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Makeup Artist
KDM
Posts: 373
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


Either on yourself or on clients?

On myself, I sometimes just wear cheek contour. No blush, no highlight.
Dec 05 12 08:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dannielle Levan
Posts: 12,857
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada


I do that too, or wear nothing on my cheeks because I have giant cheekbones anyway and they do it for me XD

I don't wear mascara often - I have a genetic mutation that gives me multiple rows of lashes (3 on top, 2 on the bottom). It actually makes my lashes stick together.
I've had arguments with people about me not wearing fake lashes. Sorry, just a genetic lottery winner, lol!

I don't dye my grey hair which provokes shocked rants from my mother inlaw (i'm only 26 btw, again, weird genetics)
Dec 05 12 11:33 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Makeup Hair by Dani B
Posts: 729
Seattle, Washington, US


Nothing shocking, I'm sure others do these although some would say they are no-nos, but I like the question, so:

I conceal/correct after foundation instead of before unless I'm doing something like a birthmark or tattoo, then I might do both.

I use my (sanitized) fingers. I use the (sanitized) back of my hand as a palette.

I use products for uses other than which they are intended, as long as it is safe to do so.
Dec 05 12 11:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
MakeUp By CC
Posts: 303
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


Makeup by Dani B wrote:
I conceal/correct after foundation instead of before unless I'm doing something like a birthmark or tattoo, then I might do both

I do this all the time, on myself and others smile didn't know it was a no-no

I apply eyeliner after mascara and eyeshadow, kinda press it in from the top, on myself I do this...

Dec 06 12 11:13 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Katy G
Posts: 285
Yucaipa, California, US


MakeUp By CC wrote:

I do this all the time, on myself and others smile didn't know it was a no-no

Me too, with the concealing/correcting! They didn't each it one way or the other in school, so I wasn't aware and hadn't read that anywhere, until now. I'll have to try applying concealer before and see the difference it makes! My mind always reasoned putting it on after foundation, because foundation may be enough to cover the little imperfections and you wouldn't need to conceal as much.

Dec 06 12 12:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


When I still had red hair, I wore red lipstick more often than not.

I'm also guilty of using just a bit of concealer on the spots that need it, blending well and skipping foundation altogether
Dec 06 12 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Ms BSK
Posts: 886
Brooklyn, New York, US


I used to be one of those who concealed before foundation. When I assisted a senior artist she had us do it in reverse and I've loved it ever since. You use less product that way also when you are using pro quality makeup the pigmentation levels are enough that you can get away with it. It doesn't work all of the time with all people, but it is another handy technique in your pocket that can save you a bit of time when needed.
Dec 06 12 02:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ThirdEyeMakeup
Posts: 303
Los Angeles, California, US


I often forget to put on eye cream and concealer on myself.
Dec 06 12 09:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dannielle Levan
Posts: 12,857
New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada


Paige Morgan wrote:
When I still had red hair, I wore red lipstick more often than not.

I'm also guilty of using just a bit of concealer on the spots that need it, blending well and skipping foundation altogether

I reckon red lipstick looks awesome on redheads...dunno where that taboo came from.

Dec 07 12 03:16 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Simire MUA
Posts: 91
London, England, United Kingdom


Makeup by Dani B wrote:
I use products for uses other than which they are intended, as long as it is safe to do so.

+1

Dec 07 12 10:36 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


I'm not sure if this is beauty rule or not, but I use volumizers (sprays, mousses, etc.) on dry hair instead of damp and then blow dry them in. I find it works a LOT better.
Dec 07 12 02:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mystery Britt
Posts: 233
San Diego, California, US


parts of my face refuse to age -- not sure what rule I'm breaking!!
Dec 07 12 03:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Jaime Criel Makeup
Posts: 149
New York, New York, US


I love to use lipsticks for color correcting dark circles...
Blushes as eyeshadows...
Lipsticks as blush...
Eyeshadows for brow color...
Eyeshadows for lip color...
Eyeshadows for highlights and contours...

Basically using any makeup on an area that it was not intended to be used I find fun and a bit dangerous smile
Dec 07 12 03:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Denise
Posts: 1,911
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada


We're makeup artists, there are no rules! wink
Dec 07 12 08:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Linda Chudomelova
Posts: 133
Prague, Prague, Czech Republic


Jaime Criel Makeup wrote:
I love to use lipsticks for color correcting dark circles...
Blushes as eyeshadows...
Lipsticks as blush...
Eyeshadows for brow color...
Eyeshadows for lip color...
Eyeshadows for highlights and contours...

Basically using any makeup on an area that it was not intended to be used I find fun and a bit dangerous smile

Oh, dear, they are rules? My, then I probably broke them all already. big_smile

Used blush as an eyeshadow (just the day before yesterday). I needed a red one. big_smile
Lipstick as blush, cream blush as lipstick, eyeshadows on lips...

The most daring thing I did probably was using a gel liner as a lipstick and black khol pencil as a lipliner. I don't have that stuff in black... yet. Osmile

Dec 08 12 03:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Are you talking about rules for makeup or beauty in general?

At any rate, i think rules are silly and limiting! My typography teacher used to say, first you need to know the rules and then you can break them. The rule of thirds or lining your exposure up with a fibonacci sequence might get you a balanced composition, but beauty is so much more than just balance! The point is to know WHY people make these rules, so its less about breaking them and more about making your own rules for whatever you're trying to achieve. Yes, the right blush and eyeliner might give you that glamourous barbie doll look, but there is so much more to beauty than barbie dolls! Yes, 3 point lighting can be very aesthetically pleasing but it only works best for display style photography and is unnatural and creates a limited range of moods! Learn the rules people have created for their own styles, but understand that they are only FORMULAS, once you know how these formulas are created you can make your own.
Dec 08 12 03:56 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
rick lesser
Posts: 690
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


All of them.  If I followed rules I would never have gotten to discover how far I can go.  I mix hair color lines.  I would add semi permanent color to perm neutralizer.  And don't get me started on henna!  Makeup rules, please.  How do you think things get invented.  I don't think outside the box because there is no box.  R-
Dec 08 12 10:30 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Leslie Vossmer
Posts: 3
San Antonio, Texas, US


I use the clean and sanitized back of my hand as a pallet
Dec 08 12 03:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Raven Nyx
Posts: 17
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


I think I break most of them. I hardly wear any make up though in a few shots I have had eye shadow on and mascara.

I prefer natural look and quite like my pale skin tongue
Dec 08 12 03:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Linda Chudomelova
Posts: 133
Prague, Prague, Czech Republic


Raven Nyx wrote:
I think I break most of them. I hardly wear any make up though in a few shots I have had eye shadow on and mascara.

I prefer natural look and quite like my pale skin tongue

I'm an MUA and I don't wear makeup wherever and whenever I can get away with it.

Sometimes I do notice queer looks, but nobody ever asked. big_smile

Dec 08 12 04:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Raven Nyx
Posts: 17
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


Linda Chudomelova wrote:

I'm an MUA and I don't wear makeup wherever and whenever I can get away with it.

Sometimes I do notice queer looks, but nobody ever asked. big_smile

I get queer looks all the time sad

Dec 08 12 04:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Gianna Virginia
Posts: 178
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


Makeup by Dani B wrote:
I apply eyeliner after mascara and eyeshadow, kinda press it in from the top, on myself I do this...

This I find very interesting. Just curious why you do it this way. Dont the lashes lose their curl this way? Do you find that the liner is easier to apply this way? Would love to hear more about this technique and you reasons for it.

Im just so curious because I find mascara application to be the most detailed step to do and I would love to knock that step out first so I can move on with the rest of my eyes without concerning myself with that tedious mascara step.

Dec 08 12 06:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Subculture
Posts: 35
Los Angeles, California, US


I always apply concealer after foundation and I like to use products for their unintended use also.
Dec 08 12 06:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Jocelyn Marie Morris
Posts: 52
Chicago, Illinois, US


Jaime Criel Makeup wrote:
I love to use lipsticks for color correcting dark circles...
Blushes as eyeshadows...
Lipsticks as blush...
Eyeshadows for brow color...
Eyeshadows for lip color...
Eyeshadows for highlights and contours...

Basically using any makeup on an area that it was not intended to be used I find fun and a bit dangerous smile

Your post REALLY intrigues me smile I am extremely interested in how you use lipsticks to color correct dark circles. Would you mind sharing which shades you use for which types of circles? Do you have any particular shades that work well for medium to dark skin?

Dec 08 12 11:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Linda Chudomelova
Posts: 133
Prague, Prague, Czech Republic


Raven Nyx wrote:

I get queer looks all the time sad

Really? *sadface* I would have imagined that a beauty like yourself would be getting adoring looks. sad

Dec 09 12 03:10 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Jodie Acty
Posts: 44
Swansea, Wales, United Kingdom


Jocelyne,

At Illamasqua Global Beauty School Drop-in that I attended, for the "Mastering Mid-tone Skin" section, David Horne used Illamasqua Lipstick in "Flare" (orange colour) for under-eye pigmentation on Asian/Latin American/Olive Skin.  This was applied under the eyes before makeup. 

Illamasqua Rich Liquid Foundation in 233 was then applied over the Illamasqua Lipstick in Flare under the eyes.  This lifted the eyes significantly.

smile
Dec 09 12 03:12 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Katie grace bouchard
Posts: 119
Providence, Rhode Island, US


No rules. They're annoying and keep artists in boxes.
Dec 10 12 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
JaclynGravesMakeup
Posts: 84
Clifton, New Jersey, US


At MUD, i was trained to color correct/conceal after foundation- it is a no-no? =/ geesh.. haha
Dec 10 12 07:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
MakeUp By CC
Posts: 303
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


Gianna Virginia wrote:
This I find very interesting. Just curious why you do it this way. Dont the lashes lose their curl this way? Do you find that the liner is easier to apply this way? Would love to hear more about this technique and you reasons for it.

I find it faster and easier on myself yes, not sure why smile My lashes have a strong curl already after mascara so they are not affected...I'm also not going for that visible winged eyeliner or anything like that, more thin liner to enhance the lashes if that makes sense, cos my eyes do not tolerate any liner on the upper waterline..

Dec 10 12 08:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Jaime Criel Makeup
Posts: 149
New York, New York, US


Jocelyn Marie Morris wrote:

Your post REALLY intrigues me smile I am extremely interested in how you use lipsticks to color correct dark circles. Would you mind sharing which shades you use for which types of circles? Do you have any particular shades that work well for medium to dark skin?

I sometimes use red or orange lipsticks to color correct..just a little bit goes a long way..just lightly apply the lipstick shade only where there is darkness, then apply concealer over the top. Orange lipstick corrects a blue toned darkness (and blends well with a warm skin tone), red corrects something with a bit more green to it (works well with a cool skin tone). For darker skin tones, just use a deeper lipstick. Usually deeper skin works better with orange correctors.

Dec 10 12 08:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jaime Criel Makeup
Posts: 149
New York, New York, US


JaclynGravesMakeup wrote:
At MUD, i was trained to color correct/conceal after foundation- it is a no-no? =/ geesh.. haha

Color correct before foundation, conceal after foundation.

Dec 10 12 08:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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TheMakeupMan
Posts: 3,751
Los Angeles, California, US


I didn't know there were rules ???
Dec 12 12 05:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Bunny Bombshell
Posts: 11,752
Huntington, West Virginia, US


Black mascara/eyeliner. Apparently, blondes aren't "supposed" to wear either, but I think that's stupid
Dec 12 12 05:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rock Victorian
Posts: 142
Norfolk, Virginia, US


Edited to be more to the point: I rarely use face charts. Definitely something I should to do more often.
Dec 12 12 09:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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MakeUp By CC
Posts: 303
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


Ms Selina K wrote:
Black mascara/eyeliner. Apparently, blondes aren't "supposed" to wear either, but I think that's stupid

Totally stupid! I've broken that rule all my life wink

Dec 12 12 11:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Katy G
Posts: 285
Yucaipa, California, US


The Victorian Affair wrote:
Edited to be more to the point: I rarely use face charts. Definitely something I should to do more often.

I don't either. If people saw my face charts, they wouldn't trust me to do makeup! I am not the same on paper artist as I am on face. I'm more of a reading words learner than a looking at pictures learner anyway. For myself, I write an outline of my looks to skim over before doing a look, instead of doing face charts.

Dec 13 12 10:45 am  Link  Quote 
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TheMakeupMan
Posts: 3,751
Los Angeles, California, US


I think your all missing the point ........ there are no rules , the only rules are about sanatation

ive been around long enough to see "the rules " change over and over "

you cant have strong eyes and a strong mouth

you can use this for that

you cant you cant you cant ..........following a bunch of "beauty rules " and im curious who made them up ????   you r moms ?????
its like wearing blinders , dosent serve you as a artist and is really a shallow way of looking at beauty and being an artist

if it looks good and you can make it work    do it   

F#@K rules on beauty ,,,,,,,,,, way lame
Dec 13 12 11:10 am  Link  Quote 
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Tara Pagliara MUA
Posts: 702
New York, New York, US


TheMakeupMan wrote:
I didn't know there were rules ???

STOLE MY THOUGHT lol. Id say the only rule to not break is sanitation rules!!!

Dec 13 12 10:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Chasidy Rex
Posts: 3
Colorado Springs, Colorado, US


I personally have very thick hair and it's naturally very curly, so I straighten it a lot and it fries my hair. So much for keratin lasting 6 months I think it was..? Anyways, it leaves me having to get the keratin treatment a lot. Relaxers worked so much better, but I used to dye my hair a lot so I couldn't get my hair relaxed anymore. Now I mainly get my hair highlighted..
Dec 21 12 11:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ed Devereaux
Posts: 603
Portland, Oregon, US


Probably all of them, I am not a good looking man.
Dec 21 12 11:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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