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Sarah Robinson-Bird
Posts: 539
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom


Arranging a shoot for next weekend and the photographer has kindly offered to do some shots for me of my ideas along with his original casting requirements.

Except I'm having a mental block as to what I could really do with in my portfolio. The photographer has a portfolio full of what I'd call fantasy images, there's elements of masquerade, horror, costumery and such. While it's not necessary that I do something like that, it would be cool to play up to the photographers skills to really get some good images out of it, plus the shoot will be on a green screen so I'm guessing it will take on a theme similar to his previous work.

So my question is, as the title suggests, what am I missing from my portfolio or what would benefit it?

Ps the photographer is MM #161904 if you want to see his work
Nov 10 12 11:38 am  Link  Quote 
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Thyronne
Posts: 1,355
Huntington Beach, California, US


That's a hard question to answer as I don't see any focus or direction in your portfolio.  Your photos are all over the place.  It seems the guy you're shooting with is gong to give you more interesting and higher quality images than you now have, but again, they're going to jet off on another tangent.  I think you need to decide what you want from your modeling, define who your look appeals to and then make a conscious decision to work with photographers and other collaborators who can help you achieve this.
Nov 10 12 11:52 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Sarah Robinson-Bird
Posts: 539
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom


Thyronne wrote:
That's a hard question to answer as I don't see any focus or direction in your portfolio.  Your photos are all over the place.  It seems the guy you're shooting with is gong to give you more interesting and higher quality images than you now have, but again, they're going to jet off on another tangent.  I think you need to decide what you want from your modeling, define who your look appeals to and then make a conscious decision to work with photographers and other collaborators who can help you achieve this.

That's a very interesting thought. I never really looked at it that way so thank you for pointing it out! Since I started I've been aiming for variety.

Out of interest, do you see any particular direction being more prominent or is it really all over the place?

Nov 10 12 11:58 am  Link  Quote 
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SSR Designs
Posts: 471
Bartlesville, Oklahoma, US


I personally am a fan of diversity in a portfolio if you are trying to appeal to a wider audience and trying to get bookings.

That being said I think two things

1. I think from a diversity standpoint adding some high quality fantasy to your port would be a good touch

2. from a streamlining approach I think the your strongest assets are in your art and art nude photos.

Like this one
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30057027
Nov 10 12 12:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sarah Robinson-Bird
Posts: 539
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom


SSR Designs wrote:
I personally am a fan of diversity in a portfolio if you are trying to appeal to a wider audience and trying to get bookings.

That being said I think two things

1. I think from a diversity standpoint adding some high quality fantasy to your port would be a good touch

2. from a streamlining approach I think the your strongest assets are in your art and art nude photos.

Like this one
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30057027

Thank you, thats also very helpful

To satisfy both the need for variety and the need for focus on my strength, perhaps a variety of different looks still within the art nude genre? Not just black and white nudes but all sorts of different themes whilst still being art nude. This is making more sense in my head than in writing...

Nov 10 12 12:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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SSR Designs
Posts: 471
Bartlesville, Oklahoma, US


Actually being one that things just like you...it made perfect sense to me.  And yes I think that line of thinking is just what you are after. smile
Nov 10 12 12:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


I don't mean this in a negative way but I don't think your portfolio is developed enough to speak to any specific style. That might be part of the confusion you're having about what you need.

First, you need quality images that best represent YOU. THEN, you can get a feel for your modeling and what most interests you. Right now your portfolio needs everything because it lacks direction. And that's fine...that's something that will develop as you get more shoots under your belt. Maybe you'll find that you love the style this photographer shoots and venture more in that direction after this shoot.

What I wouldn't do is take away from what he's doing to have him do something he may not be comfortable (I didn't view the portfolio). For example, if he shoots fantasy/green screen work do you want to interrupt that for him to shoot some headshots outside? Probably not.

Some models know what they want to pursue before their first shoot. If they have the build for fashion, or aspire to agency work, etc. And some like yourself develop a look and style.

Variety isn't bad when you're trying to find your voice. But just make sure every shot you add to your portfolio is an upgrade in quality because that's far more important than the style you're shooting.
Nov 10 12 12:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Azimuth Arts
Posts: 1,486
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Sarah Robinson-Bird wrote:
That's a very interesting thought. I never really looked at it that way so thank you for pointing it out! Since I started I've been aiming for variety.

Out of interest, do you see any particular direction being more prominent or is it really all over the place?

Sarah,

From my perspective I too could not find a focus in your work.  You have some shots that I think were probably aiming for glamour but I don't think they really made it.  You expressions are pretty much one note, and don't really sell that sexiness required in glamour.  And the photography in most of them was average at best (I won't provide specific critique on the photographers work since they did not ask for it)

You have a beautiful face and great curvy body. 

If I would suggest one area for you to perfect it would be art nude.  I think you are close, but of course will need to get comfortable in a range of poses.  You could also continue to work on glamour poses - really concentrate on how you connect to the camera/audience.  You will also need to pay special attention to the poses that work for your body type.

In the end concentrate on shoots that will show of your ability to model.  That means work on posing, expressions, and make sure the images capture you well.  Shoots with lots of makeup, or significant post work like many fantasy shoots may make for beautiful images, but they won't show other photographers what you can really do.

All the best,

Just my $0.02.

Nov 10 12 12:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sarah Robinson-Bird
Posts: 539
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom


Thanks guys, I'm taking notes!
Nov 10 12 12:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sarah Robinson-Bird
Posts: 539
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom


Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I don't mean this in a negative way but I don't think your portfolio is developed enough to speak to any specific style. That might be part of the confusion you're having about what you need.

First, you need quality images that best represent YOU. THEN, you can get a feel for your modeling and what most interests you. Right now your portfolio needs everything because it lacks direction. And that's fine...that's something that will develop as you get more shoots under your belt. Maybe you'll find that you love the style this photographer shoots and venture more in that direction after this shoot.

What I wouldn't do is take away from what he's doing to have him do something he may not be comfortable (I didn't view the portfolio). For example, if he shoots fantasy/green screen work do you want to interrupt that for him to shoot some headshots outside? Probably not.

Some models know what they want to pursue before their first shoot. If they have the build for fashion, or aspire to agency work, etc. And some like yourself develop a look and style.

Variety isn't bad when you're trying to find your voice. But just make sure every shot you add to your portfolio is an upgrade in quality because that's far more important than the style you're shooting.

Dont worry about sounding negative. I feel you're all hitting the nail right on the head and kicking myself for not spotting it on my own accord.

I definitely agree with what you're saying regarding the photographer and not going outside his strengths. I'm getting the vibe that I should maybe explore an art nude theme but with his fantasy twist

Nov 10 12 12:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Thyronne
Posts: 1,355
Huntington Beach, California, US


Sarah Robinson-Bird wrote:

That's a very interesting thought. I never really looked at it that way so thank you for pointing it out! Since I started I've been aiming for variety.

Out of interest, do you see any particular direction being more prominent or is it really all over the place?

Variety is a great thing, but it should still be a part of a whole.   I wouldn't just come on here and say someone's portfolio sucks, but since you asked what was missing, I looked at it and thought about what I would want to see.  What I see is someone who hasn't really found herself, which is fine, we've all been there.  Given your age and build, fashion editorial isn't an option and I don't know the market where you live to even begin to make suggestions as to what other avenues are commercially viable.  Seeing how comfortable you are in front of the camera, and your interest in variety and burlesque, you should probably explore nude/art modeling.  Find some people who's work speaks to you nearby and start contacting them.  More than anything, I'd like to see a portfolio that seemed more like a body of work than a bunch of random photos and I think working with more talented photographers will help immensely.  I can tell you have a nice face, but you don't have a great headshot.  It's obvious you can convey mood and confidence, but you don't have a great body shot or a shot that make me want to stop and really take a closer look.  Only work with people who's work will make your portfolio better.  You can tell them you need a great headshot or a great body shot and see what they come up with.  You may not get one on every shoot, but you should always strive for it.

Nov 10 12 01:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sarah Robinson-Bird
Posts: 539
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom


Thyronne wrote:

Variety is a great thing, but it should still be a part of a whole.   I wouldn't just come on here and say someone's portfolio sucks, but since you asked what was missing, I looked at it and thought about what I would want to see.  What I see is someone who hasn't really found herself, which is fine, we've all been there.  Given your age and build, fashion editorial isn't an option and I don't know the market where you live to even begin to make suggestions as to what other avenues are commercially viable.  Seeing how comfortable you are in front of the camera, and your interest in variety and burlesque, you should probably explore nude/art modeling.  Find some people who's work speaks to you nearby and start contacting them.  More than anything, I'd like to see a portfolio that seemed more like a body of work than a bunch of random photos and I think working with more talented photographers will help immensely.  I can tell you have a nice face, but you don't have a great headshot.  It's obvious you can convey mood and confidence, but you don't have a great body shot or a shot that make me want to stop and really take a closer look.  Only work with people who's work will make your portfolio better.  You can tell them you need a great headshot or a great body shot and see what they come up with.  You may not get one on every shoot, but you should always strive for it.

That's fantastic, thank you for explaining

Nov 10 12 01:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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