He said that he did not have the time to read the small booklet so as a joke I thought I'd find a cartoon video and post it in that thread with a snarky comment.
I watched the animation and I was actually quite impressed with how they got the point across in a more lighthearted way.
I have longed believed that it is our own government together with a shadow government that has the citizens of the U.S. fighting one another over a shrinking piece of pie.
Many people "feel" the results of the actions of the Federal Reserve but don't really understand how it is happening.
the all financial system is kind of a rip off , from the creation of money to bank interests
but few people get it , that kind of video is public salubrity even if some conclusions are falses shortcuts
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More accurately: I said I had better things to do with my time than dig up the first edition of a 40-page paper and compare it to later versions so I could answer your question about why I thought they revisions, when you could just tell me what sort of revisions you were referring to. I don't recall you taking me up on that.
Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
Hall Photo wrote: Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
hall is a bit right if the watcher know already about money mechanism , as i said few people are aware of the system then i agree with you , the system is easy to get there , enough pedagogical in my concern
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Hall Photo wrote: Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
OMarkcompa wrote: I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
So you do not think the Rothschilds are pulling the strings?
"International Jewish conspiracy" makes for some pretty foul bathwater. It's unlikely there's even a baby in there.
Hall Photo wrote: Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
OMarkcompa wrote: I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
Hall Photo wrote: So you do not think the Rothschilds are pulling the strings?
"International Jewish conspiracy" makes for some pretty foul bathwater. It's unlikely there's even a baby in there.
I have lots of projects in the works. I am working on a mainstream movie or two, and a political advocacy video on the Federal Reserve. It is an animated movie. With or without this trial, I was not planning on doing a lot of porn. The trial did not change my mix of work, if that is what you are interested in.
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I remember it being pretty bad on the actual particulars of the Fed and central banking as well. But admittedly, the only specifics I can remember are the Rothschild bits and apocryphal Founding Fathers quotes, which I'm pretty sure were all fabrications.
If you really believe that understanding central banking and the Federal Reserve is critical (and I agree -- believe me, I've read a bit more than 40 pages on the topic), then there's not much of a shortcut. Crack a money and banking textbook. The standard, available used:
Hall Photo wrote: Now on to this: Sigh, I was afraid this was the cartoon you were referring to. To be fair, I have better things to do than watch this kind of crap, but I was bored when I first saw it posted. Aside from the facts it gets wrong, were you not put off by the video's anti-Semitism? Or do you think the Rothschild family is actually pulling the Federal Reserve's strings?
OMarkcompa wrote: I think oftentimes the truth gets buried behind a few inaccuracies but the baby shouldn't be thrown out with the dirty bathwater.
Hall Photo wrote: So you do not think the Rothschilds are pulling the strings?
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No. Nor do I think it's the Illuminati, the Rockefellers, Etc.
Hall Photo wrote: I remember it being pretty bad on the actual particulars of the Fed and central banking as well. But admittedly, the only specifics I can remember are the Rothschild bits and apocryphal Founding Fathers quotes, which I'm pretty sure were all fabrications.
If you really believe that understanding central banking and the Federal Reserve is critical (and I agree -- believe me, I've read a bit more than 40 pages on the topic), then there's not much of a shortcut. Crack a money and banking textbook. The standard, available used:
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OMarkcompa wrote: Written by an insider. It must be true.
You can choose another. The disadvantage of this one is that you might feel he's too close to his subject. The advantage is that he knows what he's talking about. It's a hefty advantage for a technical subject.
NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: I have lots of projects in the works. I am working on a mainstream movie or two, and a political advocacy video on the Federal Reserve. It is an animated movie. With or without this trial, I was not planning on doing a lot of porn. The trial did not change my mix of work, if that is what you are interested in.
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On July 16, 2010, a federal trial began in Washington, D.C. with Stagliano as defendant, but all charges were dismissed with the judge saying the evidence linking Stagliano to the production and distribution of two DVD videos "woefully insufficient".
OMarkcompa wrote: Written by an insider. It must be true.
Hall Photo wrote: You can choose another. The disadvantage of this one is that you might feel he's too close to his subject. The advantage is that he knows what he's talking about. It's a hefty advantage for a technical subject.
That sounds a bit like circular logic.
Tell you what, why don't you take us step by step through the animation and point out all the flaws?
Stagliano espouses a libertarian political philosophy, and has been a significant financial contributor to the Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation, both libertarian think tanks.
On April 8, 2008, Evil Angel and Stagliano were indicted on federal obscenity charges by a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C.
On April 14, 2008, Stagliano launched a website, DefendOurPorn.org to post articles, news, and updates regarding the court proceedings.
On July 16, 2010, a federal trial began in Washington, D.C. with Stagliano as defendant, but all charges were dismissed with the judge saying the evidence linking Stagliano to the production and distribution of two DVD videos "woefully insufficient".
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OMarkcompa wrote: Is that code for "going to check in with the overlords?"
It's English for cinema. I wasn't trying to trick you (this time).
Anyhow, on with the show:
Semantic quibble: Money does not equal debt. Debt is denominated in terms of money, and banks multiply money through the fractional reserve system, but money is not intrinsically debt. Nobody incurs a debt when you find a $20 bill on the ground.
I think it's abundantly clear by now that banks don't make money through loans to bad credit risks (at least, not indefinitely). This bit is kind of contradicted by the later acknowledgment of the existence of bank runs.
Most Federal Reserve banks offer tours. Congress can audit the Fed's books at will.
As noted in the other thread: The Federal Reserve is not a private institution, and it does not create money by loaning it to banks (it purchases assets). It has the majority of its board appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, its charter was drawn up and is subject to change by Congress, and it's forced to turn over all its profits to the Treasury. If that were at all similar to Federal Express, this would be the Soviet Union.
Then begins the long conspiracy theory about the Rothschilds being in control of England, and eventually the Federal Reserve, that takes up or is referenced for most of the movie.
Many of the quotes from American history are spurious, including, for example, the one Jefferson speaks when the title reads, "Yes. He actually said this."
The Jekyll Island meeting took place years after the panic that convinced the country it needed a reformed financial system, and years before the Federal Reserve Act was signed. The cartoon skips over the extensive public debate over the Act, and implies that "most of the Congress" was at home and the bill somehow passed straight to Woodrow Wilson. The vast majority of Congress did indeed vote on it.
Lol the federal reserve... There are real pros and cons but it isn't run by lizards and demons
The PROBLEM is that the federal reserve banks are private sector corporations and mostly privately held corporations. They vote on the federal reserves monetary policy, and the federal agency called the board of governors simply tells congress what the summary is. The problem is that there are little to no reportingn requirements for these banks, such as who their shareholders are, who their officers are. They could be subsidiaries of al quada for all we know. And yes, some of the banks are foreign banks. So the votes have the potential to be about self interest instead of American interest. Congress has tried to remedy this by introducing some reporting requirements for foreign fed reserve banks added after 1970, but of course if you are concerned about rothschilds then they will already be in the fed reserve system by that time.
Secondly the federal reserve act 13(3) allows for unlimited extension of credit to federal reserve banks. This means money from and hedged by the American tax payer.
These are the problems and risks associated with the federal reserve. Not lizards or mutant Jews.
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R A V E N D R I V E wrote: They vote on the federal reserves monetary policy, and the federal agency called the board of governors simply tells congress what the summary is.
The Board of Governors has more votes than the sum of District Banks, and all the Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
R A V E N D R I V E wrote: The problem is that there are little to no reportingn requirements for these banks, such as who their shareholders are, who their officers are. They could be subsidiaries of al quada for all we know. And yes, some of the banks are foreign banks. So the votes have the potential to be about self interest instead of American interest. Congress has tried to remedy this by introducing some reporting requirements for foreign fed reserve banks added after 1970, but of course if you are concerned about rothschilds then they will already be in the fed reserve system by that time.
This is subject to audit. For lists, google "state member banks".
R A V E N D R I V E wrote: Secondly the federal reserve act 13(3) allows for unlimited extension of credit to federal reserve banks. This means money from and hedged by the American tax payer.
It's money called up from nothing, not from the American taxpayer. And this is a feature (enabling the Fed to act as lender of last resort), not a bug.
R A V E N D R I V E wrote: They vote on the federal reserves monetary policy, and the federal agency called the board of governors simply tells congress what the summary is.
The Board of Governors has more votes than the sum of District Banks, and all the Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
This is subject to audit. For lists, google "state member banks".
It's money called up from nothing, not from the American taxpayer. And this is a feature (enabling the Fed to act as lender of last resort), not a bug.
1) okay about the board of governors
2) subject to audit doesn't mean full disclosure of everyone involve, for every kind of entity, their interests
unless it doe
3) hedged by the american tax payer
but regardless I'm fine with the structure, I don't actually care if the Rothschilds have ownership as I'm quite a fan of the problems they attempted to solve and how successful that became. great role model IMO, great way to make a living