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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
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Los Angeles, California, US


Disturbing allegations

http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/12/elmo-kevi … legations/


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Accuser recants

http://boingboing.net/2012/11/13/child- … tions.html


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Following last week's underage sex scandal, Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash has decided to step down from his 28-year position at Sesame Street. A statement was released by Sesame Workshop on Clash's behalf.

http://boingboing.net/2012/11/20/clash- … treet.html
Nov 12 12 10:34 am  Link  Quote 
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QuietAsKept
Posts: 5,935
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Awwww, damn! That's all I have to say. hmm
Nov 12 12 10:37 am  Link  Quote 
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Carlos Occidental
Posts: 10,546
Glendora, California, US


(misread title)
Nov 12 12 10:48 am  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,778
Los Angeles, California, US


Carlos Occidental wrote:
(misread title)

Street, not Saint.

I see what you mean.

Nov 12 12 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Carlos Occidental
Posts: 10,546
Glendora, California, US


Hehe.  I always respond before thinking or reading.
Nov 12 12 10:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


Carlos Occidental wrote:
(misread title)

So did I. I was picturing Rob Lowe as Oscar the Grouch.

Nov 12 12 11:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Reflected
Posts: 16,049
New York, New York, US


"Officials also tell us they're suspicious because the accuser has an email which TMZ obtained -- purportedly sent to him by Clash, acknowledging they had the affair when he was 16. The officials say the accuser never mentioned such an email existed and they believe it's fraudulent."
Nov 12 12 11:59 am  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Willingham
Posts: 21,859
Long Beach, California, US


I really so hope this is some sick and twisted smear campaign, because if this were true - it is just a nightmare...  The kids ain't even safe on Sesame Street!
Nov 12 12 12:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,778
Los Angeles, California, US


Art of CIP wrote:
I really so hope this is some sick and twisted smear campaign, because if this were true - it is just a nightmare...  The kids ain't even safe on Sesame Street!

Smear against the individual? If it were somehow part of a larger anti-PBS thing they should have done it before the election.

Nov 12 12 12:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Smear against the individual? If it were somehow part of a larger anti-PBS thing they should have done it before the election.

Not saying this is a smear, but if you're going to go up that alley...

The GOP has an ongoing war with PBS. They fully expected a Romney win and with his inauguration, PBS would have soon gotten choked out. But their boy got whupped, so the GOP might have tried a post-election smear to undermine PBS' reputation. Their war goes on.

Like I said, I'm not saying it's a smear. I just wouldn't put it past the GOP to pull something like that.

Nov 12 12 12:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,778
Los Angeles, California, US


I guess we'll see what happens.

In the meantime, there's a nice documentary about him I saw on Netflix

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Being … cale=en-US
Nov 12 12 12:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47,528
Olympia, Washington, US


Art of CIP wrote:
I really so hope this is some sick and twisted smear campaign, because if this were true - it is just a nightmare...  The kids ain't even safe on Sesame Street!

The article never said he molested kids.

He said the guy(now 23) and him had consensual sex - not denied by any party.

The question is when they started having sex.

Nov 12 12 12:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


UnoMundo wrote:

The article never said he molested kids.

He said the guy(now 23) and him had consensual sex - not denied by any party.

The question is when they started having sex.

Since a minor can't give consent, can't have consentual sex with a minor.

Nov 12 12 01:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47,528
Olympia, Washington, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:

Since a minor can't give consent, can't have consentual sex with a minor.

It is a he said/he said about when.

Nov 12 12 01:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,778
Los Angeles, California, US


Nov 13 12 03:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 8,223
Los Angeles, California, US


Nothing to see here...Everything is  A OK. Move on. Over and Out. All parties are back to normal.
Nov 13 12 03:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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R80
Posts: 2,567
Marceline, Missouri, US


http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2012/ … nship?lite


So the accuser was 16 at the time, and Clash was about 45.  According to Clash, they were "consenting adults".  When did 16 become "adult"?

Sounds more like some dirty old man latching onto a young boy for fun and games.

Should've kept his hands on Elmo and not messed with little Mr. Willy.  I'm guessing there was probably an out of court settlement of a good size.
Nov 13 12 11:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 8,223
Los Angeles, California, US


R80 wrote:
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2012/ … nship?lite


So the accuser was 16 at the time, and Clash was about 45.  According to Clash, they were "consenting adults".  When did 16 become "adult"?

Sounds more like some dirty old man latching onto a young boy for fun and games.

Should've kept his hands on Elmo and not messed with little Mr. Willy.  I'm guessing there was probably an out of court settlement of a good size.

I am guessing you are 100% wrong......People like you..should never be on jury's. Just the facts Ma'am. Before you know all the facts you push a guy underneath the bus!

http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2012/ … nship?lite

Nov 14 12 08:18 am  Link  Quote 
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BrooklynHill
Posts: 4,790
Los Angeles, California, US


R80 wrote:
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2012/ … nship?lite


So the accuser was 16 at the time, and Clash was about 45.  According to Clash, they were "consenting adults".  When did 16 become "adult"?

Sounds more like some dirty old man latching onto a young boy for fun and games.

Should've kept his hands on Elmo and not messed with little Mr. Willy.  I'm guessing there was probably an out of court settlement of a good size.

16 is the most common age of consent in the U.S.  30 states set 16 years of age of the "age of consent.

Nov 14 12 09:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


http://biopearco.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/age-of-consent-map-usa.jpg
Nov 14 12 05:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,778
Los Angeles, California, US


BrooklynHill wrote:
16 is the most common age of consent in the U.S.  30 states set 16 years of age of the "age of consent.

TMZ is also saying that a second man claims a phone relationship began when he was 15 and Clash was 32.

http://boingboing.net/2012/11/20/clash- … treet.html

Nov 20 12 09:10 am  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
Posts: 14,029
San Pedro, California, US


http://i46.tinypic.com/2irk6zq.jpg
Nov 20 12 09:51 am  Link  Quote 
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Ashes to Ashes
Posts: 3,784
Norway, Maine, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:
Since a minor can't give consent, can't have consentual sex with a minor.

Thats bullshit...Minors give consent all the time, its just not seen as "valid" consent.

Nov 20 12 12:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
Posts: 14,029
San Pedro, California, US


Ashes to Ashes wrote:
Thats bullshit...Minors give consent all the time, its just seen as "valid" consent.

He means legally. And he's correct.

Nov 20 12 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
Posts: 17,297
Billings, Montana, US


The relationship lasted 7 years...

If anything, it should be classified as the first Gay Common Law Marriage.
Nov 20 12 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ashes to Ashes
Posts: 3,784
Norway, Maine, US


Andialu wrote:
He means legally. And he's correct.

smile I meant to put "not seen" instead of just "seen"

Nov 20 12 12:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
Posts: 14,029
San Pedro, California, US


Ashes to Ashes wrote:

smile I meant to put "not seen" instead of just "seen"

Gotcha. lol

Nov 20 12 12:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ashes to Ashes
Posts: 3,784
Norway, Maine, US


Andialu wrote:

Gotcha. lol

oops

Nov 20 12 12:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Designit - Edward Olson
Posts: 1,631
Eureka, California, US


I have known who Kevin Clash is longer than probably anyone here because my best friend from high school and his wife worked in the same industry, and actually worked closely with Clash on occasion.

Kevin Clash's biggest problem before the accusations of underage relations was his ego. He wasn't happy with his character getting all the attention. It didn't surprise me when he started putting out books and documentaries about himself. It is ironic to me that he has lost everything because he put his own face out in the public so much. The accusers probably wouldn't have come forward if they hadn't seen him on TV, etc., so much in the last year or so.
Nov 20 12 10:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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R A V E N D R I V E
Posts: 15,867
New York, New York, US


why'd he quit again?

AH FUCK IT its not like he's a CIA director or anything, just a puppeteer!




hm I might reuse that sentence more ironically when a dictator gets overthrown or something
Nov 20 12 10:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Star
Posts: 17,921
Los Angeles, California, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:
http://biopearco.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/age-of-consent-map-usa.jpg

But what about Alaska and Hawaii?

Nov 20 12 10:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Body Painter
Monad Studios
Posts: 9,528
Santa Rosa, California, US


Throughout the world, throughout history, in every known culture, a certain fraction of full-grown adults have sex with adolescents.  Whatever the laws and customs of a time and place might say about it, it's a stubborn fact of human existence.
Nov 20 12 10:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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