Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,472
Palm Beach, Florida, US
Guss W wrote: If you're going to continue living in Florida, you might want to learn the law on this, since there are almost a million active permits issued. That's like one in twenty eligible adults. Still more keep a gun in the car, where a permit is not required. Keep that thought in mind when you are out in public. Having a concealed weapon does NOT mean you have to keep it a secret. If word got out in the neighborhood that Zimmerman carried, so what? Even if the wind blows open his jacket to give a revealing glimpse, that's not illegal. If he's on his own property and wants to clean his gun on his front porch, that's not illegal (Definitely redneck, though).
I know the law about conceal and carry thank you. My father has his ( former military as well). My father also had been known to chase down kids in my neighborhood when necessary but never needed a gun to do it. He could handle himself well enough with his hands without needing a loaded gun to take down a teenaged boy. My father would also defend someone's right to carry a weapon in order to defend themselves but he also thinks Zimmerman is mentally deficient who never had any business with a conceal and carry and also thinks that idiots like Zim make responsible gun owners look bad.
It is against the rules to carry a loaded gun when participating in the neighborhood watch program. It is interesting to me that people had complained about Zimmerman's actions and demeanor and the fact that the program was made aware that he was carrying a loaded gun while performing in his capacity of unofficial neighborhood watch captain.
I would imagine that might be a useful tidbit were there ever a civil action against the homeowner's association.
Zimmerman exercised poor judgement and shot an unarmed teenaged boy. He got out of his car and pursued Martin even though he was not a police officer and was not man enough to handle himself without pulling a gun.
A reasonable person would have called the police instead of taking matters into his own hands especially since Martin had done nothing wrong other than walk through his father's neighborhood armed with an iced tea and some Skittles.
yeah that Zimmerman is a hero. Maybe some of you can send him some nickels and throw him a parade while you're at it.
First, welcome back. We spoke about the AZ. case and I said that fool should have been arrested. Banging a dog leash on a car window should NOT get you killed. That was heartbreaking. His dog stayed by him the whole time as I recall. However the decision NOT too prosecute him was not made that night as with Zimmerman but after some review and I think around more then a week. Frankly that goof deserves to be in prison. Shooting unarmed people is ridiculous. Race does often make a difference though. Especially at sentencing if the person is found guilty.
PLEASE- do elaborate...with showing us what makes you say this.
I have provided an alternate link. Anyone with half a brain can do a google search and see that there is a plethora or peer reviewed source material on the subject of racial inequality in the judicial system if one is interested in actually learning.
The google link worked. I'm not surprised at with America's history that the disparity exists. Nowadays it has to be less a problem but racism is still there. It's a damn shame that our justice system isn't so blind.
Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,472
Palm Beach, Florida, US
j3_photo wrote:
A download link...nope won't do that.
The google link worked. I'm not surprised at with America's history that the disparity exists. Nowadays it has to be less a problem but racism is still there. It's a damn shame that our justice system isn't so blind.
PDF files are how scholarly documentation and peer reviewed sources are provided -- I realize that is asking a lot for someone to actually look at legitimate research and actually think about and digest information that is not cut up and spoonfed for you but that is generally how research works.
It's a legitimate source that would be recognized by an institute of higher learning, a court of law or a legitimate source for a real journalist.
For those who would like to actually read hard data with legitimate sourcing and cites the information is there.
PDF files are how scholarly documentation and peer reviewed sources are provided -- I realize that is asking a lot for someone to actually look at legitimate research and actually think about and digest information that is not cut up and spoonfed for you but that is generally how research works.
It's a legitimate source that would be recognized by an institute of higher learning, a court of law or a legitimate source for a real journalist.
For those who would like to actually read hard data with legitimate sourcing and cites the information is there.
Sorry no Cliff notes or generic web sites.
Once again, when you pasted the link it did not work. I'm not accusing you of providing a crap source.
The widely-discussed phenomenon of “driving
while black” illustrates the potential abuse of
discretion by law enforcement. A two-year studyof 13,566 officer-initiated traffic stops in a Midwestern
city revealed that minority drivers were
stopped at a higher rate than whites and were also
searched for contraband at a higher rate than their
white counterparts. Yet, officers were no more
likely to find contraband on minority motorists
than white motorists.3
• A New York state study found that minorities
charged with felonies were more likely to be detained
than whites. The researchers concluded
that 10 percent of minorities detained in New
York City and 33 percent in other parts of the
state would have been released prior to arraignment
if minorities were detained at the rate of
comparably situated whites.
I have provided an alternate link. Anyone with half a brain can do a google search and see that there is a plethora or peer reviewed source material on the subject of racial inequality in the judicial system if one is interested in actually learning.
You don't take orders? Then don't you ever accuse me of not being civil, got it? Good.
Anyone with less than half a brain can understand that in forums when one makes a claim, they back their words up. I'm not making a claim and I don't have to research a damn thing.
I have provided an alternate link. Anyone with half a brain can do a google search and see that there is a plethora or peer reviewed source material on the subject of racial inequality in the judicial system if one is interested in actually learning.
You don't take orders? Then don't you ever accuse me of not being civil, got it? Good.
Anyone with less than half a brain can understand that in forums when one makes a claim, they back their words up. I'm not making a claim and I don't have to research a damn thing.
Do you understand how forums work? I guess not.
Also, the topic at hand is done. You showed what Tony didn't.
You need to calm down -- I don't respond to threats
The links are there for anyone should they care to research racial disparity within the judicial system.
Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,472
Palm Beach, Florida, US
IMO people like Zimmerman that struggle with control issues and teenie weenie complex often resort to carrying guns, become cops or become keyboard jockeys so they can bark orders from the safety of an internet keyboard to feel powerful.
The common thread is cowardice and grandiosity. I guess that is what they need to feel like more of a man.
Zimmerman's obsession with law enforcement when he was clearly unsuited is very telling of what kind of person he is.
The only explanation for all this intense hatred towards Zimmerman is because he is Hispanic. It is obvious that some posters have had relationships or been taught bigoted views from their parents.
The funny thing is, if you read through this thread, the most hatred comes from our most liberal members. You can almost smell the desire for a lynching. Revenge. Blood to spill.
Sad... really sad.
Please respect the rule of law and let the process play out. To spue so much hate is not healthy for you or society.
Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US
What Fun Productions wrote: The only explanation for all this intense hatred towards Zimmerman is because he is Hispanic. It is obvious that some posters have had relationships or been taught bigoted views from their parents.
The funny thing is, if you read through this thread, the most hatred comes from our most liberal members. You can almost smell the desire for a lynching. Revenge. Blood to spill.
Sad... really sad.
It is hilarious that your mind goes straight to the race card... Hmmmm....
Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US
T wrote: I'm here to keepz all the wimmen in check. Got it? Good!
Yeah... If you don't do what I want, I'm going to get all worked up, walk around mad all day, AND TYPE IN CAPS!!!! All while you dismiss me, have a laugh, and go on about your day!!!
Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,472
Palm Beach, Florida, US
Guss W wrote:
He was a community activist, trying to improve a neighborhood on the skids.
He was a wannabe cop on a power trip. Not fit for the police force so he resorted to heading up the neighborhood watch program while carrying a loaded handgun.
Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US
chicchowmein wrote:
one plus one equals four
From the mind of what fun. "Unarmed teenager. Armed assailant stalks him. Police said to stop following him. Assailant continues stalking. Assailant confronts unarmed teenager. Fight ensues. Assailant murders unarmed teenager... Why would anyone be angry with Zimmerman - it's got to be because he's hispanic!!!"
The widely-discussed phenomenon of “driving
while black” illustrates the potential abuse of
discretion by law enforcement. A two-year studyof 13,566 officer-initiated traffic stops in a Midwestern
city revealed that minority drivers were
stopped at a higher rate than whites and were also
searched for contraband at a higher rate than their
white counterparts. Yet, officers were no more
likely to find contraband on minority motorists
than white motorists.3
• A New York state study found that minorities
charged with felonies were more likely to be detained
than whites. The researchers concluded
that 10 percent of minorities detained in New
York City and 33 percent in other parts of the
state would have been released prior to arraignment
if minorities were detained at the rate of
comparably situated whites.
Based on the blatant lack of objectivity found in this thread, I would now question any such "study". I used to think that people like Sharpton were just some sort of rare circus act with their constant absurd charges, but now it's looking more and more like this sort of absurdity is baked into certain people's entire thought processes. it certainly explains a lot.
Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,472
Palm Beach, Florida, US
Lightcraft Studio wrote:
Based on the blatant lack of objectivity found in this thread, I would now question any such "study". I used to think that people like Sharpton were just some sort of rare circus act with their constant absurd charges, but now it's looking more and more like this sort of absurdity is baked into certain people's entire thought processes. it certainly explains a lot.
That makes total sense. Opinions in this thread would make any studies or empirical data totally suspect.
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