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AG_Boston
Posts: 295
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Is this possible with makeup? I'd like gray skin tones for one of my next projects.

Almost all of my work is done with little to no post processing. So using GIMP (I won't pay for or ever use Adobe products) isn't something I want to have to do. I'd much rather get the model's makeup, the lighting, and the setting set right and take photos that way.
Nov 23 12 09:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Denise
Posts: 1,898
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada


Yes, you can get the look of grey skin with makeup, and it can be achieved with a variety of products. Do you have a makeup artist you usually work with you can consult or hire?
Nov 23 12 11:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AG_Boston
Posts: 295
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I don't have a MUA in my area. There is one in Providence, RI I really want to work with. She's a long way off and getting her here is expensive. I'll have to find one locally who I can meet up with and get ideas worked out.
Nov 24 12 05:35 am  Link  Quote 
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In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,338
Hopkinton, Massachusetts, US


It would really be helpful if you had a sample image or two of what you are trying to achieve.

B&W images have grey skin - I'm assuming that there is some color that you want to preserve someplace else in the image?
Nov 24 12 05:45 am  Link  Quote 
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AG_Boston
Posts: 295
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I'm trying to shoot a color photo in B&W if that makes sense.
Nov 24 12 07:04 am  Link  Quote 
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In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,338
Hopkinton, Massachusetts, US


AG_Boston wrote:
I'm trying to shoot a color photo in B&W if that makes sense.

Not exactly - it might be useful to break it down a little bit. How do you think it would be different than a color photo with normal makeup converted to B&W?

For example, what are you planning to do with the hair? Will it be dyed black? Natural color? And the irises?

Are you aiming for perfect B&W? Desaturated some? Color toned?

Nov 24 12 07:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AG_Boston
Posts: 295
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Here's the closest to what I'd like to try:
http://www.rfarah.com/2011/01/hair-make … 2531-edit/
This was hard to find.

The photo was taken in color. The eye makeup still comes through as color. It's pretty close to looking like a B&W photo though.

I'd like to do mine as a full body shoot. What I have in mind for the clothing is a gray dress with varying degrees of gray for shoes, stockings, maybe gloves...things of that nature.

Irises I'm not quire sure how to handle yet. Maybe gray/blue eyes?

I may be able to get hair to come out looking desaturated by playing with different reflectors. Black hair might be cool.
Nov 24 12 07:42 am  Link  Quote 
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In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,338
Hopkinton, Massachusetts, US


AG_Boston wrote:
Here's the closest to what I'd like to try:
http://www.rfarah.com/2011/01/hair-make … 2531-edit/
This was hard to find.

The photo was taken in color. The eye makeup still comes through as color. It's pretty close to looking like a B&W photo though.

I'd like to do mine as a full body shoot. What I have in mind for the clothing is a gray dress with varying degrees of gray for shoes, stockings, maybe gloves...things of that nature.

Irises I'm not quire sure how to handle yet. Maybe gray/blue eyes?

I may be able to get hair to come out looking desaturated by playing with different reflectors. Black hair might be cool.

To me (and what do I know), the most dominant part of that image is this very pronounced blue cast, which I think is unlikely to have been done with gels, and even more unlikely to have been done with makeup. If you color correct that image for the whites of the eyes to be neutral (not perfect but a rough approximation), the image comes out as a normal color image that's a bit desaturated.

Nov 24 12 08:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DG at studio47
Posts: 2,361
East Ridge, Tennessee, US


AG_Boston wrote:
Here's the closest to what I'd like to try:
http://www.rfarah.com/2011/01/hair-make … 2531-edit/
This was hard to find.

The photo was taken in color. The eye makeup still comes through as color. It's pretty close to looking like a B&W photo though.

I'd like to do mine as a full body shoot. What I have in mind for the clothing is a gray dress with varying degrees of gray for shoes, stockings, maybe gloves...things of that nature.

Irises I'm not quire sure how to handle yet. Maybe gray/blue eyes?

I may be able to get hair to come out looking desaturated by playing with different reflectors. Black hair might be cool.

that image looks like a PS creation in terms of "color"...???????

Nov 24 12 08:36 am  Link  Quote 
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Michael Bots
Posts: 5,191
Kingston, Ontario, Canada


Nov 24 12 03:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 3,944
Corona, California, US


Substantially changing a model's skin tone while maintain a "natural" look requires a considerable amount of makeup skill. Finesse and mad blending skills are needed or else the look will come across as a face paint. A deft hand in post editing is also a must.

Here's one of my favorites of the genera: a superb example from MM's own Anthony Gordon http://www.modelmayhem.com/573412

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080419/00/4809737fb1594.jpg

The OP's example is a very pale model with very deliberate lighting and very specific adjustments to levels in post.
Nov 24 12 04:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Heather J M
Posts: 708
London, England, United Kingdom


Sounds fascinating as a concept! Makes me think of Pleasantville?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mammse4GVM1qasl11o1_500.png

I'd experiment with fairly heavy grease colours, and be aware that eyes and such will still be in colour?
Nov 25 12 10:34 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Denise
Posts: 1,898
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada


Here's a recent thread with a similar request. Perhaps the response by ThirdEyeMakeup will be helpful to you. http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=867418
Nov 25 12 12:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kantorka
Posts: 115
Berlin, Berlin, Germany


Kryolan greasepaint will work like a charm. I've used it for two shoots and it goes on wonderfully, with very opaque coverage, and I managed to get a great look out of it despite being ahem, challenged when it comes to application. Go for it.
Nov 30 12 08:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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