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Model
_eMMe_
Posts: 842
Florence, Toscana, Italy


I work the most as stylist and I like to create concepts and powerfull image with the models and photographers I collaborate with.
Modeling is a passion more than a work, and I know I'm to old and to "bizarre" looking and really to much big breasted to be a good fashion model.
But I really liked to do something different from the kind of shots I have in port, to work more with MUA and Hair Stylists and even other stylits.
I would like to shot differente mood, locations and concepts.
I'm quite good to explain and show to models how stand or move so I really liked to try to do the same in FRONT of a camera...
But it's quite hard to find good photographers interested to shot with me. I have a lot of request, but the most are for nude work and from ph I'm not interested to work with (not for free at least and not for nude).
So how can I do?
Nov 23 12 02:33 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,739
Washington, District of Columbia, US


_eMMe_ wrote:
I work the most as stylist and I like to create concepts and powerfull image with the models and photographers I collaborate with.

Have you given serious consideration to transitioning to Styling rather than continuing in modeling?  it is an excellent exit strategy...

_eMMe_ wrote:
...it's quite hard to find good photographers interested to shot with me.

To shoot Editorial Fashion? You've already answered this....

_eMMe_ wrote:
...not interested to work ,,, for free

What make you think a commercial lens person is any different... You do not even come close to what a commercial shooter needs in their book for editorial fashion narratives...

Albeit pay them and you can assume the role of creative director...  I also deal with this frequently... as a make-up artist only clean beauty has worth and value for my book... MM is dominated with hobbyist focused on glamour/nude genre which is absolutely worthless for my book...  And they don't understand why I send my rates for requests for the aforementioned...  I'll do any test creative involving bridal... in as it is the source of my primary revenue stream...   

_eMMe_ wrote:
So how can I do?

_eMMe_  a desire to model editorial fashion, it isn't going to happen for individuals who are outside agency standards 5'9" 110 to 120lbs, size 0 to 2 (USA) dress, B-cup and editorial facial features i.e. high cheek bone, with prominent collar bones...  those standards haven't changed much for decades... yes Dean Johnson is only 5'7", sometimes you get lucky... as a unique waif look model she was in the right place at the right time...

And in all honesty for editorial, the train has left the station for those over 19 years of age...  current demand is in the 15 to 18 age segment...

All the best on your journey...

Nov 23 12 05:34 am  Link  Quote 
Model
_eMMe_
Posts: 842
Florence, Toscana, Italy


Thanks for your kind answer, but actually it wasn't the point, probably it's my poor english fault.
I WORK as stylist and AD, both for editorial and video.
Modeling is a passion and a second work, I don't won't do editorial: I don't want to do fashion modeling... I can't.
I just would like to do some beutiful, interesting shooting. Glamour, alternative, art, anything.
Nov 23 12 08:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Axioma
Posts: 6,776
Gent, East Flanders, Belgium


_eMMe_ wrote:
Thanks for your kind answer, but actually it wasn't the point, probably it's my poor english fault.
I WORK as stylist and AD, both for editorial and video.
Modeling is a passion and a second work, I don't won't do editorial: I don't want to do fashion modeling... I can't.
I just would like to do some beutiful, interesting shooting. Glamour, alternative, art, anything.

Sell yourself and a good idea to a good photographer you're interested in working with. Don't expect them to come to you out of thin air AND bring a concept you've been dreaming about. Show him/her your dedication and admiration for his/her work in your message. Make them see how they would benefit from a shoot with such a passionate, inspiring model like yourself and how your look would work for what you propose. Be realistic about what he/she would want and be interested in (from my experience: fashion-nudes are a safe bet). Make their job easy, have thought about location/theme/moodboard/other teammembers in advance. And don't come across overly pushy in the process.

That should do it smile. Nobody said it was easy.

Nov 23 12 08:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Axioma wrote:

Sell yourself and a good idea to a good photographer you're interested in working with. Don't expect them to come to you out of thin air AND bring a concept you've been dreaming about. Show him/her your dedication and admiration for his/her work in your message. Make them see how they would benefit from a shoot with such a passionate, inspiring model like yourself and how your look would work for what you propose. Be realistic about what he/she would want and be interested in (from my experience: fashion-nudes are a safe bet). Make their job easy, have thought about location/theme/moodboard/other teammembers in advance. And don't come across overly pushy in the process.

That should do it smile. Nobody said it was easy.

This all sounds good.
If they don't feel that your concept will benefit their port, you can offer to trade shoot for shoot. They do your concept, and you do something that helps their port (as long as its within your professional interests/limits of course).  This is something I sometimes offer, as my personal work doesn't always fit in a models portfolio... I will shoot lifestyle, fashion, glamour, you name it, if in return they pose for some art nudes for my project.

Nov 23 12 09:10 am  Link  Quote 
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Amul La La
Posts: 805
Plymouth, England, United Kingdom


eMMe!!!


You can do a photographer search in browse, and look for photographers in you're area, or 10 - 100 miles outside of you're area, you can click on advance search and highlight more than one area of photography you may be interested in...

By the sounds of it you may like:

Lifestyle
hair and make up
Pin up
art

Also look for photographers who style of work you like/enjoy if you happen a folio you like or a shot you like you can ask the photographer about the shot> if it's possible for you to be able to try something like that with the photographer etc.

You seem nice, so just get out there and talk to photographers, there just people.

smile
Nov 23 12 10:18 am  Link  Quote 
Model
_eMMe_
Posts: 842
Florence, Toscana, Italy


All interesting and kind answers, thanks smile

I wait for some more ideas...

AMUL I'm not so shy smile I'm my fashion studio pr, but I'm not very good in selling myself probably!
Nov 23 12 12:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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