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Digital Grace Photog
Posts: 3
Columbus, Ohio, US


I'm going for the record for most negative comments in a single topic.  I know there is a lot of goof balls out there that complain about a topic no matter what it is.  They have no common sense and try to make themselves feel better by putting other's down.  Here it goes: Why the hell are you posting cell phone pics and all around noisy, dark, crappy, unedited images as part of your port.  Really?  How disrespectful, on top of that you want to get paid how much to do a shoot with that kind of port.  You shouldn't get paid $5/hour let alone $50 to $100/hour to do a paid shoot.  No matter if it's nude or not.  You want to get paid to do a shoot, then set up a port worthy of getting paid for.  Something that shows your at the very least a little professional. 

            Which leads me to my next point:  Just because you can get naked doesn't mean you should and most definitively don't post them as part of your profile.  I am not the best or most talented photographer and I know that but I do have a port that is somewhat decent.  At least I have put an effort into making my port look good.  I would say it's in the top 40% of all photographer portfolio's on MM.  I am not a great editor, although I do dabble a little and I don't have boats load of money to pay people to properly edit my images.  I have seen some amazing images and really awesome photographer's on here and find it disrespectful when someone don't take the time to put forth a proper effort in creating a decent port.

              There are so many photographer's that are willing to shoot for free there's no reason to post cell phone pics or images that are noisy, dark, and all around look bad.  If your a photographer doing this, then shame on you.  Take a little pride in your work and do some editing before posting.  You don't have to be a professional to have a decent port, you can just be doing this for fun and still look good.  Enough Said!!!
Dec 02 12 10:46 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Bunny Bombshell
Posts: 11,752
Huntington, West Virginia, US


Even though I agree with the sentiment of your post, you're not telling us anything most of us don't already know
Dec 02 12 10:49 am  Link  Quote 
Model
DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,285
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
I'm going for the record for most negative comments in a single topic.  I know there is a lot of goof balls out there that complain about a topic no matter what it is.  They have no common sense and try to make themselves feel better by putting other's down.  Here it goes: Why the hell are you posting cell phone pics and all around noisy, dark, crappy, unedited images as part of your port.  Really?  How disrespectful, on top of that you want to get paid how much to do a shoot with that kind of port.  You shouldn't get paid $5/hour let alone $50 to $100/hour to do a paid shoot.  No matter if it's nude or not.  You want to get paid to do a shoot, then set up a port worthy of getting paid for.  Something that shows your at the very least a little professional. 

            Which leads me to my next point:  Just because you can get naked doesn't mean you should and most definitively don't post them as part of your profile.  I am not the best or most talented photographer and I know that but I do have a port that is somewhat decent.  At least I have put an effort into making my port look good.  I would say it's in the top 40% of all photographer portfolio's on MM.  I am not a great editor, although I do dabble a little and I don't have boats load of money to pay people to properly edit my images.  I have seen some amazing images and really awesome photographer's on here and find it disrespectful when someone don't take the time to put forth a proper effort in creating a decent port.

              There are so many photographer's that are willing to shoot for free there's no reason to post cell phone pics or images that are noisy, dark, and all around look bad.  If your a photographer doing this, then shame on you.  Take a little pride in your work and do some editing before posting.  You don't have to be a professional to have a decent port, you can just be doing this for fun and still look good.  Enough Said!!!

Cool story, bro.

The same could be said for too much post work  :shrug:

Meat to one, is poison to another.

Dec 02 12 10:51 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Ashley Riot
Posts: 120
Chicago, Illinois, US


Post hidden on Dec 02, 2012 11:29 am
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unsolicited critique
Dec 02 12 11:00 am  Link 
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,071
Orlando, Florida, US


Best first post EVAR!
Dec 02 12 11:02 am  Link  Quote 
Model
DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,285
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


Post hidden on Dec 02, 2012 11:30 am
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quotes hidden post
Dec 02 12 11:03 am  Link 
Model
DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,285
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Best first post EVAR!

inorite?!  lol







IBTL

Dec 02 12 11:03 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photos 4 The Memories
Posts: 1,275
Kewaskum, Wisconsin, US


Well here is a post about the same thing. Also IBTL
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?threa … st17203107
Dec 02 12 11:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38,005
Gibraltar, Michigan, US


That's nice dear
Dec 02 12 11:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tog
Posts: 55,204
Birmingham, Alabama, US


1) Rinse.
Dec 02 12 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tog
Posts: 55,204
Birmingham, Alabama, US


2) Repeat.
Dec 02 12 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dan K Photography
Posts: 5,409
STATEN ISLAND, New York, US


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
Which leads me to my next point:  Just because you can get naked doesn't mean you should and most definitively don't post them as part of your profile.  I am not the best or most talented photographer and I know that but I do have a port that is somewhat decent.  At least I have put an effort into making my port look good.  I would say it's in the top 40% of all photographer portfolio's on MM.

Yeah, the thing is all those people whos ports you are making fun of think that they have a port that is somewhat decent and is in the top 40% of all ports on MM.

Dec 02 12 11:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GK photo
Posts: 27,425
Laguna Beach, California, US


Good Egg Productions wrote:
Best first post EVAR!

hey, at least it wasn't spam, or a vote for me. smile

Dec 02 12 12:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/22000000/Super-Cool-Story-Bro-super-mario-bros-22074555-600-562.jpg
Dec 02 12 12:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Gianantonio
Posts: 7,712
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
I'm going for the record for most negative comments in a single topic.  I know there is a lot of goof balls out there that complain about a topic no matter what it is.  They have no common sense and try to make themselves feel better by putting other's down.  Here it goes: Why the hell are you posting cell phone pics and all around noisy, dark, crappy, unedited images as part of your port.  Really?  How disrespectful, on top of that you want to get paid how much to do a shoot with that kind of port.  You shouldn't get paid $5/hour let alone $50 to $100/hour to do a paid shoot.  No matter if it's nude or not.  You want to get paid to do a shoot, then set up a port worthy of getting paid for.  Something that shows your at the very least a little professional. 

            Which leads me to my next point:  Just because you can get naked doesn't mean you should and most definitively don't post them as part of your profile.  I am not the best or most talented photographer and I know that but I do have a port that is somewhat decent.  At least I have put an effort into making my port look good.  I would say it's in the top 40% of all photographer portfolio's on MM.  I am not a great editor, although I do dabble a little and I don't have boats load of money to pay people to properly edit my images.  I have seen some amazing images and really awesome photographer's on here and find it disrespectful when someone don't take the time to put forth a proper effort in creating a decent port.

              There are so many photographer's that are willing to shoot for free there's no reason to post cell phone pics or images that are noisy, dark, and all around look bad.  If your a photographer doing this, then shame on you.  Take a little pride in your work and do some editing before posting.  You don't have to be a professional to have a decent port, you can just be doing this for fun and still look good.  Enough Said!!!

I think if you understood what art is, you wouldn't have posted your OP...

Dec 02 12 12:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I was going to say something... But then it would be an unsolicited critique.
Dec 02 12 12:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,824
Portland, Oregon, US


Congratulations on your first forum post.

Digital Grace Photog wrote:
Why the hell are you posting cell phone pics and all around noisy, dark, crappy, unedited images as part of your port.

This is nothing wrong with cell phone pictures.  They can be fun, spontaneous, and aesthetically pleasing.  Sure, there are technical quality limitations, but I would rather look at an interesting picture than a boring but technically perfect picture.  Aesthetics are more important than technology.

When I went to school, back in the dark (pre-digital) ages, ...
...  Beginning students learned basic exposure & darkroom on film SLRs,
...  Intermediate students learned the Zone System & advance darkroom
     techniques with 4x5 view cameras, and
...  Advanced students were given a $5, all plastic Diana camera with fixed
     focus, 4 exposure settings, and typically some light leaks.

So, stop being snobby.  The camera is a tool, and a great photographer is an artist.


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
You shouldn't get paid $5/hour let alone $50 to $100/hour to do a paid shoot.  No matter if it's nude or not.  You want to get paid to do a shoot, then set up a port worthy of getting paid for.  Something that shows your at the very least a little professional.

You don't get to decide who gets paid and who doesn't; you only get to decide whether you want to pay them or not.  But if they are getting people to pay them $500 an hour, more power to them.  If they aren't getting any job offers, they'll figure it out.  You don't have to inflict us with your prejudices.


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
Which leads me to my next point:  Just because you can get naked doesn't mean you should and most definitively don't post them as part of your profile.

That looks like the same point -- at least, the answer is the same.  If a model gets work posing nude, more power to them; if not, not.  You only get to decide whether you want to hire them.  Anything else is none of your business. 

Also, there  are hobbyists on this site, many of whom don't care whether they get paid.  Leave room for them to exist.


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
There are so many photographer's that are willing to shoot for free there's no reason to post cell phone pics or images that are noisy, dark, and all around look bad.  If your a photographer doing this, then shame on you.

Shame on you for offering an unsolicited critique.  People get to decide what they want to put into their portfolios, not you.

Dec 02 12 12:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photos 4 The Memories
Posts: 1,275
Kewaskum, Wisconsin, US


I think the OP needs a mercy lock.
Dec 02 12 12:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kev Lawson
Posts: 6,673
Fort Myers, Florida, US


Photos 4 The Memories  wrote:
I think the OP needs a mercy lock.

nooooo... i like reading how others feel on his issues smile

Dec 02 12 12:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,370
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
I'm going for the record for most negative comments in a single topic....

Need attention?

Dec 02 12 12:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
The Matthew Ross
Posts: 2,687
Tulsa, Oklahoma, US


Looknsee Photography wrote:
Congratulations on your first forum post.

Digital Grace Photog wrote:
Why the hell are you posting cell phone pics and all around noisy, dark, crappy, unedited images as part of your port.

This is nothing wrong with cell phone pictures.  They can be fun, spontaneous, and aesthetically pleasing.  Sure, there are technical quality limitations, but I would rather look at an interesting picture than a boring but technically perfect picture.  Aesthetics are more important than technology.

When I went to school, back in the dark (pre-digital) ages, ...
...  Beginning students learned basic exposure & darkroom on film SLRs,
...  Intermediate students learned the Zone System & advance darkroom
     techniques with 4x5 view cameras, and
...  Advanced students were given a $5, all plastic Diana camera with fixed
     focus, 4 exposure settings, and typically some light leaks.

So, stop being snobby.  The camera is a tool, and a great photographer is an artist.


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
You shouldn't get paid $5/hour let alone $50 to $100/hour to do a paid shoot.  No matter if it's nude or not.  You want to get paid to do a shoot, then set up a port worthy of getting paid for.  Something that shows your at the very least a little professional.

You don't get to decide who gets paid and who doesn't; you only get to decide whether you want to pay them or not.  But if they are getting people to pay them $500 an hour, more power to them.  If they aren't getting any job offers, they'll figure it out.  You don't have to inflict us with your prejudices.


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
Which leads me to my next point:  Just because you can get naked doesn't mean you should and most definitively don't post them as part of your profile.

That looks like the same point -- at least, the answer is the same.  If a model gets work posing nude, more power to them; if not, not.  You only get to decide whether you want to hire them.  Anything else is none of your business. 

Also, there  are hobbyists on this site, many of whom don't care whether they get paid.  Leave room for them to exist.



Shame on you for offering an unsolicited critique.  People get to decide what they want to put into their portfolios, not you.

+1

And an Internet hug.

Dec 02 12 12:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,285
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


In Balance Photography wrote:
Need attention?

Apparently.  He's posted one post, and hasn't been back.  LOLOL

Obvious new http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iw5TaUpM1OI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABg/oWjr6XtVW8o/s120-c/photo.jpg is obvious.

Dec 02 12 12:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photos 4 The Memories
Posts: 1,275
Kewaskum, Wisconsin, US


DivaEroticus wrote:
Apparently.  He's posted one post, and hasn't been back.  LOLOL

Obvious new http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iw5TaUpM1OI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABg/oWjr6XtVW8o/s120-c/photo.jpg is obvious.

Or could be scared but I think you are right.

Dec 02 12 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
a raw muse
Posts: 2,941
Brooklyn, New York, US


neutral
Dec 02 12 12:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


Photos 4 The Memories  wrote:
Or could be scared but I think you are right.

He may be confounded by that new tag on his profile.

Dec 02 12 12:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,285
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:

He may be confounded by that new tag on his profile.

There is that.

Dec 02 12 01:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Orca Bay Images wrote:

He may be confounded by that new tag on his profile.

Most delicious! big_smile

Dec 02 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kev Lawson
Posts: 6,673
Fort Myers, Florida, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:

He may be confounded by that new tag on his profile.

ouch!

Dec 02 12 01:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Bunny Bombshell
Posts: 11,752
Huntington, West Virginia, US


Obviously, I responded before I actually saw his port... No words
Dec 02 12 01:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38,005
Gibraltar, Michigan, US


Poor fella
Dec 02 12 01:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
DivaEroticus
Posts: 14,285
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US


Ms Selina K wrote:
Obviously, I responded before I actually saw his port... No words

w0rd.  :nodding:

Dec 02 12 01:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 32,233
Lodi, California, US


SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
Poor fella

lol

Dec 02 12 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
intense_puppy
Posts: 862
Brighton, England, United Kingdom


Digital Grace Photog wrote:
Enough Said!!!

You're unhappy, aren't you?

Dec 02 12 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
meower
Posts: 36
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


I only have crappy phone pictures to put up, had my first one hour shoot yesterday. ;p
Dec 02 12 01:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 35,971
Columbus, Ohio, US


Tog wrote:
1) Rinse.
Tog wrote:
2) Repeat.

Don't forget dry.

Dec 02 12 01:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sirensong
Posts: 2,173
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom


Dear OP..

Trolling is bad M'kay?
Dec 02 12 02:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Sweet
Posts: 190
Denver, Colorado, US


If people in the bottom 60% put in more work, you might not be in the top 40% any more.

Do you really want that?

You should be encouraging people to work less, post more cell phone pics, and suck more.

That way, you might make it to the top 30%.
Dec 02 12 04:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kev Lawson
Posts: 6,673
Fort Myers, Florida, US


Orca Bay Images wrote:
He may be confounded by that new tag on his profile.

the tag is gone now... oh well

Dec 02 12 06:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Aaron Lewis Photography
Posts: 5,078
Catskill, New York, US


In the OP's defence, he has been bottling up his anger and self confidence issues for more than a year now.

Someone please share the missing tag with the group smile
Dec 02 12 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Autumn Rose Brightly
Posts: 1,063
Charlotte, North Carolina, US


You sound like you need a hug and a drink
Dec 02 12 07:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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