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Photographer
JohnG Las Vegas
Posts: 110
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


I credit all MM models unless they ask me not to.
I have some shots of an MM member who was involved in a child custody case and specifically asked me NOT to credit her nudes.
Other "uncredited" models are not MM members.
When shooting trade with MM members, I specify I will credit participants and ask the same from them.
Nov 16 12 11:34 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


natural beauties of qld wrote:
It is interesting that, so far, the replies to this thread are 4 to 1 photographers to models. 

Maybe it is just co-incidence, but it fits with my impression that photographers are more aware than models of the etiquette with crediting.

Or...we just have far more time on our hands than the models.

I agree though that photographers are aware of the etiquette. Which makes it more reprehensible when crediting is avoided because of a photographers possessiveness.

I mean, if we're going to succeed as pimps, we gotsta share our stables.

Nov 16 12 11:39 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Alexandra - C
Posts: 253
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I think models should be credited on photos smile unless they prefer not to be
Nov 16 12 11:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TallPix
Posts: 222
Miami Springs, Florida, US


Some of my models have stalkers...... even here on MM.  I have been contacted and badgered by few of them.  I run interference for some.of my models.

Also some.if my models.only do my content with me....... and no one else.  They do not advertise that they do my stuff
Nov 16 12 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
salvatori.
Posts: 3,762
State College, Pennsylvania, US


FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models.  This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with.   Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!

I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.

It's your forum!

Most of the women I photograph aren't models- they're friends or clients. They aren't looking to shoot with anyone else and they have been kind enough to allow me the use of the image in my work.

I am AMAZED at how some people jump to conclusions and assume I am a dick because I didn't give the credit to a model (not saying you did that, but it has been inferred in other similar threads), and frankly I get tired of PMs that ask for a person's email or contact info.

Nov 16 12 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Amul La La
Posts: 805
Plymouth, England, United Kingdom


Alexandra - C wrote:
I think models should be credited on photos smile unless they prefer not to be

Certainly, vice verse.

Nov 16 12 11:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 12,686
Atlanta, Georgia, US


I do, or their agency if it's a test shoot.  I find that when a MM is not credited it's often because she took it off via credited work or the photographer is a d-bag trying to make sure no "steals their models"

P.S. this obviously doesn't cover the shit site code that makes them disappear...
Nov 16 12 11:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 27,478
Dearborn, Michigan, US


S W I N S K E Y wrote:
i refuse to credit models because i don't want other local photographers to contact them and shoot better pictures with them...

Selfish!     big_smile

Nov 16 12 01:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Brianne L
Posts: 279
OTTSVILLE, Pennsylvania, US


I always credit whoever I work with, even if they're not on MM. So far I've been credited in return.
Nov 16 12 06:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,864
Olivet, Michigan, US


FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models.  This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with.   Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!

I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.

It's your forum!

I credit models unless they ask me not to.  Some models are fine with art nude shoots, but prefer not to be credited.

Nov 16 12 06:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
dgold
Posts: 10,273
North Smithfield, Rhode Island, US


Alexandra - C wrote:
I think models should be credited on photos smile unless they prefer not to be

Exactly, Alexandra !

Nov 16 12 06:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
LLOYD WRIGHT
Posts: 664
Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom


in my limited experience on here it is models that don't credit the photographer!
Nov 16 12 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
terrysphotocountry
Posts: 4,077
Rochester, New York, US


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.

Be required to? No.

Nov 16 12 06:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Isis22
Posts: 2,499
Muncie, Indiana, US


I find that it is mostly models that don't credit photographers, not the other way around. I also find it is just laziness when I don't see credits because they don't credit ANYONE, they are not being selective.

The only thing you can do is ask the person directly who they worked with. You never know if you don't ask;)
Nov 16 12 06:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,864
Olivet, Michigan, US


Isis22 wrote:
I find that it is mostly models that don't credit photographers, not the other way around. I also find it is just laziness when I don't see credits because they don't credit ANYONE, they are not being selective.

The only thing you can do is ask the person directly who they worked with. You never know if you don't ask;)

I shot with a fantastic model who used five or six of my shots, and didn't credit me, sadly.

Nov 16 12 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DarrylPascoePhotography
Posts: 471
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


New Century Studio wrote:
My models are signed agency talents, and choose not to participate on MM,

This ^^^ .

but I certainly think should if they want the credit on here.

Nov 16 12 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
The Aperture Studio
Posts: 95
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.

Be required to? No.

I agree.

Nov 16 12 07:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
The F-Stop
Posts: 1,470
New York, New York, US


Always do unless I was asked not to... and that hasn't happened yet.
Nov 16 12 08:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Garry k
Posts: 26,986
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


when you are shooting with agency models most of them dont care to be credited here - at least that is my experience
Nov 16 12 08:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
D S P
Posts: 510
Portland, Oregon, US


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.

Be required to? No.

Yes
I always ask the model first though.

Nov 16 12 08:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Erik Ballew wrote:
I always do, but I find that I also hardly get credit from the model, witch I'd love to get, since the models get all the views...

Often true!

Nov 17 12 05:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matthew Naglich
Posts: 26
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


Always give credit where credit is due -- unless the model would not want to be credited.  On a networking site, I couldn't imagine why a model wouldn't want to be credited....
Nov 17 12 05:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BodyIndustry
Posts: 268
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Always give credit, unless they are not on MM or asked not to be credited.
Nov 17 12 06:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GM Photography
Posts: 6,062
Olympia, Washington, US


Yes, unless they ask not to be credited and/or aren't on MM.
Nov 17 12 09:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Farenell Photography
Posts: 17,956
Albany, New York, US


natural beauties of qld wrote:
It is interesting that, so far, the replies to this thread are 4 to 1 photographers to models. 

Maybe it is just co-incidence, but it fits with my impression that photographers are more aware than models of the etiquette with crediting.

Or its an issue (or nonissue) that boths sides have to deal w/.

Nov 17 12 11:07 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kayz-Modelling
Posts: 294
Plymouth, England, United Kingdom


I always credit photographers that I work with, provided that they have an MM account. Also if any other people are involved with the shoot, like other models and MUA's.

If they don't have a MM account I still caption their name, and it is also put on my profile (Several people I have worked with don't have MM accounts but still deserve the credit in my eyes).

It would be nice for a photographer to do the same, and if they haven't credited me I do ask them to. If they don't however there isn't much I can do. Add a list/comment to the image or something of that sort is possible but it's also possible for them to delete it.

Kayz
Nov 17 12 12:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,077
New York, New York, US


FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models.  This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with.   Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!

I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.

It's your forum!

I think that all parties should credit each other on the photos posted... after all... this site is also a huge networking tool!

Nov 17 12 12:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JustinAllenPhotography
Posts: 324
San Jose, California, US


i try to credit but chrome doesnt seem to like to work with this site and i cant submit any changes with names.. have to do it in firefox
Nov 17 12 12:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
Platform Artist
Posts: 157
Chicago, Illinois, US


it doesnt matter , really.
Nov 17 12 12:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Michael Walker
Posts: 11,983
Costa Mesa, California, US


Jhono Bashian wrote:
If I shoot a MM talent I will always credit him/her.

+!...unless they ask not to be credited which HAS happened. I get models from time to time who say "no nudes" and don't post any on their profile but they pose nude for me. THEY don't want to be linked in my work.

Nov 17 12 12:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Harris Photography
Posts: 495
Edison, New Jersey, US


FacadePhoto wrote:
Why haven't you given credit to this llama ?

I did but sometimes the credits disappear.  Just fixed it. Thanks!

Keep in mind that we all now have the ability to remove a credit if we would rather not be linked to a photograph. I have worked with one terrific llama who is very fussy about the photographs to which she is linked. She did not ask that they not be used, just not credited. You might find it gone again at some future date.

Nov 17 12 02:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Stanley L Moore
Posts: 1,599
Houston, Texas, US


Isis22 wrote:
I find that it is mostly models that don't credit photographers, not the other way around. I also find it is just laziness when I don't see credits because they don't credit ANYONE, they are not being selective.

The only thing you can do is ask the person directly who they worked with. You never know if you don't ask;)

I send the mpdel a polite note asking them to credit me.  AND I include my MM# 2208590. I had a time or two to walk them through the steps to add credits.

Only time I don't credit is by request, usually for nudes.

Nov 17 12 03:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Misty R H
Posts: 471
Anaheim, California, US


S W I N S K E Y wrote:
i refuse to credit models because i don't want other local photographers to contact them and shoot better pictures with them...

That is kind of selfish. It's like a model not giving you credit because you might shoot better picture of another model.

If someone shoots that model better. Learn from that and improve.

Nov 17 12 04:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 36,421
Columbus, Ohio, US


S W I N S K E Y wrote:
i refuse to credit models because i don't want other local photographers to contact them and shoot better pictures with them...
Misty R H wrote:
That is kind of selfish. It's like a model not giving you credit because you might shoot better picture of another model.

If someone shoots that model better. Learn from that and improve.

Adjust your sarcasm meter from its low setting.... wink

Nov 17 12 04:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 4,071
Vineland, New Jersey, US


I credit all models ... unless they don't have or close their MM account.

  I've looked at pictures in portfolios and think "wow, what a great model" so I click on the credit link ... this member either isn't a member or is waiting for their account to be approved.  In the event someone is looking at my port and decides to check out a model I shot, this won't happen to them.

  On the other hand, I've looked at some models ports and seen where they didn't give me credit at all.  I'd like it if they did, especially since the agreement they signed says they will.  Far more common is the model who will list my name but not MM number.  Technically it's the same thing as no one will know to look for me here on MM.  There is also no link for Google and other search engines to find.
Nov 17 12 05:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
PWF Retouch
Posts: 290
Jacksonville, North Carolina, US


Just be glad you're not a retoucher. We barely ever get credited. People want others to think they always look prefect :p
Nov 17 12 05:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 4,071
Vineland, New Jersey, US


PWF Retouch wrote:
Just be glad you're not a retoucher. We barely ever get credited. People want others to think they always look prefect :p

I wouldn't have a problem not getting credit if they were giving me money. Unfortunately, most don't.

Nov 17 12 08:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,864
Olivet, Michigan, US


S W I N S K E Y wrote:
i refuse to credit models because i don't want other local photographers to contact them and shoot better pictures with them...
Misty R H wrote:
That is kind of selfish. It's like a model not giving you credit because you might shoot better picture of another model.

If someone shoots that model better. Learn from that and improve.
Small Fruit Pits wrote:
Adjust your sarcasm meter from its low setting.... wink

Exactly.

Swinskey doesn't think anyone can shoot better pictures.

Nov 17 12 08:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
000---000
Posts: 706
Alberta, Alabama, US


As a model, you're expected to credit the photographer, so why shouldn't the photographer credit the model? (except when she asked not to etc.)
Nov 18 12 08:48 am  Link  Quote 
Model
J Jessica
Posts: 2,226
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, US


It would be nice if I were to be credited by a photographer.

It would also be splendid if models credited other models in their photos.
smile
Nov 18 12 08:56 am  Link  Quote 
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