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OMarkcompa
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I asked a fellow MM member to read this forty page booklet called "Modern Money Mechanics" which was originally issued in 1961 by the Federal Reserve.

http://www.rayservers.com/images/Modern … hanics.pdf

He said that he did not have the time to read the small booklet so as a joke I thought I'd find a cartoon video and post it in that thread with a snarky comment.

I watched the animation and I was actually quite impressed with how they got the point across in a more lighthearted way.

I have longed believed that it is our own government together with a shadow government that has the citizens of the U.S. fighting one another over a shrinking piece of pie.

Many people "feel" the results of the actions of the Federal Reserve but don't really understand how it is happening.

Judge for yourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p … rwbgdtbdXE
Nov 08 12 12:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
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San Pedro, California, US


Well, the good news is that the rapture is coming soon and you won't need to worry about money or ungodly laws.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/gallery/rapture-bomb/rapture-bomb-computer.jpg
Nov 08 12 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Viking Models
Posts: 1,553
Huntington Beach, California, US


Andialu wrote:
Well, the good news is that the rapture is coming soon and you won't need to worry about money or ungodly laws.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/gallery/rapture-bomb/rapture-bomb-computer.jpg

Diversion noted.

Nov 08 12 12:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
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San Pedro, California, US


Viking Models wrote:
Diversion noted.

More of a lighthearted jab. But you can call it a diversion if you'd like. smile

Mark gets it....



Right Mark?







Mark?




Oh my God it has begun. yikes

Nov 08 12 12:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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BYS
Posts: 11,614
Paris, Île-de-France, France


the all financial system is kind of a rip off , from the creation of money to bank interests
but few people get it , that kind of video is public salubrity even if some conclusions are falses shortcuts

i posted a good article about interests and how it affect people and gouvernements budgets
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=865836

i guess people are busy celebrating change like 4 years ago
Nov 08 12 12:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


More accurately: I said I had better things to do with my time than dig up the first edition of a 40-page paper and compare it to later versions so I could answer your question about why I thought they revisions, when you could just tell me what sort of revisions you were referring to. I don't recall you taking me up on that.

Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
Nov 08 12 12:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
Posts: 40,482
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


Hall Photo wrote:
Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?

I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.

Nov 08 12 12:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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kickfight
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Portland, Oregon, US


At 4:50, "Behold, a black horse" (Revelation 6:5, ESV) in reference to credit cards. lol
Nov 08 12 12:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
Posts: 40,482
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


Andialu wrote:

More of a lighthearted jab. But you can call it a diversion if you'd like. smile

Mark gets it....



Right Mark?







Mark?




Oh my God it has begun. yikes

I guess if you believe in a rapture it's funny.  IDK.

Nov 08 12 12:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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BYS
Posts: 11,614
Paris, Île-de-France, France


OMarkcompa wrote:

I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.

hall is a bit right if the watcher know already about money mechanism , as i said few people are aware of the system then i agree with you , the system is easy to get there , enough pedagogical in my concern

Nov 08 12 12:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Hall Photo wrote:
Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
OMarkcompa wrote:
I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.

So you do not think the Rothschilds are pulling the strings?

"International Jewish conspiracy" makes for some pretty foul bathwater. It's unlikely there's even a baby in there.

Nov 08 12 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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kickfight
Posts: 23,008
Portland, Oregon, US


Hall Photo wrote:
Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
OMarkcompa wrote:
I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
Hall Photo wrote:
So you do not think the Rothschilds are pulling the strings?

"International Jewish conspiracy" makes for some pretty foul bathwater. It's unlikely there's even a baby in there.

Let's not mince words.

It's Protocols of the Elders of Zion sold in baby food jars.

Nov 08 12 12:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
Posts: 16,661
Billings, Montana, US


kickfight wrote:
At 4:50, "Behold, a black horse" (Revelation 6:5, ESV) in reference to credit cards. lol

Are you sure it didn't mean...

Obama?

Surely John saw the light framed former ACLU lawyer and community organizer in his apocalyptic visions...

Nov 08 12 01:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
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Los Angeles, California, US


I have lots of projects in the works. I am working on a mainstream movie or two, and a political advocacy video on the Federal Reserve. It is an animated movie. With or without this trial, I was not planning  on doing a lot of porn. The trial did not change my mix of work, if that is what you are interested in.

big_smile

http://www.goldplateddoor.com/2010/08/2 … and-plans/
Nov 08 12 01:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I remember it being pretty bad on the actual particulars of the Fed and central banking as well. But admittedly, the only specifics I can remember are the Rothschild bits and apocryphal Founding Fathers quotes, which I'm pretty sure were all fabrications.

If you really believe that understanding central banking and the Federal Reserve is critical (and I agree -- believe me, I've read a bit more than 40 pages on the topic), then there's not much of a shortcut. Crack a money and banking textbook. The standard, available used:

Edit: Linked wrong edition. Used older editions available for less: http://www.amazon.com/Economics-Money-B … 217&sr=1-2
Nov 08 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
Posts: 40,482
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


Hall Photo wrote:
Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
OMarkcompa wrote:
I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
Hall Photo wrote:
So you do not think the Rothschilds are pulling the strings?

.

No.  Nor do I think it's the Illuminati, the Rockefellers, Etc.

Nov 08 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
Posts: 40,482
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


Hall Photo wrote:
I remember it being pretty bad on the actual particulars of the Fed and central banking as well. But admittedly, the only specifics I can remember are the Rothschild bits and apocryphal Founding Fathers quotes, which I'm pretty sure were all fabrications.

If you really believe that understanding central banking and the Federal Reserve is critical (and I agree -- believe me, I've read a bit more than 40 pages on the topic), then there's not much of a shortcut. Crack a money and banking textbook. The standard, available used:

Edit: Linked wrong edition. Used older editions available for less: http://www.amazon.com/Economics-Money-B … 217&sr=1-2

Written by an insider.  It must be true.

Nov 08 12 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
Written by an insider.  It must be true.

You can choose another. The disadvantage of this one is that you might feel he's too close to his subject. The advantage is that he knows what he's talking about. It's a hefty advantage for a technical subject.

Nov 08 12 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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kickfight
Posts: 23,008
Portland, Oregon, US


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
I have lots of projects in the works. I am working on a mainstream movie or two, and a political advocacy video on the Federal Reserve. It is an animated movie. With or without this trial, I was not planning  on doing a lot of porn. The trial did not change my mix of work, if that is what you are interested in.

big_smile

http://www.goldplateddoor.com/2010/08/2 … and-plans/

Interesting!

Stagliano espouses a libertarian political philosophy, and has been a significant financial contributor to the Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation, both libertarian think tanks.

On April 8, 2008, Evil Angel and Stagliano were indicted on federal obscenity charges by a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C.

On April 14, 2008, Stagliano launched a website, DefendOurPorn.org to post articles, news, and updates regarding the court proceedings.

On July 16, 2010, a federal trial began in Washington, D.C. with Stagliano as defendant, but all charges were dismissed with the judge saying the evidence linking Stagliano to the production and distribution of two DVD videos "woefully insufficient".


source

Nov 08 12 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
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Royal Oak, Michigan, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
Written by an insider.  It must be true.
Hall Photo wrote:
You can choose another. The disadvantage of this one is that you might feel he's too close to his subject. The advantage is that he knows what he's talking about. It's a hefty advantage for a technical subject.

That sounds a bit like circular logic. 

Tell you what, why don't you take us step by step through the animation and point out all the flaws?

Nov 08 12 01:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
Posts: 40,482
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


kickfight wrote:

Interesting!

Stagliano espouses a libertarian political philosophy, and has been a significant financial contributor to the Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation, both libertarian think tanks.

On April 8, 2008, Evil Angel and Stagliano were indicted on federal obscenity charges by a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C.

On April 14, 2008, Stagliano launched a website, DefendOurPorn.org to post articles, news, and updates regarding the court proceedings.

On July 16, 2010, a federal trial began in Washington, D.C. with Stagliano as defendant, but all charges were dismissed with the judge saying the evidence linking Stagliano to the production and distribution of two DVD videos "woefully insufficient".


source

Well, at least they didn't have him killed.

Nov 08 12 01:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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kickfight
Posts: 23,008
Portland, Oregon, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
Well, at least they didn't have him killed.

Breitbart should have done porn. He'd still BE ALIVE!!!

Nov 08 12 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
That sounds a bit like circular logic.

Don't think so.

OMarkcompa wrote:
Tell you what, why don't you take us step by step through the animation and point out all the flaws?

Off to see better movies at the moment. For now, here's what I said the first time:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st17546106

Nov 08 12 01:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 27,952
Los Angeles, California, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
Tell you what, why don't you take us step by step through the animation and point out all the flaws?

In my professional opinion it was actually pretty well animated. For its style.

Nov 08 12 02:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
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Royal Oak, Michigan, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
That sounds a bit like circular logic.
Hall Photo wrote:
Don't think so.

Really?  The guy worked for the Federal Reserve.

Nov 08 12 02:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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OMarkcompa
Posts: 40,482
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


Hall Photo wrote:
Off to see better movies at the moment.

Is that code for "going to check in with the overlords?"

Nov 08 12 02:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


OMarkcompa wrote:
Is that code for "going to check in with the overlords?"

It's English for cinema. I wasn't trying to trick you (this time).

Anyhow, on with the show:

Semantic quibble: Money does not equal debt. Debt is denominated in terms of money, and banks multiply money through the fractional reserve system, but money is not intrinsically debt. Nobody incurs a debt when you find a $20 bill on the ground.

I think it's abundantly clear by now that banks don't make money through loans to bad credit risks (at least, not indefinitely). This bit is kind of contradicted by the later acknowledgment of the existence of bank runs.

Most Federal Reserve banks offer tours. Congress can audit the Fed's books at will.

As noted in the other thread: The Federal Reserve is not a private institution, and it does not create money by loaning it to banks (it purchases assets). It has the majority of its board appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, its charter was drawn up and is subject to change by Congress, and it's forced to turn over all its profits to the Treasury. If that were at all similar to Federal Express, this would be the Soviet Union.

Then begins the long conspiracy theory about the Rothschilds being in control of England, and eventually the Federal Reserve, that takes up or is referenced for most of the movie.

Many of the quotes from American history are spurious, including, for example, the one Jefferson speaks when the title reads, "Yes. He actually said this."

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferso … -quotation

The Jekyll Island meeting took place years after the panic that convinced the country it needed a reformed financial system, and years before the Federal Reserve Act was signed. The cartoon skips over the extensive public debate over the Act, and implies that "most of the Congress" was at home and the bill somehow passed straight to Woodrow Wilson. The vast majority of Congress did indeed vote on it.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fr … 946296D6CF

This covers Executive Order 11110, supposedly responsible for the Kennedy assassination (sigh):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_ … acy_theory

Nov 08 12 08:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
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New York, New York, US


Lol the federal reserve... There are real pros and cons but it isn't run by lizards and demons


The PROBLEM is that the federal reserve banks are private sector corporations and mostly privately held corporations. They vote on the federal reserves monetary policy, and the federal agency called the board of governors simply tells congress what the summary is. The problem is that there are little to no reportingn requirements for these banks, such as who their shareholders are, who their officers are. They could be subsidiaries of al quada for all we know. And yes, some of the banks are foreign banks. So the votes have the potential to be about self interest instead of American interest. Congress has tried to remedy this by introducing some reporting requirements for foreign fed reserve banks added after 1970, but of course if you are concerned about rothschilds then they will already be in the fed reserve system by that time.

Secondly the federal reserve act 13(3) allows for unlimited extension of credit to federal reserve banks. This means money from and hedged by the American tax payer.

These are the problems and risks associated with the federal reserve. Not lizards or mutant Jews.

Have a good day.
Nov 08 12 08:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Hall Photo
Posts: 12,331
Boston, Massachusetts, US


R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
They vote on the federal reserves monetary policy, and the federal agency called the board of governors simply tells congress what the summary is.

The Board of Governors has more votes than the sum of District Banks, and all the Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
The problem is that there are little to no reportingn requirements for these banks, such as who their shareholders are, who their officers are. They could be subsidiaries of al quada for all we know. And yes, some of the banks are foreign banks. So the votes have the potential to be about self interest instead of American interest. Congress has tried to remedy this by introducing some reporting requirements for foreign fed reserve banks added after 1970, but of course if you are concerned about rothschilds then they will already be in the fed reserve system by that time.

This is subject to audit. For lists, google "state member banks".

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
Secondly the federal reserve act 13(3) allows for unlimited extension of credit to federal reserve banks. This means money from and hedged by the American tax payer.

It's money called up from nothing, not from the American taxpayer. And this is a feature (enabling the Fed to act as lender of last resort), not a bug.

Nov 08 12 09:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
Posts: 15,867
New York, New York, US


Hall Photo wrote:

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
They vote on the federal reserves monetary policy, and the federal agency called the board of governors simply tells congress what the summary is.

The Board of Governors has more votes than the sum of District Banks, and all the Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.


This is subject to audit. For lists, google "state member banks".


It's money called up from nothing, not from the American taxpayer. And this is a feature (enabling the Fed to act as lender of last resort), not a bug.

1) okay about the board of governors

2) subject to audit doesn't mean full disclosure of everyone involve, for every kind of entity, their interests

unless it doe

3) hedged by the american tax payer


but regardless I'm fine with the structure, I don't actually care if the Rothschilds have ownership as I'm quite a fan of the problems they attempted to solve and how successful that became. great role model IMO, great way to make a living

Nov 09 12 06:20 am  Link  Quote 
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