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Photographer
Optix
Posts: 223
Boston, Massachusetts, US


NinaAnn wrote:
I agree with many others on here and send her home.


As an anecdote, I was once being picked up by a photographer I hadn't worked with before at the train station.  I walked out the door and this guy jumped out of his car, said hello and shook my hand and offered to take my luggage.  His camera stuff was all in the back seat, perfectly normal so far.

I got in the car and this guy pulled up next to us and said 'Excuse me, but I think you've got my model' - turns out I got into the car of a photographer who was waiting for an entirely different model.  Luckily, I DO look like my portfolio - or at least to the extent that my photographer could come and get me.

When I got out of the car, this other model turns up. She looked nothing like me - different hair and eye colour, taller and at least 30lb heavier.  I looked at her portfolio later on when I got home and I have absolutely no idea how this guy got us confused, maybe he thought it was his lucky day!

He was an idiot.

Dec 06 12 01:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,113
Tampa, Florida, US


NinaAnn wrote:
I agree with many others on here and send her home.


As an anecdote, I was once being picked up by a photographer I hadn't worked with before at the train station.  I walked out the door and this guy jumped out of his car, said hello and shook my hand and offered to take my luggage.  His camera stuff was all in the back seat, perfectly normal so far.

I got in the car and this guy pulled up next to us and said 'Excuse me, but I think you've got my model' - turns out I got into the car of a photographer who was waiting for an entirely different model.  Luckily, I DO look like my portfolio - or at least to the extent that my photographer could come and get me.

When I got out of the car, this other model turns up. She looked nothing like me - different hair and eye colour, taller and at least 30lb heavier.  I looked at her portfolio later on when I got home and I have absolutely no idea how this guy got us confused, maybe he thought it was his lucky day!

"And after unknowingly driving with the wrong photographer we then arrived onto the set and I was introduced to my co-star, Mr. Ron Jeremy..."

Dec 06 12 03:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Justin Suyama
Posts: 113
Seattle, Washington, US


Rik Austin wrote:
A couple of hours of wasted time versus crushing some young girls heart.  Hmmm, I'd have to think about that.

My sentiments. It's completely your fault Mr. Photographer.

Here's what I do. That morning or the night before I have them take a cell phone photo of themselves and either send it to my phone or email me it. Everyone has a camera these days. I instruct them with what I want to see: their face, hair (length). And it needs to at least be a bust shot in good light. That usually tells me all I need to know about what I am committed to working with. 

Typically not a problem with professional models because their portfolios, in my experience, usually reflect what they look like or they clearly state how they currently look. But I think in the end it is your responsibility to find out about your models including the need to ask for their current look.

Dec 06 12 04:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Colored Photos
Posts: 192
Los Angeles, California, US


Tell them to go home, and next time require them to email you a recent polaroid. I tend to just avoid dealing with self represented models because of all the trouble like this. It can really be a headache. Agencies make sure the model has recent "digitals" and you know what you are getting.
Dec 07 12 12:45 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Sandra Vixen
Posts: 714
Los Angeles, California, US


I personally think it all depends on one key point, was the image that that model gave you stolen? As in someone using someone else's photo to impersonate?

If I were photographing that day and an impostor showed up, I'd be glad to photograph, then turn them over to the cops. That's illegal, stealing, forgery, impersonation...

But if an image was edited to a great deal, that's kind of a common thing in the industry, even make up makes you look different.

To be safe, ask for a cell phone pic with a current newspaper or something next time.
Dec 07 12 01:08 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Kristiana-Retouch
Posts: 287
London, England, United Kingdom


I've worked as an assistant to a photographer and it wasn't common but it happened few times.
Model showing up with different hair color and weight.
I think it's because out there are a lot of "wannabe models" they just don't think about photographer - they desperate want to get professional shoots and experience.
In our case one of them admitted that she relayed on the fact photographer won't turn her down if she shows up.
Dec 07 12 02:47 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Loli Scotch
Posts: 78
Austin, Texas, US


In my experience, not many models look exactly how they do in their images; it's pretty rare, in fact, and it's one of the beauties of photography. 

I mean, I have it clearly stated in my profile here, on MM, where I find a large number of the photographers I work with as TFs, that I am 5'0'' tall.  I have never used iffy word choices to seem taller, or tried to get into jobs that I don't fit the requirements for.  Yet, judging by the photos I have, this past week two separate photographers mentioned to me that they thought I would be a lot taller than I really am.  A lot of this is because there are no items that can be used to scale me in my presence, I use stretching and tip-toe techniques, the photographer might use vertical angles that can extend my length a little, and there are no tall models around me to give it away.  Does this mean I am misrepresenting myself?  Not at all.  It is not my fault that they did not look at my stats before setting up the trade, and were going by selected photos alone.  That said, neither photographer complained about this, and both shoots went splendidly.

Height might be not quite what you were thinking, but the point is, never just go by professional photos, if the look of the girl is an important aspect of the shoot.  Always ask for recent photos, or even just ask her to send recent stats regarding size and hair.

I personally think sending her away, for a trade shoot, would be highly unprofessional.  If this were commercial or if you were paying her for her time, perhaps the lines may be more blurred.  But any challenge should be met head on, and if other photographers could make her look beautiful -- well, why couldn't you, too?  That's the fun of it, I think.  Making art, no matter the medium.
Dec 09 12 10:32 am  Link  Quote 
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