Bella la Bell
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Kansas City, Missouri, US
I am seriously thinking about doing this. I am really interested in knowing more about my father's side. To be honest all I know is my great grandfather was German/Shawnee and that is pretty much as far as it goes. Everyone else has no clue of their geneology on that side of the family.
At the age of 12 I conducted a geneology of my entire mother's side of the family(pretty much entirely French and Echota Cherokee).
I am still working on that thing and think that this testing would help maybe fill in some interesting gaps that I am missing on both sides of the family.
Here is some info about it from the web page, I think everyone should check it out. I really want to do it... Anyone know of anyone that has done it yet, what did they find out if so?
Price is $199.95... ummm
"The Genographic Project is a multiyear research initiative led by National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Dr. Spencer Wells. Dr. Wells and a team of renowned international scientists are using cutting-edge genetic and computational technologies to analyze historical patterns in DNA from participants around the world to better understand our human genetic roots. The three components of the project are:
■To gather and analyze research data in collaboration with indigenous and traditional peoples around the world
■To invite the general public to join this real-time scientific project and to learn about their own deep ancestry by purchasing a Genographic Project Participation and DNA Ancestry Kit, Geno 2.0
■To use a portion of the proceeds from Geno 2.0 kit sales to further research and the Genographic Legacy Fund, which in turn supports community-led indigenous conservation and revitalization projects
The Genographic Project is anonymous, nonmedical, and nonprofit, and all results are placed in the public domain following scientific peer publication."
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/about/
Bella la Bell
Posts: 4,426
Kansas City, Missouri, US
Little Queenie wrote: It's probably going to cost more than that if they have to draw blood.
It does. But I am lucky I know a phlebotomist, I am going to text him about this and see if he know about the Geno 2.0 and how much it is to draw blood.... Ummmm
I would consider doing it myself... (have already an interesting blood mixture, found mostly in Asia... I blame the Mongols/Huns), once I have some spare money... too many bills I have to cover.
Bella la Bell
Posts: 4,426
Kansas City, Missouri, US
udor wrote: I love the Genographic Project!
I would consider doing it myself... (have already an interesting blood mixture, found mostly in Asia... I blame the Mongols/Huns), once I have some spare money... too many bills I have to cover.
I know. I really want to do it and I might just do this as a Christmas gift to myself. Damn it I am buying it... for Christmas... made me mind up! I will fill everyone in on how it goes... umm.
Bella la Bell
Posts: 4,426
Kansas City, Missouri, US
C. Scott Photography wrote: I just don't care much about the past. Where I come from has never been slightly as important as where I'm going.
At least, specifically speaking.
I love history in general, but I just don't think any 1 person's genetic path (least of all mine) matters in the grand scheme.
I think it is rather interesting. I mean I am horrible at science! BUT I really love history. So I would love to find out more about this entire study and that of my own background. Its rather interesting.
This is about deep ancestry - tens of thousands of years with perhaps a few thousand years of resolution. This won't tell you much about all your relatives over the last several generations.
The new platform dramatically increases the genetic marker set, so it should provide a high resolution data set of human migration patterns for the last 50,000 to 100,000 years.
Bella la Bell
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Kansas City, Missouri, US
Tony-S wrote: This is about deep ancestry - tens of thousands of years with perhaps a few thousand years of resolution. This won't tell you much about all your relatives over the last several generations.
The new platform dramatically increases the genetic marker set, so it should provide a high resolution data set of human migration patterns for the last 50,000 to 100,000 years.
You seemed to suggest in your OP that this might discriminate tribal differences of your Native American heritage; however, unless the genetic markers are already well-defined, it may not. The beauty of this approach, though, is that the more who participate the higher the resolution of the test and the more informative it becomes. But it will not connect the dots of direct ancestry for anyone; it only provides a statistical probability of your ancestry. For example, I did my Y chromosome with this group a couple of years ago and my statistically most likely ancestry is from central Africa to Saudi Arabia, along the Persian coast to what is now India/Pakistan, back through what is now Iran to Syria/Israel and finally into southern Europe (Slovenia, Croatia, Italy). That is the most likely route, but not the unequivocal route. It is also contrary to the route taken by 90% of people of European ancestry, most of whom can be traced through the central Caucuses.
Bella la Bell wrote: No blood required! Its all done off cheek cells. Whoo hoo.
And for less then $200!? Do you know how far back they go, if they give actual info on your ancestors or do they strictly tell you what nationalities are in your blood/cells?
Kelli wrote: And for less then $200!? Do you know how far back they go, if they give actual info on your ancestors or do they strictly tell you what nationalities are in your blood/cells?
It probably dates back to about 50,000 to 100,000 years ago and trace your ancestry to what is now Tanzania/Kenya. No, no info on your actual ancestors, only the statistically most likely route your ancestors took - no nationalities are involved (since nationalities are a very recent phenomena anyway). They can only tell the region your ancestors most likely took (and reference those to geographic regions by current nations). It will not tell you anything about diseases - these markers are from the noncoding region of the genome in all likelihood.
It does. But I am lucky I know a phlebotomist, I am going to text him about this and see if he know about the Geno 2.0 and how much it is to draw blood.... Ummmm
Um, I don't think there is a state inthe union that allows a licensed Phlebotomist to extract a blood sample to hand off to the patient directly.
I'd start with your Primary Care Physician and explain your purpose and he/she can likely authorize a direct-send. Blood cultures are very delicate and easily corruptable, having a limited "shelf life" for the kind of analysis this project entails.
Le_Demimonde wrote: Um, I don't think there is a state inthe union that allows a licensed Phlebotomist to extract a blood sample to hand off to the patient directly.
I'd start with your Primary Care Physician and explain your purpose and he/she can likely authorize a direct-send. Blood cultures are very delicate and easily corruptable, having a limited "shelf life" for the kind of analysis this project entails.
It's not necessary for this test. It is a swab of the inside of the mouth that gets put into a buffer for shipment. No blood required, the swab has cells from the mouth that are constantly sloughed.
It probably dates back to about 50,000 to 100,000 years ago and trace your ancestry to what is now Tanzania/Kenya. No, no info on your actual ancestors, only the statistically most likely route your ancestors took - no nationalities are involved (since nationalities are a very recent phenomena anyway). They can only tell the region your ancestors most likely took (and reference those to geographic regions by current nations). It will not tell you anything about diseases - these markers are from the noncoding region of the genome in all likelihood.
Le_Demimonde wrote: Um, I don't think there is a state inthe union that allows a licensed Phlebotomist to extract a blood sample to hand off to the patient directly.
My cat will be happy to draw blood from anyone at all... just pet her when she doesn't feel like being petted.
Just did my cheek swabs. Will drop the samples off in the mail today. Six to 8 weeks and they even tell you how much Neanderthal and Denisovan you are!
"Ketchum said her team has sequenced three complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and concluded the species is a human hybrid.
"Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain three whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples," she said in the release. "The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species.
"Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens."
"Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA, she said."
"Ketchum said her team has sequenced three complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and concluded the species is a human hybrid.
"Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain three whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples," she said in the release. "The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species.
"Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens."
"Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA, she said."
I'm 44% Mediterranian (Italy), 36% northern European (German), 18% southwest Aisan and 2% northeastern Asian. No idea how where that last 2% came from! I also have 2.2% Neanderthal and 3.3% Denisovan DNA. These explain much of my behavior!
Tony-S wrote: I'm 44% Mediterranian (Italy), 36% northern European (German), 18% southwest Aisan and 2% northeastern Asian. No idea how where that last 2% came from! I also have 2.2% Neanderthal and 3.3% Denisovan DNA. These explain much of my behavior!
I came in at 42% Northern European, 38% Mediterranean, and 19% Southwest Asian. My Neanderthal percentage is 3.2%, and my Denisovan is 3.7%. It sounds like our ancestors were into inter-species mating. Living out on the Asian steppes, I can understand how a Neanderthal cutie might warm up your cave on those long, cold winter nights.
I would love to find out some weird interesting biological stuff as well.
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