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udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


MM's NYC Cabal (on Facebook)

Description:
"Model Mayhem's New York City Cabal is a meeting place for MM'ers that live in the metropolitan area of NYC or close enough to be able to participate in the occasional meeting to have a beer a herbal tea, to talk shop in person and organize group meetings to hang out and socialize."









January 21, New York City: Inofficial Model Mayhem Meetup


On Facebook:

January 21, New York City: Inofficial MM Meet & Greet


At                    The Pink Pony
                         176 Ludlow St,
                  New York, New York 10002
                         (212) 253-1922

                         7 PM EST
                               until
                     the memory card is full!


On MM Events:

January 21, New York City's 1st MM Party of 2013






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So, I have been contacted by MM'ers in OT or PM regarding getting together and hanging out.

We used to have events like that many years ago, a few times a year, and because there are so many shooters, models, MUA's, stylists etc. specifically in the NYC metropolitan area and those were always a great deal of fun.

I haven't seen those and checked with some other old timers and they told me that it's almost impossible to organize such events, because the administration put some new rules about events into place and those are disappearing so fast that nobody is able to see those and to get organized.

Don't know the whole story yet... but, considering the great community that we had, were me met anybody from Brian Diaz, to Stephen Bodi, Ched Beckwith, Nemi Bea, Mark,  to name just a small selection that comes immediately to my mind to network, having a few beers and just shooting the crap... smile

Does anybody have an idea how we can get organized for a meetup, without violating MM's Rules&Regs?

I mean... if there is any interest beyond the four people that have contacted me... smile




MM's NYC Cabal (on Facebook)

Description:
"Model Mayhem's New York City Cabal is a meeting place for MM'ers that live in the metropolitan area of NYC or close enough to be able to participate in the occasional meeting to have a beer a herbal tea, to talk shop in person and organize group meetings to hang out and socialize."
Dec 01 12 09:15 am  Link  Quote 
Model
immateria
Posts: 15,446
Brooklyn, New York, US


Maybe set up a separate page on meetup.com?

I'd be down.
Dec 01 12 09:19 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,338
Martinez, California, US


udor wrote:
Does anybody have an idea how we can get organized for a meetup, without violating MM's Rules&Regs?

http://www.modelmayhem.com/t.php?forum_id=12

Dec 01 12 09:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


I know... I was warned about this forum as extremely inefficient for a real get together, old style, as we had it...

Found a solution tho... smile

Dec 01 12 09:36 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


immateria wrote:
Maybe set up a separate page on meetup.com?

I'd be down.

ModelMayhem's NYC Cabal (on Facebook)

Dec 01 12 09:38 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 16,091
New York, New York, US


I'm down:)

I have to meet a designer soon anyway:)
Dec 01 12 09:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


Jules NYC wrote:
I'm down:)

I have to meet a designer soon anyway:)

Julie! Check the FB link! smile

I've got to let Blue Moon know too! smile

Dec 01 12 09:49 am  Link  Quote 
Model
immateria
Posts: 15,446
Brooklyn, New York, US


Request sent.

Dec 01 12 09:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Im down
I went to some of the NY MM events back in the day was great connecting with people from the site face to face
Dec 01 12 09:50 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 16,091
New York, New York, US


udor wrote:

Julie! Check the FB link! smile

I've got to let Blue Moon know too! smile

I don't have a FB account!
Must make it public:)

Dec 01 12 09:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


Jules NYC wrote:
I don't have a FB account!
Must make it public:)

Oh... damn... okay!

Done... can you check if it works for you now...

Dec 01 12 10:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Jules NYC wrote:

I don't have a FB account!
Must make it public:)

Ditto
I dont have one either
Please post here as well when you announce event

Dec 01 12 10:22 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 16,091
New York, New York, US


udor wrote:

Oh... damn... okay!

Done... can you check if it works for you now...

'tis not working Udor:)

Dec 01 12 10:23 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5,412
New York, New York, US


Not sure what's so complicated about the MM rules on Events. I used to host one every Monday night with pretty good success, and those rules have not changed. Granted I had free access to the space (cafe) and attendance varied from 6-35 people each week.
If I had time to host another one, I wouldn't do it on a weekly basis though. It becomes routine after a while.
Dec 01 12 10:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


RacerXPhoto wrote:
Ditto
I dont have one either
Please post here as well when you announce event
Jules NYC wrote:
'tis not working Udor:)

Okay... I'll think of something... maybe a meetup.com group...

But, there are already 35 MM'ers signed up and the numbers are rising... goes pretty quick...

Meetup.com charges for the group... just tried to create one... so, we are going to stay on FB and will post on MM Event forum when we organize something with a definite date.

Dec 01 12 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5,412
New York, New York, US


udor wrote:

Okay... I'll think of something... maybe a meetup.com group...

But, there are already 35 MM'ers signed up and the numbers are rising... goes pretty quick...

Just start a thread in "Events" when the first event is organized, then bump it ahead of the next one. I made a point of keeping mine on the first page and it worked pretty well.


Here is the old Dame: http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=261719

Dec 01 12 10:46 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


tenrocK photo wrote:
Just start a thread in "Events" when the first event is organized, then bump it ahead of the next one. I made a point of keeping mine on the first page and it worked pretty well.

Nah... got a different solution... well... not totally different.

I intent the FB group to be something where people can either loosely organize a get together, or a larger event...

Once we organize a larger MM event on FB and set a date, we will make a post in the MM Event Section with an official announcement of that unofficial MM member's get together...

This way, we can have a permanent group and just crossposting... it's better for the community...

You'll see... wink

Dec 01 12 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


tenrocK photo wrote:

Just start a thread in "Events" when the first event is organized, then bump it ahead of the next one. I made a point of keeping mine on the first page and it worked pretty well.


Here is the old Dame: http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=261719

Your old Dame is more a grandchild... LOL

We had our first NY MM meetings in 2005... big_smile

Dec 01 12 11:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5,412
New York, New York, US


udor wrote:

Your old Dame is more a grandchild... LOL

We had our first NY MM meetings in 2005... big_smile

I wasn't born yet...

Dec 01 12 11:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lawrence Guy
Posts: 17,653
LAKE PEEKSKILL, New York, US


Only problem there is I'm boycotting FB.

Dec 01 12 11:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BlueMoonPics
Posts: 4,213
New York, New York, US


Yups, I joined the fb group.
I feel complicit in this since I did a couple of pms to get the ball rolling.
Thanks Udor.
Dec 01 12 12:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 6,063
New York, New York, US


immateria wrote:
Maybe set up a separate page on meetup.com?

I'd be down.

That makes the most sense to me, but I have to admit that as a 75-year old non-drinker, who only shoots trade, and who tends to be uncomfortable in this sort of group situation, I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable participating.

That said, I think it's a terrific idea but I'm not at all sure how well it can work, given that there is such a wide range of experience, skill and interest sets on MM, especially in the New York area.  And the sheer potential size of such a group is somewhat staggering.  With a base population of over 50,000 members within a 50 mile radius, the problem is less one of if the effort fails than one of if it succeeds.  I can't imagine renting Yankee stadium for an informal get-together!  Although some of that might be resolved by forming separate special interest groups, one for fashion, one for art, one for fetish, etc. but then there are already a number of such meet-up groups around town and unless there were some sort of steering committee pulling them together around the central theme of MM, (which I'd imagine, would be kinda like herding cats) they would lose sight of the original purpose in short order.

Another stumbling block would be the divide between those who do this for fun and those who do it for pay.  I have tried a couple of model/photographer meetups but found that this schism developed pretty quickly, which killed what interest I had.  It apparently killed what interest the others had as well because they seemed to die after the first few meetings only to be replaced by other, similar groups.

I'm not trying to be the Grinch here--I do think it would be a very valuable and fun thing to have, especially for the newcomers, but it would also be hard to get rolling and to keep rolling.

All IMHO, as always.

Dec 01 12 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Nemi
Posts: 27,411
Jamaica, New York, US


Rays Fine Art wrote:

That makes the most sense to me, but I have to admit that as a 75-year old non-drinker, who only shoots trade, and who tends to be uncomfortable in this sort of group situation, I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable participating.

That said, I think it's a terrific idea but I'm not at all sure how well it can work, given that there is such a wide range of experience, skill and interest sets on MM, especially in the New York area.  And the sheer potential size of such a group is somewhat staggering.  With a base population of over 50,000 members within a 50 mile radius, the problem is less one of if the effort fails than one of if it succeeds.  I can't imagine renting Yankee stadium for an informal get-together!  Although some of that might be resolved by forming separate special interest groups, one for fashion, one for art, one for fetish, etc. but then there are already a number of such meet-up groups around town and unless there were some sort of steering committee pulling them together around the central theme of MM, (which I'd imagine, would be kinda like herding cats) they would lose sight of the original purpose in short order.

Another stumbling block would be the divide between those who do this for fun and those who do it for pay.  I have tried a couple of model/photographer meetups but found that this schism developed pretty quickly, which killed what interest I had.  It apparently killed what interest the others had as well because they seemed to die after the first few meetings only to be replaced by other, similar groups.

I'm not trying to be the Grinch here--I do think it would be a very valuable and fun thing to have, especially for the newcomers, but it would also be hard to get rolling and to keep rolling.

All IMHO, as always.

It's totally not that complicated. We would set a time and date that worked for most people, and take over a restaurant or a bar. Sometimes we'd have a space reserved for us, sometimes we would just invade in droves sporting MM t shirts to find each other lol

It worked.

Dec 01 12 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


BlueMoonPics wrote:
Yups, I joined the fb group.
I feel complicit in this since I did a couple of pms to get the ball rolling.
Thanks Udor.

Yes!!! You were one of the instigators... smile

Dec 01 12 08:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 16,091
New York, New York, US


Why can't someone just suggest a place and just go to it without a big production and trailer.
Dec 01 12 08:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Gabrielle Heather
Posts: 10,064
Middle Island, New York, US


Im not joining that fb thing. I dont want people connected to me on there. I keep mm and fb separate. Not everyone has a business and personal fb. I will follow this thread. i dont leave my place much anyways though, but it might be fun to do this. Im out east on Long Island though.
Dec 01 12 08:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 16,091
New York, New York, US


Rudy's is cool on 9th Avenue
Dec 01 12 08:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5,412
New York, New York, US


Jules NYC wrote:
Rudy's is cool on 9th Avenue

Dive bar heh? Yeah, one of NYC's best for sure smile I actually like it there. You can meet every kind of soul and if you don't strike a conversation with a complete stranger within 10 minutes, you're doing it wrong lol

Dec 02 12 02:23 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


Nemi wrote:

It's totally not that complicated. We would set a time and date that worked for most people, and take over a restaurant or a bar. Sometimes we'd have a space reserved for us, sometimes we would just invade in droves sporting MM t shirts to find each other lol

It worked.

Exactly!

It's simple and not complicated at all... and it's not some "interest group" thing, Ray, it's for MM'ers of all ability, experience etc., to come out... hang, talk, meet, socialize, have fun without pressure.

Used to be great fun... people hooked up for photoshoots..., organized shoot-outs as a group... good friendships and camaraderie built up and also a lot of professional networks were established where pros were shooting each other job assignments they couldn't do...

As I said on FB, in a reply to Nemi, it's getting back to the roots of being a community.

Dec 02 12 03:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


Jules NYC wrote:
Why can't someone just suggest a place and just go to it without a big production and trailer.

That's the thing... it's about just suggesting, but it's also supposed to be a permanent/occasional forum where people can adhoc suggest a dive bar and three or five people show up... because they are connected on FB via that group.

Then there is the bigger unofficial MM event, which will be organized from there, and then an official event announcement is done on the MM Event section and the link should be posted in this thread! (you should subscribe to this thread, so you won't get lost)...

This should work for the FB boycotting crowd... smile

Dec 02 12 03:55 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
The F-Stop
Posts: 1,468
New York, New York, US


No FB here.

Casting call?

All NYC togs for interview at local pub?

I'm in!

Just tell me where n when?

BYOM?.. bring your own model?
Dec 02 12 07:06 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Nemi
Posts: 27,411
Jamaica, New York, US


The F-Stop wrote:
No FB here.

Casting call?

All NYC togs for interview at local pub?

I'm in!

Just tell me where n when?

BYOM?.. bring your own model?

DSLRs with large flashes were (are?) discouraged at events, banned at some (mostly due to one very rude member who was the primary reason I stopped going to outings) this is really just to socialize.
No interview, no casting. Just letting your hair down and hanging out.
This is from a New York meet up years back, the outdoor patio of a bar. There were about 20-30 people that night. This was just a small snap I took because I thought it was funny the smokers decided to huddle together from the cold.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/MMMeet014.jpg

This was how we found each other, VERY sophisticated and complex:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/MMMeet010.jpg
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This was a Halloween party, There were little pieces of paper that had MM scribbled on them folded on to tables. I think this was the last  "official" meet up I went to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/MMcostumeparty002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/MMcostumeparty007.jpg

Dec 02 12 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Wicked Photos
Posts: 7,576
New York, New York, US


this sounds like fun.. i'd be down to attend if i timing it right.

about 2 years ago, or maybe more, i went to this meetup in the upper west side. it was just a bunch of guys in the back of the bar drinking and having a grand time.
Dec 02 12 12:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Roy Hubbard
Posts: 2,799
New York, New York, US


We could set up an offsite bulletin board or forum agnostic of any social networks or other membership sites. Say the word and it's done.
Dec 02 12 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art Of Imaging
Posts: 13,097
Brooklyn, New York, US


im in!
Dec 02 12 02:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lawrence Guy
Posts: 17,653
LAKE PEEKSKILL, New York, US


Roy Hubbard wrote:
We could set up an offsite bulletin board or forum agnostic of any social networks or other membership sites. Say the word and it's done.

Word.

Dec 02 12 02:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
ashara
Posts: 988
Brewster, New York, US


Lawrence Guy wrote:

Word.

Out of curiousity, where in Putnam Valley do you live?

Dec 02 12 03:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ACPhotography
Posts: 8,621
Plainview, New York, US


udor wrote:
So, I have been contacted by MM'ers in OT or PM regarding getting together and hanging out.

We used to have events like that many years ago, a few times a year, and because there are so many shooters, models, MUA's, stylists etc. specifically in the NYC metropolitan area and those were always a great deal of fun.

I haven't seen those and checked with some other old timers and they told me that it's almost impossible to organize such events, because the administration put some new rules about events into place and those are disappearing so fast that nobody is able to see those and to get organized.

Don't know the whole story yet... but, considering the great community that we had, were me met anybody from Brian Diaz, to Stephen Bodi, Ched Beckwith, Nemi Bea, Mark,  to name just a small selection that comes immediately to my mind to network, having a few beers and just shooting the crap... smile

Does anybody have an idea how we can get organized for a meetup, without violating MM's Rules&Regs?

I mean... if there is any interest beyond the four people that have contacted me... smile




EDIT: Just created
ModelMayhem's NYC Cabal (on Facebook)

Description:
"Model Mayhem's New York City Cabal is a meeting place for MM'ers that live in the metropolitan area of NYC or close enough to be able to participate in the occasional meeting to have a beer a herbal tea, to talk shop in person and organize group meetings to hang out and socialize."

I'm in... I may be able to con Mark into coming out, I'm sure Bodi would...

Dec 02 12 04:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 22,061
New York, New York, US


ACPhotography wrote:

I'm in... I may be able to con Mark into coming out, I'm sure Bodi would...

Stephen is already in and added members to the FB group! smile

Dec 02 12 04:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ACPhotography
Posts: 8,621
Plainview, New York, US


udor wrote:

Stephen is already in and added members to the FB group! smile

I get added to so many groups I may already be a member, lol...

Dec 02 12 04:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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