Top Level Studio
Posts: 3,208
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
RoryBanwellPhotography wrote: I am a female photographer (don't let my name fool you) and was wondering which sex models (regardless of gender) feel more comfortable with..
Pro's and Con's of each??
Which sex models feel more comfortable with pros than with cons? Or ex-cons, for that matter?
JoJo Contest Queen
Posts: 20,834
Clearwater, Florida, US
Pros of a female photographer...
a female photographer knows a little better how the female body turns/twists/bends thus eliminating "now lift your right foot... higher... great... now lift your left foot... wadda mean you can't float?"
a female photographer usually doesn't resort to "oh ya baby, gimme more of that" and "go girl, yer makin me hot" and "oh ya, you got my little friend paying attention now"
* llamas who are professional in attitude won't care if you're male, female, whatever, as long as you are professional as well and get the job done.
However, there can (though not frequently, in my experience) be times where you'll find a llama who prefers a female photographer.
There are some llamas who might only feel comfortable shooting certain content (like boudoir, glamour, or nudes) with another female. There are some newbie llamas who feel shooting with a female might put them a little at ease while they get more experience and comfort in front of the camera. If your llama is under 18, who knows, they could just have super picky parents who would prefer their daughter doesn't work with older men.
The possibilities are endless of why or why not a llama may or may not prefer to work with a photographer of a certain gender, male or female.
It may depend on the model to large extent but does it not depend on which male or female photographer you're speaking about?
Surely the photographer's personality plays a bigger role than his or her's sex? There are two female photographers in my locality and I regularly get customers who have booked one of them and will never again do so. Yet they return to me again. It's not that I'm anything special but rather that both of these women lack personality and tact.
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,003
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
no difference in level of comfort, but I do notice a little difference in approach between male and female photographers. But I have no preference for one or the other.
a female photographer knows a little better how the female body turns/twists/bends thus eliminating "now lift your right foot... higher... great... now lift your left foot... wadda mean you can't float?"
a female photographer usually doesn't resort to "oh ya baby, gimme more of that" and "go girl, yer makin me hot" and "oh ya, you got my little friend paying attention now"
Jo Jo.. Serious? Photographers have actually said those things?.... Sounds like a bad Austin Powers line....
Sita Mae
Posts: 19,534
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
Many models over the years have commented that they particularly like working with female photographers, because they don't have to worry about being hit on. I don't know if that means they forget that gay women take pictures too, or if they just assume that any female photographer who is attracted to them will have good manners and not act on it, but there you go. That's my experience.
I notice that no one has mentioned any reasons why a male photographer might be better.
I've had more than one model tell me that they prefer a male photographer because they worry that in nude posing that another female may be more critical of any imperfections that they might have and that men don't seem to notice or at least don't mention that kind of thing.
It depends more on the individual themselves then the sex of the photographer...though I haven't had a female tog throw out some of the comments male togs have.
I work with both, and find that the female photographers (and artists as well) almost always have a different attitude than the men toward their work. I am very comfortable working with both.
Not to say there is anything wrong with either viewpoint, but the women seem to pay a bit more attention to the little details and will spend more time during a studio photo shoot setting things up to get the perfect shot. For outdoor and location work, the results from both seem to be about the same.
Every photographer and artist I work with has made comments about my body or appearance, all of them quite positive, and the compliments from the females are sometimes more specific than the males. I think it is mostly due to my age and the fact that there are not many nude models who are older.
La Lana wrote: It depends more on the individual themselves then the sex of the photographer...though I haven't had a female tog throw out some of the comments male togs have.
LOL
I'll never throw out any weird comments to a model..as long as they don't call me a tog
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,003
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
Wolfy4u wrote: I notice that no one has mentioned any reasons why a male photographer might be better.
I've had more than one model tell me that they prefer a male photographer because they worry that in nude posing that another female may be more critical of any imperfections that they might have and that men don't seem to notice or at least don't mention that kind of thing.
I think there are some models who are uncomfortable being alone with a man and these are generally the ones that like to bring an escort. I know one model really liked that I was female and felt less nervous. That's likely the only real difference, if a model is a bit uncomfortable with males, and I'm sure there are some not comfortable with females.
For models it really doesn't make a big difference, other than if you want to be paid. Male photographers are many times more likely to pay for testing.
When working with the general public, female photographers have an edge when it comes to boudoir. Often they are specifically requested by female clients.
intense_puppy
Posts: 832
Brighton, England, United Kingdom
Anna Adrielle wrote: no difference in level of comfort, but I do notice a little difference in approach between male and female photographers. But I have no preference for one or the other.
I'm interested to know how you think male and female photographers approaches differ? (Apologies if this is a derailment)
in the boudoir biz you see shops advertising FEMALE ONLY NO PERVY MALES ON OUR SET
one thing i have heard is boudoir customers lying to their SOs and saying that the photographer was female when in fact they were male (boudoir is often done as a gift for the SO)
and female photographers can get away with stuff that males can't. i know one female boudoir photographer who is basically like "let's get you drunk and naked and make some fun pictures" (if a male advertised like that he'd probably wind up on a sex offender list).
As a model and photographer(RnR Photos) I'm fine with either. Its more about the connection that I have with the other person. Whether its our first time working together or our 100th. I have two models I shoot often and we always have a good and productive time. As a model I am still looking for a photographer that I vibe with but recently shot with a old classmate(edit: btw, it was a male) and it turned into a awesome adventure.
I think its whatever you are comfortable with. And if gender makes it more comfortable...then by all means. Cause it WILL show in your work.
LLOYD WRIGHT
Posts: 652
Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom
JoJo wrote: Pros of a female photographer...
a female photographer knows a little better how the female body turns/twists/bends thus eliminating "now lift your right foot... higher... great... now lift your left foot... wadda mean you can't float?"
a female photographer usually doesn't resort to "oh ya baby, gimme more of that" and "go girl, yer makin me hot" and "oh ya, you got my little friend paying attention now"
i guess i've mutated into a female photographer overnight... gonna have some fun in the mirror! hehehe
I'm curious as to "why" the OP asked the question in the first place. Even if you could get a consensus answer (and you obviously won't), what would you do with the information?
If the answer was X and you happen to be Y, you can't (easily) change your own gender, and you're not likely to change the minds of those who favor X (or Y). So why do you need to know?
a female photographer knows a little better how the female body turns/twists/bends thus eliminating "now lift your right foot... higher... great... now lift your left foot... wadda mean you can't float?"
a female photographer usually doesn't resort to "oh ya baby, gimme more of that" and "go girl, yer makin me hot" and "oh ya, you got my little friend paying attention now"
Have you been shooting with Austin Powers? This made me laugh out loud. I'm praying you were speaking in hyperbole.
Doesnt matter to me whatsoever. I can think of some of the best who are female. Just as a matter of my experience, Ive made more money with men, but Im definately comfortable either way.
Top Level Studio
Posts: 3,208
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Wolfy4u wrote: I notice that no one has mentioned any reasons why a male photographer might be better.
I've had more than one model tell me that they prefer a male photographer because they worry that in nude posing that another female may be more critical of any imperfections that they might have and that men don't seem to notice or at least don't mention that kind of thing.
Male photographers try to avoid saying things like, "Great tits you have! I envy you!"
Wolfy4u wrote: I notice that no one has mentioned any reasons why a male photographer might be better.
I've had more than one model tell me that they prefer a male photographer because they worry that in nude posing that another female may be more critical of any imperfections that they might have and that men don't seem to notice or at least don't mention that kind of thing.
I don't hold long discussions with models on this topic but I did once have a model tell me that she felt "Ickey" posing for a female model. Since it was only a side comment to the conversation, I didn't follow it up to find out how ickey or why.
a female photographer knows a little better how the female body turns/twists/bends thus eliminating "now lift your right foot... higher... great... now lift your left foot... wadda mean you can't float?"
a female photographer usually doesn't resort to "oh ya baby, gimme more of that" and "go girl, yer makin me hot" and "oh ya, you got my little friend paying attention now"
On the other hand... some male photographers spend a large amount, if not the bulk of their time thinking about and looking at female figures. Some might know rather well how a female body turns, twists, and bends... and might be very experienced in telling a female model how to move in a way that looks good from the camera's point of view. A significant portion of the target market for many photos of the female form are males... and as a male, the photographer might have even better insight as to what will make the picture successful than a female photographer might.
And hopefully, if he's a professional photographer... he won't need to mention his "little friend"..
Angelique Luff
Posts: 28
London, England, United Kingdom
I feel it really depends of the professionalism of the male photographer (whether he is just a GWC or not)
Like if he's a photographer who is taking his role seriously, I really don't mind the gender. They're both great, it really depends on the person then.
But you do get some male 'photographers' like
'ooooh sxi' 'ur so hot'
Whereas female photographers never attempt such vulgar language.
RoryBanwellPhotography wrote: I am a female photographer (don't let my name fool you) and was wondering which sex models (regardless of gender) feel more comfortable with..
Pro's and Con's of each??
I like to photograph what I like to look at. So it goes up saying I like to work with males.
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