digital Artform wrote: God guaranteed the world would be filled with conflict when He filled it with living creatures, required them to eat, and gave them nothing to eat but each other.
digital Artform wrote: It was possibly God's sickest joke of all to fill the Earth with living things, require them to eat, and give them nothing to eat but each other.
Does god eat? Does he have a digestive system? Does he have blood and veins? Can he bleed if he gets cut? Could he die if he allowed himself to?
These questions are relevant only because he purportedly made us in his image, but he has no needs. No need to sleep, no need to eat, etc. Why make us with all these weird limitations?
Go forth and multiply, indeed.... Just be sure you're married before you do it. But here... here's a whole bunch of animals for you to eat if you get hungry. Except some of them might eat you right back. And some of them might be easy to eat, but you will get very very sick and possibly die if you do. But I'm not going to tell you which ones those are. I'll give you hints that the really pretty ones are risky. Oh, and some of the animals will be active during the night. When you get tired and have to sleep. So watch out for that. OH!! And some of the animals I make will be really cute, so you probably shouldn't eat those.
Man... he sure didn't make it easy for us to survive.
Art of CIP
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Good Egg Productions wrote: Let's assume there's a god.
Does god eat? Does he have a digestive system? Does he have blood and veins? Can he bleed if he gets cut? Could he die if he allowed himself to?
These questions are relevant only because he purportedly made us in his image, but he has no needs. No need to sleep, no need to eat, etc. Why make us with all these weird limitations?
Go forth and multiply, indeed.... Just be sure you're married before you do it. But here... here's a whole bunch of animals for you to eat if you get hungry. Except some of them might eat you right back. And some of them might be easy to eat, but you will get very very sick and possibly die if you do. But I'm not going to tell you which ones those are. I'll give you hints that the really pretty ones are risky. Oh, and some of the animals will be active during the night. When you get tired and have to sleep. So watch out for that. OH!! And some of the animals I make will be really cute, so you probably shouldn't eat those.
Man... he sure didn't make it easy for us to survive.
Hopefully you'll find the answers you so desparately seek...
Good Egg Productions wrote: Let's assume there's a god.
Does god eat? Does he have a digestive system? Does he have blood and veins? Can he bleed if he gets cut? Could he die if he allowed himself to?
These questions are relevant only because he purportedly made us in his image, but he has no needs. No need to sleep, no need to eat, etc. Why make us with all these weird limitations?
Go forth and multiply, indeed.... Just be sure you're married before you do it. But here... here's a whole bunch of animals for you to eat if you get hungry. Except some of them might eat you right back. And some of them might be easy to eat, but you will get very very sick and possibly die if you do. But I'm not going to tell you which ones those are. I'll give you hints that the really pretty ones are risky. Oh, and some of the animals will be active during the night. When you get tired and have to sleep. So watch out for that. OH!! And some of the animals I make will be really cute, so you probably shouldn't eat those.
Man... he sure didn't make it easy for us to survive.
its interesting that he gave us a few fears at birth, like of spiders, snakes and heights, so maybe he tried to help in a small way
Good Egg Productions wrote: Let's assume there's a god.
Does god eat? Does he have a digestive system? Does he have blood and veins? Can he bleed if he gets cut? Could he die if he allowed himself to?
These questions are relevant only because he purportedly made us in his image...
I've wondered about that since I was a kid. Does God then have a penis? Body hair or no? Is God's appearance really first genetic cousin to the chimpanzee?
Of course, when I'd ask the nuns (I didn't say "penis" to them, though), they'd say that God as a spiritual being made us in the same spiritual image. Yeah, that's not what I got out of Genesis, but that's OK. Still unsatisfying, though. If God's existence spans all of creation, I sure am not sharing that image with my own self.
Besides the energy locked in the atoms the only source of energy in our neighborhood is the Sun. Did god go straight to the source of energy to power the beings he created? No. He created plants that convert Sun's energy into chemicals and then animals eat those plants and get their energy that way. Why? That is a lousy design.
It's like a car designed to suck gas out of motorcycles, lawn movers, and other gas-powered gizmos instead of being designed to get gas straight from the gas pump.
Or what's up with the creation of Universe? Creation? What creation? The Universe is an explosion in progress. Blowing stuff up is not creating, it's blowing stuff up.
Robert Helm wrote: Did you think of this while having dinner?
Some would say that the complexity of the food chain and how everything is food for something else is one of the proofs of the existence of God or Creative Design. Then again it all could have happened by accident.
Designing creatures to be eaten by other creatures that you design is an idea of a good design?
That's like a furnace designer designing furnaces as fuel for other furnaces.
surinity wrote: why did he make it so some animals have to eat others to survive? did he make lions and crocodiles because he thought it would be entertaining to see them eat a few of his own likeness? maybe just keep us on our toes? why would he even make it that we have to eat?
and as for sex, why would someone that can make things pop out of thin air make such an immoral (ok, lets just call it controversial) way for us to replicate when he could just have continued the thin air trick and avoid all that
if there is a god hes a freak for sure with a demented sense of humour, I guess pretty much like the old testament god, maybe they got it right after all. anyone who thinks his heaven is going to be any less based on sado/masochistic principles is suffering from delusional thinking, in my view
And yet another closed minded person graces SB.
Did you ever stop to think, hmmmm if a creator did exist that it is nothing like the biblical god? You are aware there are many spiritual and religious beliefs that disagree with Christianity therefore it is highly implausible that the bible and Christianity are absolute.
If a creator exist it could have simply created the evolutionary process and left the rest up to evolution therefore things have simply evolved into the way that they are and will continue to evolve over the next few million years.
What makes sex immoral? Some ancient book? Come on lets be realistic, even if a creator/something greater than ourselves did exist do you really think who is having sex with who is a great concern of such an entity?
Sex in only immoral in the eyes of certian religious Dogmamaniacs.
Maybe heaven is to be found here on earth and is not some mythical magical place somewhere in the universe. Maybe we are to experience heaven here on earth. After all what is heaven other than an experience? Maybe heaven is simply the unharmful pleasures in life.
Why would we have to be created in some image considering how much individuality plays an important role in life than it is highly doubtful humans were created in some image of something other than what we are.
In the conceptualization of an all-knowing, all-powerful deity who exists beyond time, space and comprehension, it seems pretty arbitrary that said deity would be bound by such a concept as gender/sexuality.
The rest of this discussion is a function of that: humans ascribing qualities which we know to a concept we've developed to explain the inexplicable. No different than what the Greeks, Romans, Scandinavians, Native Americans or whoever else did.
I thought the 10 commandments were meant to tell you what is good and bad. If it's just human judgements then how can religious people use the word of God to justify their prejudices? For example about sex before marriage and homosexuality?
Once again, the 10 commandments AND the bible were written by man. They were "inspired" by God, however I dare ANYONE to show absolute proof of Gods existence or nonexistence.
"Good and Bad" are defined by our morals....ask the cannibal in a New Guinea jungle if he thinks that killing and eating an enemy who is human is "good or bad".
FlirtynFun Photography wrote: Once again, the 10 commandments AND the bible were written by man. They were "inspired" by God, however I dare ANYONE to show absolute proof of Gods existence or nonexistence.
Any request for proof of non-existence is, on principle, an irrational request.
The burden of proof is on claims of existence.
The statement "God exists", however, can be demonstrated to be false, simply by observing God(s) origins as being absolutely 100% mythological.
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surinity wrote: its interesting that he gave us a few fears at birth, like of spiders, snakes and heights, so maybe he tried to help in a small way
Vector 38 wrote: uhm,..., you're saying a newborn displays these fears? sure about that?
My understanding is that children don't display these fears until they're a little older than newborn; but that they develop these fears regardless of any experience or instruction.
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