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Photographer
Ivan Monge
Posts: 315
New York, New York, US


I rarely going to use it, but rather have it  and not need it than ...

I would like to stay around $150 bucks.

Like I stated all in one and one that can handle most type of memory cards, wireless, print pictures, etc ..

Thank you!
Dec 03 12 12:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,458
Brooklyn, New York, US


Heres the deal...
it will cost you more initial outlay but save $$ in the end
Your all in one should be monochrome laser
You will save so much in ink costs
You can get 1k or more prints on the orig toner
Get a basic photo printer to use just for images
If you wait for sales you can get both for $150 mark
Dec 03 12 04:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,152
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


RacerXPhoto wrote:
If you wait for sales you can get both for $150 mark

That's what I did (sorta, my all-in-one was the inkjet) a couple of years ago.

I got a cheap all-in-one Epson Stylus SX415, with the built in scanner.  Great for just doing quick scans and running off proofs (I only use it with Epson ink & Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl - which I have a custom ICC profile for).

For general printing, I have an HP LaserJet Pro P1102w wireless laser printer.

The Epson cost me about £40 (and, for comparison, a set of inks for it also costs about £40 - which is why I don't use it for general stuff).

The HP cost me about £65.  Toner cartridges for it cost me about £60, and I get a good 2-3000 sheets of mostly plain text out of each (official spec says 1600 sheets per cartridge, but I always get more).

For events I use the dye-subs, and for proper photo prints, I have a couple of companies that I use.

Dec 03 12 04:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,828
Portland, Oregon, US


I'm very happy with my Canon Pixma MP870.  Canon has newer llamas available now.

I do use it quite a bit, for...
...  "Regular" (e.g. B
Dec 03 12 06:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Aaron Lewis Photography
Posts: 5,078
Catskill, New York, US


All in Ones suck, plain and simple.
If you're rarely going to use it you definitely don't want ink jet or every time you do want to use it the ink will be dried up.

So that brings us to laser. My suggestion is a nice workgroup laser in whatever class you desire weather it be B&W or color. They're cheap enough now to do this.

If you want a photo printer they can be had pretty reasonable but the fact still remains that if you don't use it regularly, the ink will dry up.

Get a decent scanner is you need to scan. Something about $100 will provide much better images than an AIO device.

Do you really need a FAX machine?

Spend the money and save yourself a world of headaches.
Dec 03 12 09:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
photoimager
Posts: 4,799
Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom


'All in one', as in printer, scanner, fax and also able to give quality, saleable prints.

The two are very unlikely to co-exist.
Dec 04 12 12:44 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,672
Fresno, California, US


I don't recommend all in ones they are waste of money and time.
Dec 04 12 01:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Bravoscape
Posts: 259
Frederick, Maryland, US


Not sure your reason for needing an AIO. I went with a wireless laser printer. Photos are printed on a photo printer. Best tool for the job.

I installed an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 for a friend who owns a business. They love it.
Dec 04 12 04:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,152
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


fullmetalphotographer wrote:
I don't recommend all in ones they are waste of money and time.

That really depends on what you need it to do for you.

Dec 04 12 04:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KMP
Posts: 4,655
Houston, Texas, US


I bought an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600.

I was going through a bid/vendor process with a large client. There was lots of PDFs to print out and faxes to send.   I was able to scan their forms to PDF easily. It's wi-fi compatible so  I can connect to any computer and print from my cell phone, if I wanted. Which I have done.   It prints out super fast and easily works with my one line fax/voice line..

It's a fantastic printer but higher than $150.   I tried buying one in that price range but  didn't like it.  Basically I got what I paid for.   

I'm a big fan of the HP all-in-ones.  I've gotten years of great service from them.

Kaouthia wrote:

That really depends on what you need it to do for you.

This is Sooo true.. It would have been a real pain in the butt to not have one for my work.  It's saved me HOURS of time and frustration.

Dec 04 12 05:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,701
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Aaron Lewis Photography wrote:
All in Ones suck, plain and simple.
If you're rarely going to use it you definitely don't want ink jet or every time you do want to use it the ink will be dried up.

So that brings us to laser. My suggestion is a nice workgroup laser in whatever class you desire weather it be B&W or color. They're cheap enough now to do this.

If you want a photo printer they can be had pretty reasonable but the fact still remains that if you don't use it regularly, the ink will dry up.

Get a decent scanner is you need to scan. Something about $100 will provide much better images than an AIO device.

Do you really need a FAX machine?

Spend the money and save yourself a world of headaches.

Even the most expensive color lazers don't come close to the image quality of an inexpensive inkjet.

A better, non inkjet solution would be a thermal dye / dye sub printer, however practically any manufacturer that produced a  sub $300 unit that can do an 8"x10" went out of business quickly.

photoimager wrote:
'All in one', as in printer, scanner, fax and also able to give quality, saleable prints.

The two are very unlikely to co-exist.

Not true.
Canon's MX 892 (and many of the previous versions of it) uses the exact same engine and nozzles as they do in their photo inkjet printers.  In other words, it's the same printer with a different cover (the fax and other controls are built into the lid, not the printer body).

Dec 04 12 09:13 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GCobb Photography
Posts: 15,885
Southaven, Mississippi, US


Kaouthia wrote:

That really depends on what you need it to do for you.

Exactly, I've got quite an extensive IT career path and a $100 AIO would do exactly what I need it to do.  Sure, ink costs a bunch but what print cartridge or laser toner doesn't?

Dec 04 12 03:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GCobb Photography
Posts: 15,885
Southaven, Mississippi, US


SayCheeZ!  wrote:
Even the most expensive color lazers don't come close to the image quality of an inexpensive inkjet.

What?

Maybe you made an honest mistake when you said that.

Just one inexpensive example.

http://www.shop.xerox.com/shop/office-e … rqube-8570

Dec 04 12 03:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Best Light Images
Posts: 423
Palm City, Florida, US


Definitely take a look at Epson and the Epson refurb store. They usually have excellent deals on printers, year warranty, full set of inks and free shipping.
Dec 04 12 10:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,701
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


GCobb Photography wrote:
What?

Maybe you made an honest mistake when you said that.

Just one inexpensive example.

http://www.shop.xerox.com/shop/office-e … rqube-8570

A company that I worked for owned and used that same wax based printer and the toner version of that printer.  They're good for business graphics (such as pie charts and things like that).  They're OK with photos too, but far from exceptional.

We couldn't use the wax version here in the desert because if someone left the printed item in their car the wax would melt and smudge if it was touched.

Most decent photo inkjets are at least double the 2400dpi of the Xerox box.  Although dye subs are @ 300dpi, it's a continuous tone process so the effective resolution is much higher and not the same that you'd see on a 300dpi inkjet or lazer print.

The other problem with lazer printers... especially those wax ones... is that the printed part may/will have a shine to it, and the parts image that isn't printed (the white areas) will be matte.  There are some glossy papers made specially for laser printers, but if you're printing on matte paper the mismatch of shiny and matte on the same image kinda makes photos look weird .

I stand by what I said before.

Dec 05 12 01:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AspirationImages
Posts: 184
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Unless you are talking about printing CDs or need a fax machine you are wasting your money. IMHO if you want to print photographic prints then send them to a lab or be prepared to pay $1000+ for a pigment ink printer.
Dec 05 12 02:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 20,904
New York, New York, US


I think people are reading way too much into the OP's request...

No, an all-in-one will not make great photographic prints, nor will they scan negatives well.  So what?  I have a dedicated film scanner, flatbed scanner and high end inkjet printer.

I also have an HP Deskjet all in one and a high end canon laser all-in-one, for general printing, making copies, etc.  The canon is a workgroup printer used by all in my office.  The Deskjet sits on the credenza of my home office for when I need print up something quick or copy something at home.

I would recommend both, but at the price point the OP is looking at, I would recommend the desket.  It's wirelessly networked, is economical on ink (that's relative) does a fantastic job, prints without borders and is quick and quiet.
Dec 05 12 08:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,701
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


AspirationImages wrote:
Unless you are talking about printing CDs or need a fax machine you are wasting your money. IMHO if you want to print photographic prints then send them to a lab or be prepared to pay $1000+ for a pigment ink printer.

Some of this misinformation amazes me.
Really!

Dec 05 12 08:52 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,370
Boston, Massachusetts, US


AspirationImages wrote:
Unless you are talking about printing CDs or need a fax machine you are wasting your money. IMHO if you want to print photographic prints then send them to a lab or be prepared to pay $1000+ for a pigment ink printer.

At first I thought this was baloney. Then I looked up the printer I just bought for $579 US shipping included.

$1,499.00 in AUS $.

Ouch.

Dec 05 12 09:49 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AspirationImages
Posts: 184
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


In Balance Photography wrote:
At first I thought this was baloney. Then I looked up the printer I just bought for $579 US shipping included.

$1,499.00 in AUS $.

Ouch.

No, In AUD at a current exchange rate of 1AUD = 1.04USD it would be about $556.
Unfortunately vendors screw us. 3880 cartridges cost $100 each but I can buy them from the US including postage for about $50.

Also to the previous poster, we have this thing called freedom of speech. It sort of allows you to express an opinion and hopefully not be ridiculed. My opinion is based on experience of several multifunctions. They are only A4 (and who buys that), the output is crap and varies, the cartridges are only about 13mL and cost a bomb and the prints are unsaleable because they fade after a couple of years. To those that disagree, please keep doing what you are doing. Bye.

Dec 06 12 01:20 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
In Balance Photography
Posts: 3,370
Boston, Massachusetts, US


AspirationImages wrote:

No, In AUD at a current exchange rate of 1AUD = 1.04USD it would be about $556.
Unfortunately vendors screw us. 3880 cartridges cost $100 each but I can buy them from the US including postage for about $50.

Also to the previous poster, we have this thing called freedom of speech. It sort of allows you to express an opinion and hopefully not be ridiculed. My opinion is based on experience of several multifunctions. They are only A4 (and who buys that), the output is crap and varies, the cartridges are only about 13mL and cost a bomb and the prints are unsaleable because they fade after a couple of years. To those that disagree, please keep doing what you are doing. Bye.

GST I suppose...?

http://www.epson.com.au/products/inkjet … or3000.asp

Dec 06 12 02:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jim Lafferty
Posts: 1,898
Brooklyn, New York, US


Recommend a printer?

Here's two: mpix.com, adorama.com

I suggest you avoid buying one - they become a liability in both cost and time. They're really just vehicles for the most overpriced liquid in the world: http://www.nextnature.net/2010/01/the-m … ve-liquid/
Dec 06 12 11:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,152
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Jim Lafferty wrote:
Recommend a printer?

Here's two: mpix.com, adorama.com

Will they do receipts and invoices too?

Dec 06 12 11:47 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,701
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Kaouthia wrote:
Will they do receipts and invoices too?

Yeah.
$10 for an 8x10
wink

Dec 06 12 12:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jim Lafferty
Posts: 1,898
Brooklyn, New York, US


Kaouthia wrote:

Will they do receipts and invoices too?

There's always Staples and Kinkos/FedEx.

Dec 06 12 12:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,152
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Jim Lafferty wrote:
There's always Staples and Kinkos/FedEx.

Or, I could buy a cheap all-in-one printer, and not have the associated hassles and delays of waiting for it to arrive or having to go and pick it up.

And, in this country at least, there's also the minor issue of the Data Protection Act. smile

Dec 06 12 12:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
JJMiller
Posts: 467
Buffalo, New York, US


You can do invoices with a $30 printer, using only black ink.

Also, an 8x10 photo print is only a couple of bucks. I would just get prints done at a photo lab, especially one that has a guarantee of work (plus you can get large/many different sizes).
Dec 06 12 01:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Miroslava Svoboda
Posts: 555
Seattle, Washington, US


Canon pricey on the ink doesn't last past one year, I had two of those before. HP same story.

I'm trying out Brother, so far still good and I love that it's wireless.
Dec 06 12 01:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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