Nov 08 12 08:08 am  Link  Quote 
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r T p
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Los Angeles, California, US


Looknsee Photography wrote:
Haven't laid my hands on one yet.

So, a question:  I have a prejudice that says that when you sacrifice weight you get more fragility.  In other words, I've bought thin & light stuff in the past, and they often broke easily with (what I could consider) "normal" usage.

So, how solid is the thing?

http://ifixit.org/3663/ipad-mini-teardown/

Nov 08 12 09:37 am  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
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Looknsee Photography wrote:
Haven't laid my hands on one yet.

So, a question:  I have a prejudice that says that when you sacrifice weight you get more fragility.  In other words, I've bought thin & light stuff in the past, and they often broke easily with (what I could consider) "normal" usage.

So, how solid is the thing?

good question, get a case which absorbs more impact if this is a concern

this thing is half a pound! big_smile more than two times lighter than the ipad 3 which is awesome btw

Nov 08 12 04:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Digitoxin
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Houston, Texas, US


In a couple years when it is time to replace the iPad 3 in my hands now, I will consider a 7" iPad.
Nov 08 12 05:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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ME_
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Atlanta, Georgia, US


I am seriously considering dropping my iPhone, which I almost never use as a phone but only for Web and texts, and instead getting a Mini with 3G (and no contract commitment) and a low-cost phone so that I have something to make calls from when necessary.

I do use my phone heavily for texting though, and I have tried texting apps that aren't tied to my actual phone number and have not been very happy with them. Does anyone know of a good one? Because then I'd probably use the Mini for texting and really keep the phone only for phone calls.

I noticed on the Apple page that it appears that Sprint includes your wifi time on the gigs-per-month data limit but Verizon and AT&T do not. Since AT&T sucks balls, I will never use them again once my current phone contract is up so that leaves Verizon or Sprint, and if Sprint counts even wifi data transfer on one's limit, then Verizon appears to be a better deal. Am I not correctly understanding how this works?
Nov 09 12 04:58 am  Link  Quote 
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ME_ wrote:
I am seriously considering dropping my iPhone, which I almost never use as a phone but only for Web and texts, and instead getting a Mini with 3G (and no contract commitment) and a low-cost phone so that I have something to make calls from when necessary.

I do use my phone heavily for texting though, and I have tried texting apps that aren't tied to my actual phone number and have not been very happy with them. Does anyone know of a good one? Because then I'd probably use the Mini for texting and really keep the phone only for phone calls.

I noticed on the Apple page that it appears that Sprint includes your wifi time on the gigs-per-month data limit but Verizon and AT&T do not. Since AT&T sucks balls, I will never use them again once my current phone contract is up so that leaves Verizon or Sprint, and if Sprint counts even wifi data transfer on one's limit, then Verizon appears to be a better deal. Am I not correctly understanding how this works?

Google Voice

Google Voice has been my main phone number for 2 years and I love that I can get the texts in multiple places or look at them/reply to them online. I think you can call from your ipad too if you wanted. There are some sort of options for using your current phone number too.

I was content with Verizon since it was no-contract.

My only gripe with Verizon ever had been the cost ON CONTRACT. which had pushed me to gsm carriers such as Tmobile or AT&T , off contract Sprint and Verizon are good deals. I was also much poorer all those years ago.

Nov 09 12 05:30 am  Link  Quote 
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ME_
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I actually have a GV number - two in fact - but I think I experienced delays, sometimes quite long, in getting texts to my GV numbers. Maybe I had my phone set up wrong. Any tips you have would be appreciated!

It just kills me to pay for all these phone minutes when I use about 50 per month. Ideally I'd love to have a Mini for Web, email, apps, the better camera, and texts if I can get it to work; and a basic phone for calling and texts if the Mini isn't handy at the moment. I see no reason to pay monthly phone charges when I hardly use the phone. If I get a no-contract iPhone, it's almost $700 - i can buy a Mini and a basic phone for far less than that, and no contract on the Mini and possibly none on the phone. For people who really use their iPhone primarily as a Web (not phone) device, it seems to me that it's a much better deal to get a Mini and any old phone.

Or, there was someone on here who said she took the SIM out of her iPhone and put in a Boost one or some other no-contract phone's card and uses it that way, for $25/month. That would be good for me too, because even though the mail app doens't work, it would work on the Mini - and no contract either!

What am I missing? This seems a no-brainer for my situation anyway.
Nov 09 12 08:37 am  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
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Buena Park, California, US


R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
So I liquidated my ipad 3 for the right price and got an ipad mini with the cash

despite what the media reported, 5 days later there are still lines at Apple stores for this thing. And there are five apple stores on this island.

from my use the resolution/display is not a drawback, unless you are on the fence regarding how much further your dollars can take you. but visually it is not a drawback. I was expecting to be annoyed by extremely large pixels or throwback clarity, but those things aren't present.

reading comics is perfect! reading was the main thing I was concerned about, I don't do it much, but now I will do it more

my lightning connector does not work. there are reports of other people having bad lightning cables and having to get that exchanged at apple. tolerable only because the ipad battery lasts like a week with sporadic use.

cheerio!

how would resolution be an issue?  Is it not a Retina display?

Nov 09 12 10:01 am  Link  Quote 
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Tog
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Birmingham, Alabama, US


Christopher Hartman wrote:

how would resolution be an issue?  Is it not a Retina display?

No.

Nov 09 12 10:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 53,743
Buena Park, California, US


Tog wrote:

No.

I'm a resolution snob.  Plus, with the prices so close to each other, an iPad 3 makes more sense.  But even then, while I love the iPad, I'd rather invest my money into a laptop.

Nov 09 12 10:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Art Silva
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Santa Barbara, California, US


Christopher Hartman wrote:

I'm a resolution snob.  Plus, with the prices so close to each other, an iPad 3 makes more sense.  But even then, while I love the iPad, I'd rather invest my money into a laptop.

Don't stop there. For just a couple hundred more of a laptop price you could get the  new high end 27" iMac, then for a bit more you get the Mac Pro... See how it works?! Marketing and price scale.

I played with the new iPad mini and did a side by side test with my iPad2 and I was impressed to the point of consolidating all my devices to just the iPad mini. I too hardly use my iPhone for calls anymore so a cheapy flip phone will do me for phone calls now and everything else in the tablet, I'll save a couple hundred on data a month by doing this. Plus the iPad mini will link with my Mac at home seamlessly and it'll fit in my pocket smile

Nov 09 12 05:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jay Farrell
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I never understood the point of an ipad mini....wouldn't an iphone and ipod do similar tasks? I still have my ipad 1, lol. Works great and paid for. tongue
Nov 09 12 05:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art Silva
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Jay Farrell wrote:
I never understood the point of an ipad mini....wouldn't an iphone and ipod do similar tasks? I still have my ipad 1, lol. Works great and paid for. tongue

4" vs. 7.9" vs. 9.7"

It just depends on your needs and portability styles

The mini does have a 1/4" border on the side (in portrait orientation) for easy one hand operation and is light and thin, so basically it's the best compromise for the larger iPad and iPhone/iPod touch.

Nov 09 12 05:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jay Farrell
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Nashville, Tennessee, US


Art Silva Photography wrote:

4" vs. 7.9" vs. 9.7"

It just depends on your needs and portability styles

The mini does have a 1/4" border on the side (in portrait orientation) for easy one hand operation and is light and thin, so basically it's the best compromise for the larger iPad and iPhone/iPod touch.

Oh ok....hmmm.....I could see it being harder to type on, how is that? I don't find the ipad too cumbersome to lug around, not sure I'd see a reason to need a mini, but I may go see one next time I'm at the Apple Store or Best Buy.

Nov 09 12 06:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art Silva
Posts: 8,878
Santa Barbara, California, US


Jay Farrell wrote:

Oh ok....hmmm.....I could see it being harder to type on, how is that? I don't find the ipad too cumbersome to lug around, not sure I'd see a reason to need a mini, but I may go see one next time I'm at the Apple Store or Best Buy.

You won't know until you have one in your hands. As for typing, after a minute or so it was no problem in both landscape and portrait mode, much easier than my iPhone with my fat thumbs wink oh and because it is an iOS device the keyboard splits on it too if you prefer.

Nov 09 12 06:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
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guys! this was my first time using iTunes backup! its marvelous!


I was wondering what happened to my apps when I restored my backup on the ipad mini (from my ipad 3)

turns out I had to redownload all the apps and all the settings and everything I had added/saved to the apps were there!

I was wondering why my gigs of storage transferred from my comp to the ipad so fast. the backup doesn't store the actual app, nice structure
Nov 09 12 08:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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ImageX
Posts: 998
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Jay Farrell wrote:
I never understood the point of an ipad mini....wouldn't an iphone and ipod do similar tasks? I still have my ipad 1, lol. Works great and paid for. tongue

Not even the same experience. The Ipad Mini is not an enlarged Itouch or Iphone. It's a shrunken Ipad and an amazing piece of tech.  I have a regular Ipad as well and it feels almost obnoxious in size/weight when holding it in one hand and the Mini in the other. I have many Ipods, an Itouch, Ipad, and Ipad Mini... and the Mini is by far the coolest of them all. It is just so thin and light while retaining plenty of screen size and that's a big part of the experience. Until you own and customize your own, it's hard to describe. Looking at one in the store does it no justice. I can't see anyone ever regretting the purchase of a Mini. The thing is just sweet as hell..... especially if you go for the 64g size and cram it full of good stuff like I did. It's just amazing that something so thin and light can pack this much entertainment.




If anyone is interested in free Itunes or Amazon gift cards.... check out the freemyapps app. You basically get points by downloading and trying certain apps out. When you get enough points, you can redeem. It only takes a few minutes each day or whenever you're bored. I just delete the apps after I try them. I almost never mess with stuff like this but it's an easy way to get the apps YOU want..... for free.   

http://m.freemyapps.com/share/url/d4eda016

Nov 09 12 10:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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