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Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Robert Jewett wrote:

Please hear this kindly, because that is how I intend it...but that may not come across in written form.

You asked a question about your situation.  We answered it based on the parameters of who you are.
We also answered it based on the parameters set by the industry. 
Those two things are facts.

No-one is trying to kill your dream, but at the same time, your dreams are not going to change the industry.  No matter how much you want petite to be broadly accepted in the industry it is not.  It wont be in our lifetimes.

You already have your answer by the amount of work you are booking. 

Adapt to the industry or get out of the modeling industry.  The industry does not owe you work.

I don't feel the need to adapt to the industry, its is ever evolving and changing and if I feel the need to change course with a genre, I will.

The industry doesn't owe me work, but I also feel that I am just as capiable as any other model, no matter their height or age status.

Perhaps for me, it will remain a side project and never become a career, but I will continue to do what I feel is best.

I am trying to keep up with everyones suggestions, too! They are a lot to take in and I will consider each as I continue to think about the path I am on.

Thanks for the input, Robert.

Nov 15 12 09:37 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:
If you are trying to sell something at a price people don't want to pay, then you either have to sell something else or lower your price.  That applies to virtually everything in the marketplace.

Thank you, Kent

Nov 15 12 09:38 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Paul Tirado Photography wrote:

+1. Being that vast majority of editorial work is no to low budget, I would say that your rate on editorial is to high. Also remember that should it be true editorial work with publication, it is generally not that hard for a photographer to get an agency to send them models in return for tears.

Thanks, Paul. I will consider my options and see what I can whiddle down rate wise. smile

Nov 15 12 09:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Jewett
Posts: 2,419
al-Marsā, Tunis, Tunisia


Beautifully Broke wrote:
I don't feel the need to adapt to the industry, its is ever evolving and changing and if I feel the need to change course with a genre, I will.

Right now, you are selling hot cocoa in July.  Maybe it's time to change your market, or switch to lemonade? I love your Christmas carols, but it's still 102* out. smile

Nov 15 12 09:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 35,195
Columbus, Ohio, US


If your avatar attracted me in a search to click on it......after scanning over your written profile, I wouldn't even peek inside. 

To me, it screams possible drama & attitude. There are plenty of other folks on here, it's not worth the risk of headaches.

IMHO I would scrap the entire thing, re-write it, and keep it down to 1-2 short sweet & simple paragraphs. What you're trying to avoid with a lot of the crape you wrote, won't matter because a good portion of folks on here won't read it anyhow.

And the ones who won't read, can often be folks you might wish to avoid anyhow. But in the meantime you alienate other folks who do read.
Nov 15 12 09:44 am  Link  Quote 
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Matt Knowles
Posts: 3,550
Ferndale, California, US


I'm not hiring a model who requires a down payment. Total deal breaker for me. Also I'm not hiring a model with 28" hips. One of the simplest skills a beginning model (especially a non-nude model) needs to master, is getting their measurements right.
Nov 15 12 09:45 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
New Art Photo
Posts: 701
Los Angeles, California, US


I haven't even studied your photos, but 28 is a tough age for ANY model...

(Just as 55 is a tough age for a  photographer who
photographs young women-- age is brutal on us all.
Nov 15 12 09:47 am  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,315
State College, Pennsylvania, US


Sorry my early reply wasn't worth commenting on. As I said, I didn't look at your imagery, but after perusing your bio, the only word that would come to my mind is "next...'
Nov 15 12 09:48 am  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


New Art Photo wrote:
I haven't even studied your photos, but 28 is a tough age for ANY model...

This is completely dependent upon your market.

Where I am, which is in no way considered a hot-spot for any kind of work but still has commercial clients, the age bracket that books the most work is 25-35, and 60+.

Not even speaking of the freelance scene, because that's its own beast.

Nov 15 12 09:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GoldRoseMedia
Posts: 2,932
NORTH BRUNSWICK, New Jersey, US


Small Fruit Pits wrote:
If your avatar attracted me in a search to click on it......after scanning over your written profile, I wouldn't even peek inside. 

To me, it screams possible drama & attitude. There are plenty of other folks on here, it's not worth the risk of headaches.

Same here. Everything the OP has written in her profile (and even more so what she has said in this thread) indicates that she has no clue how freelance modeling really works, or what photographers are looking for in a model. If she were to reply to one of my paid casting calls, I would send it directly to the trash bin without a second thought.

Edit: And it has nothing to do with being petite. I have worked with many wonderful models in her height range who delivered exactly what I wanted, and I would gladly hire any of them again.

Nov 15 12 09:58 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
D-Light
Posts: 509
Newcastle, Limerick, Ireland


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Wouldn't it be obvious that your rates are too high?

Perhaps if you had a "per hour" option, people might bite for a smaller entry price.


I do art nudes. It takes about an hour, MAYBE two to do all three concepts I'd do. Why would I need to hire you for a full day at $600 for that?

The answer is, I don't.

+1

Also I think you should extract your travel expenses from your rates and charge them separately. Including travel expenses in your rates pushes them up and makes you more expensive than others.

Also, include examples of all the work types you do in your port. No one is going to hire you to do implied if it's not in your port. Many of us have the experience of hiring a model to do something she claims to do but has never done before. Maybe she's just no good at it or changes her mind at the last minute, as it's too big a step and she's not ready yet.

Start refusing TF shoots, you have enough experience now and have good enough a port. It's easy to get stuck in a rut and only you can change that. Apply for castings and even put up an availability or travel notice.

Good luck, it's a tough business.

Nov 15 12 10:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Drew Hoshkiw
Posts: 120
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


It's a business, and like any business, you need to advertise and promote yourself more if you want to find customers.

Having a good resume isn't good enough for getting people to buy something from you; those potential people have to know you're there.

Beautifully Broke wrote:
As a model, I find it difficult to get any PAID work.

Nov 15 12 10:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AgX
Posts: 1,146
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


MainePaintah wrote:
Just speaking for myself, as an artist who paints fine art nudes.

The column under you avatar photo says you do "nudes" and it says you put the "art" category up.

I did not see any photos that resembled art nude, so if I had come across your port, I would have gone through it pretty fast and not even considered hiring you.

I know this might be a small genre for you to be doing, but your port and many, many other models' port I have seen, list all the categories of genre that they will do, but never have any photos that show me, or other photographers, what they are capable of.

It is like when a model says she models nude and talks about it in her profile, but there is not one photo in her port that show me that she can model fine art nudes (and I am not talking about just being paid to pose naked).

Hopes this helped.
Beautifully Broke wrote:
Thanks for that. Reason being is that my last art/nude project was over a year ago and my porfolio has ovbiously changed since. I also have some implied images yet to be posted as they are pending for publication.

If someone wanted to fully go through my portfolio, they would find artistic images on my website, facebook, also under MM credits from a specific artist that I have done art/implied for in past.

Thanks for the input, Maine smile

Why would you put the onus on the buyer to wander around the internet trying to find examples of the genres that you claim they do? Poor salesmanship, in my opinion.

If you do it, show it. You're in competition to sell your services, and if your sales pitch isn't immediately convincing, it's just as easy to move on to someone else.

Nov 15 12 10:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
New Art Photo
Posts: 701
Los Angeles, California, US


model emily  wrote:

New Art Photo wrote:
I haven't even studied your photos, but 28 is a tough age for ANY model...

This is completely dependent upon your market.

Where I am, which is in no way considered a hot-spot for any kind of work but still has commercial clients, the age bracket that books the most work is 25-35, and 60+.

Not even speaking of the freelance scene, because that's its own beast.

--We're sliding into a different conversation, but I work mostly with young actresses trying to make it in "Hollywood".  By 28 out here, you want to be working steadily, or you may be in the wrong line of work.

Nov 15 12 10:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Vector 38
Posts: 8,296
Austin, Texas, US


Beautifully Broke wrote:
My resume keeps adding up, my expertise grows with each shoot

this is too subjective: buyers rarely evaluate product in the same terms as the provider; your prospective clients, certainly not the average MMayhem photographer, are likely not seeing the same increasing value here as you ...

Beautifully Broke wrote:
My rates are both flexiable (sic) and reasonable (..smile They are based on a full 8-12 hr day

believe it's been pointed out most here are not looking for that long a shoot; establishing/discussing such becomes irrelevant to the potential client, maybe even turning him/her away, whereas you could suggest that you have an hourly rate along with "day-rate available" ...

Beautifully Broke wrote:
[rates] are broken down to three types; portfolio, editorial, implied/artistic

subjectivity again: even in mainstream circles there's no hard & fast definition as to where any line may fall between "portfolio" & "editorial" - MMayhem photographers argue it regularly - and so perhaps, in spite your original intentions, you've priced yourself out of work for which you might have otherwise been considered.

Nov 15 12 10:18 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jolly Rauncher
Posts: 1,515
Seattle, Washington, US


Just checking back in after I took a look at your profile-

Gonna go ahead and throw this out there, that even as a model you've got too much going on here for me to focus on. It sounds too much like the guys that talk really fast at the end of commercials saying they don't take CODs with a boat load of important information hidden amongst the not-so.

Condense your profile, put your tear sheets and publications in their own album, keep relevant info only, and tell photographers they may contact you for further inquiry.
Nov 15 12 10:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


a) Ridiculously high rates.

b) Doesn't shoot nudes (implied only)

c) Long and demanding 3rd person profile with lots of conditions

d) $25 booking fee

e) No option to book less than a full day

f) Claims to shoot implied nude but has none in her portfolio

g) Who the hell is "Melodye Joy"?


Shall I go on?



Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com
Nov 15 12 10:20 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
nolngeractive
Posts: 178
Reno, Nevada, US


i dont think i can add anything that hasnt been said already but it's worth noting that you take feedback given exceptionally well ... not nearly enough of that around here.
Nov 15 12 10:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4,300
Asheville, North Carolina, US


Small Fruit Pits wrote:
If your avatar attracted me in a search to click on it......after scanning over your written profile, I wouldn't even peek inside. 

To me, it screams possible drama & attitude. There are plenty of other folks on here, it's not worth the risk of headaches.

IMHO I would scrap the entire thing, re-write it, and keep it down to 1-2 short sweet & simple paragraphs. What you're trying to avoid with a lot of the crape you wrote, won't matter because a good portion of folks on here won't read it anyhow.

And the ones who won't read, can often be folks you might wish to avoid anyhow. But in the meantime you alienate other folks who do read.

+1

The whole thing needs to be re-thought to make it simpler, friendlier and less costly.

For example: Of course you should stop TFP and politely decline such offers if you don't need TFP but you are going to wave off potential paid offers by putting  something like no TFP repeated as a line in your about me section.

Right now you are portraying yourself as demanding, dramatic and over priced. You may not actually be any of these things, and if you are not you should restructure your rates, rethink your policies and rewrite your profile to give a more positive and accurate impression of who you are and what you offer.

Nov 15 12 10:30 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Robert Jewett wrote:

Right now, you are selling hot cocoa in July.  Maybe it's time to change your market, or switch to lemonade? I love your Christmas carols, but it's still 102* out. smile

Must be nice for a Summer day on your end, Robert. It so happens it is a bit chilly here in Southern California.

Thanks for your insight

Nov 15 12 01:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Small Fruit Pits wrote:
If your avatar attracted me in a search to click on it......after scanning over your written profile, I wouldn't even peek inside. 

To me, it screams possible drama & attitude. There are plenty of other folks on here, it's not worth the risk of headaches.

IMHO I would scrap the entire thing, re-write it, and keep it down to 1-2 short sweet & simple paragraphs. What you're trying to avoid with a lot of the crape you wrote, won't matter because a good portion of folks on here won't read it anyhow.

And the ones who won't read, can often be folks you might wish to avoid anyhow. But in the meantime you alienate other folks who do read.

Thank you, Small Fruit Pits.
Its unfortunate that I try to be detailed as possible so that someone doesn't say it wasn't there, but I understand. Just the basics is all that's needed.

Thanks!

Nov 15 12 01:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Matt Knowles wrote:
I'm not hiring a model who requires a down payment. Total deal breaker for me. Also I'm not hiring a model with 28" hips. One of the simplest skills a beginning model (especially a non-nude model) needs to master, is getting their measurements right.

Matt,
As for my hip size, I received that mesaurement from a seemstress. If it is incorrect, then I was simply misinformed and I will seek better information and revise asap. Thank you.

I require a downpayment, which is towards the full rate, because I feel that I have been jipped enough in this industry and if a "photographer" 'forgot the cvash/check/money'..then at best I am compinsated partial travel.
It is unfortunate, but true..
My rates are negotiable, dependent upon the concept, as well as reliablity/reputation of the artist.

Thanks for the input.

Nov 15 12 01:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


New Art Photo wrote:
I haven't even studied your photos, but 28 is a tough age for ANY model...

(Just as 55 is a tough age for a  photographer who
photographs young women-- age is brutal on us all.

Yes, New Art Photo...age is a terriable terriable thing isn't it? smile

Nov 15 12 01:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


salvatori. wrote:
Sorry my early reply wasn't worth commenting on. As I said, I didn't look at your imagery, but after perusing your bio, the only word that would come to my mind is "next...'

Im sorry, Salvatori...I didn't see your comment the first time. My apologies.

Thanks for your input. Hopefully you find what your looking for here on MM.

Bless!

Nov 15 12 01:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


GoldRoseMedia wrote:

Same here. Everything the OP has written in her profile (and even more so what she has said in this thread) indicates that she has no clue how freelance modeling really works, or what photographers are looking for in a model. If she were to reply to one of my paid casting calls, I would send it directly to the trash bin without a second thought.

Edit: And it has nothing to do with being petite. I have worked with many wonderful models in her height range who delivered exactly what I wanted, and I would gladly hire any of them again.

Thanks Gold Rose. I will note that yo0u'd rather not work with me, when I look into any casting calls.

To respond further, I know how freelance modeling works, however I will not sell myself short, box myself into one category, ect.

And may I note; to yourself, Small Fruit Pits and everyone else, I am not drama and attitude at all. Far from that mess. I am professional and perhaps being so professional comes off "attitude and drama" like, but that is never my intention.

Thank you for your insight.

Nov 15 12 01:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


D-Light wrote:

+1

Also I think you should extract your travel expenses from your rates and charge them separately. Including travel expenses in your rates pushes them up and makes you more expensive than others.

Also, include examples of all the work types you do in your port. No one is going to hire you to do implied if it's not in your port. Many of us have the experience of hiring a model to do something she claims to do but has never done before. Maybe she's just no good at it or changes her mind at the last minute, as it's too big a step and she's not ready yet.

Start refusing TF shoots, you have enough experience now and have good enough a port. It's easy to get stuck in a rut and only you can change that. Apply for castings and even put up an availability or travel notice.

Good luck, it's a tough business.

Thanks, D-light. It isn't the easiest of business is it? smile

I will consider all of these suggestions for sure.

Nov 15 12 01:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Drew Hoshkiw wrote:
It's a business, and like any business, you need to advertise and promote yourself more if you want to find customers.

Having a good resume isn't good enough for getting people to buy something from you; those potential people have to know you're there.

Thank you, Drew. And I do promote best as I can, through MM, Broken Doll Models, omp, Facebook, Twitter, my own website...

Still a hard pond to fish in but I'm tryin smile

Nov 15 12 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


AgX wrote:

Why would you put the onus on the buyer to wander around the internet trying to find examples of the genres that you claim they do? Poor salesmanship, in my opinion.

If you do it, show it. You're in competition to sell your services, and if your sales pitch isn't immediately convincing, it's just as easy to move on to someone else.

Thanks, AgX

Nov 15 12 01:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


New Art Photo wrote:

llama emily  wrote:

New Art Photo wrote:
I haven't even studied your photos, but 28 is a tough age for ANY llama...

This is completely dependent upon your market.

Where I am, which is in no way considered a hot-spot for any kind of work but still has commercial clients, the age bracket that books the most work is 25-35, and 60 .

Not even speaking of the freelance scene, because that's its own beast.

--We're sliding into a different conversation, but I work mostly with young actresses trying to make it in "Hollywood".  By 28 out here, you want to be working steadily, or you may be in the wrong line of work.

Perhaps that is so, New Art. Its all still a learning curve, no matter how good, how great, how far one goes. smile

Nov 15 12 01:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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R Michael Walker
Posts: 11,939
Costa Mesa, California, US


Do a search of MM models in this area. Look at their rates and credits. This will show you your main competition. Pay close attention to the age, height and weight and see who seem to be working at what and how much they are getting paid. It's a tough business and doubly tough in the LA area. There are a few models who make a living at web modeling. Most travel to do it. Most shoot nudes, glamour and erotic. MM has to be one of the worst places in the world to look for commercial work and about a notch or two better looking for paid fashion work IF you had the right stats.
Nov 15 12 01:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Gary Melton
Posts: 6,241
Dallas, Texas, US


I've been to Rancho Cucamonga...'nuf said...
Nov 15 12 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Vector 38 wrote:

Beautifully Broke wrote:
My resume keeps adding up, my expertise grows with each shoot

this is too subjective: buyers rarely evaluate product in the same terms as the provider; your prospective clients, certainly not the average MMayhem photographer, are likely not seeing the same increasing value here as you ...

Beautifully Broke wrote:
My rates are both flexiable (sic) and reasonable (..smile They are based on a full 8-12 hr day

believe it's been pointed out most here are not looking for that long a shoot; establishing/discussing such becomes irrelevant to the potential client, maybe even turning him/her away, whereas you could suggest that you have an hourly rate along with "day-rate available" ...


subjectivity again: even in mainstream circles there's no hard & fast definition as to where any line may fall between "portfolio" & "editorial" - MMayhem photographers argue it regularly - and so perhaps, in spite your original intentions, you've priced yourself out of work for which you might have otherwise been considered.

Thak you, Vector. I am going hrough everyone's suggestiojns and opinions and through the week and weekend I'm sure I will be revising my page and my rates to best fit everyone. smile

Thanks!

Nov 15 12 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
a) Ridiculously high rates.

b) Doesn't shoot nudes (implied only)

c) Long and demanding 3rd person profile with lots of conditions

d) $25 booking fee

e) No option to book less than a full day

f) Claims to shoot implied nude but has none in her portfolio

g) Who the hell is "Melodye Joy"?


Shall I go on?



Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

1) Thank you, that was exactly what I needed an answer on, I am considering everyone's suggestions and should have a revised portfolio later on.

2) Im sorry to disappoint, but I don't feel the need to show my body off in order to get published, get paid or get noticed..period.

3) Professional profile with a lot of "conditions" because it seems far too often people who are "professional" don't bother reading information that is pertinate or note worthy. At least it's out there now, rather than someone finding out later cause "oops, I forgot to tell you/by the way" is a worse shut door, yes?

4 & 5) te booking fee goes towards the rate and the rate was on a daily basis only due past experience. That is something I am considering changing shortly. Thanks!

6) My last implied/nude shoot was two years ago. I have a different look now, I am 28 and not 26, I have 12 tattoos and not 3...the portfolio has changed as I have changed. Your welcome to view older doings in other social media or my website, but that's up to you.

7) I am Melodye Joy, noice to meet you.

Have a great week and weekend, Stefano

Nov 15 12 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


ClimaxArt wrote:
i dont think i can add anything that hasnt been said already but it's worth noting that you take feedback given exceptionally well ... not nearly enough of that around here.

Thank you, ClimaxArt. That's nice to see someone notice the rare professionalism and true critique around here. smile

Bless!

Nov 15 12 01:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:

+1

The whole thing needs to be re-thought to make it simpler, friendlier and less costly.

For example: Of course you should stop TFP and politely decline such offers if you don't need TFP but you are going to wave off potential paid offers by putting  something like no TFP repeated as a line in your about me section.

Right now you are portraying yourself as demanding, dramatic and over priced. You may not actually be any of these things, and if you are not you should restructure your rates, rethink your policies and rewrite your profile to give a more positive and accurate impression of who you are and what you offer.

Thank you, Jeffery

I am restructuring my portfolio over the next few days, as all of the insight and information I have seen here today really does help me.

Thank you and thanks everyone else smile

Nov 15 12 01:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


R Michael Walker wrote:
Do a search of MM models in this area. Look at their rates and credits. This will show you your main competition. Pay close attention to the age, height and weight and see who seem to be working at what and how much they are getting paid. It's a tough business and doubly tough in the LA area. There are a few models who make a living at web modeling. Most travel to do it. Most shoot nudes, glamour and erotic. MM has to be one of the worst places in the world to look for commercial work and about a notch or two better looking for paid fashion work IF you had the right stats.

Thanks R Michael,
I will do that as well smile

Not too keen on web modeling, personally, but I too know of some lovely, sweet girls that make a good living from that.

The kick with fashion is just that..the right stats. ..of which I don't have, unfortunately.

Nov 15 12 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 542
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US


Gary Melton wrote:
I've been to Rancho Cucamonga...'nuf said...

Nice, Gary. I was raised out in East TX and I have family in Dallas.

How did you like Rancho Cucamonga?

Nov 15 12 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 25,878
Dearborn, Michigan, US


Beautifully Broke wrote:

Thanks R Michael,
I will do that as well smile

Not too keen on web modeling, personally, but I too know of some lovely, sweet girls that make a good living from that.

The kick with fashion is just that..the right stats. ..of which I don't have, unfortunately.

They also know how to network and market themselves.

Nov 15 12 01:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Gary Melton
Posts: 6,241
Dallas, Texas, US


Beautifully Broke wrote:

Nice, Gary. I was raised out in East TX and I have family in Dallas.

How did you like Rancho Cucamonga?

It was okay...pretty much "white bread", middle America, average, "middle of the road", "nothing to distinguish it"...Ontario has SO much more going for it...

smile

Nov 15 12 01:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jojo West
Posts: 969
Silver Spring, Maryland, US


I'm no expert at this, but personally I wouldn't list the actual rates on your profile. It's not a good sales/marketing technique (part of my day job).

As a model, in your area especially, you have to have more to offer than just your look, so you should try to get a dialog started with someone who's interested. If they go to your profile, and they were budgeting lower than your rates, they immediately move on. If you get a dialog going, little things like your flexibility, willingness to work with them, or personality (from what they can tell) may help you close the deal.

This is from my profile, it's worked out well for me, it's just an example:

"If you're interested in shooting nudes, implied nudes or fetish, my rates are very reasonable, unless you have stunning work, my clothes don't come off for free. You can also make me an offer and we can go from there. Willing to do TF work if it will benefit my portfolio. TF work with full team will take priority."
Nov 15 12 01:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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