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LALightPhoto
Posts: 53
Los Angeles, California, US


Well ... sort of.  Took delivery of my 5D Mark III's a couple of weeks ago.  I'd been shooting Mark IIs for a couple of years.  For anyone who is a Mark II shooter and who is wondering... Here are my impressions.

1.  The MarkIII focuses dramatically faster.  This is a night and day difference and in my mind the best reason to buy the Mark III.

2.  The MarkIII sensor is dramatically better in low light situations.  I'm getting very useable raw images up to 6400 ISO.

3.  The Mark III has a much more intuitive menu system.  I use a lot of custom functions and with my Mark II I always had to go back and check the manual for the toggles.  The Mark III uses pictographs. 

4.  I don't know that I'll ever use it ... but the electronic level is slick.

5.  The shutter is much quieter and sounds more solid.

6.  It's a tactile thing, but I like the way the Mark III feels in my hands.

I'm not a big believer in switching camera makers if you're an experienced shooter so if you're a Nikon this is in no way trying to convince you to be a Canon.  But if you're a Canon and you're wondering if the Mark III is worthwhile rent one, borrow one, steal one (just not one of mine) and shoot it and you too will be in love.
Dec 06 12 08:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


LALightPhoto wrote:
if you're a Nikon this is in no way trying to convince you to be a Canon.

We didn't think it was.  We've had amazing autofocus, low light performance and built in levels for years. wink

Congrats on the new toys, I'm sure you'll have great fun with them! smile

Dec 06 12 08:28 am  Link  Quote 
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LALightPhoto
Posts: 53
Los Angeles, California, US


I do think it's sort of funny that any time someone posts about a brand (and it is particularly true of Canon, the very next post is always a snarky Nikon remark).

Why do you like wasting time on that?
Dec 06 12 08:30 am  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


I do think it sort of funny that when you buy a Canon, you trade in your sense of humour.

It wasn't a "snarky comment", it was a joke.  Hence the wink at the end, although perhaps it was a little too subtle.

The next line was in fact serious.  I couldn't give two shits what you shoot, as long as you're happy with it. smile

I also use Canon DSLRs from time to time, and they work just fine with my Nikon lenses too, so there's no reason to exclude Nikon users from renting one of these, especially for those shooting video (at least, not after April when Canon release the firmware update to give it features the D4 and D800 already have).
Dec 06 12 08:33 am  Link  Quote 
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Paul AI
Posts: 572
Shawnee, Oklahoma, US


Kaouthia wrote:
We didn't think it was.  We've had amazing autofocus, low light performance and built in levels for years. wink

Lol.

Dec 06 12 08:36 am  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


Paul AI wrote:
Lol.

See? He got it. wink

Dec 06 12 08:37 am  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,268
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I am a pessimist, don't like either. Love the potential of a 36mpx sensor though.

The level, is for me very useful.

I didn't notice any faster AF, but finally accurate yes, well more often.

Low light, everyone says it is better. Haven't tried.

Film modes, better but they need to have raw uncompressed now. It'll come long after they have lost many to Nikon rightfully justified.

Pathetic 1000€ over the base cost of the MKII upgrade if you want my opinion.

Yet I couldn't find equivalent lenses in Nikon, so stuck with what devils I know.
Dec 06 12 08:41 am  Link  Quote 
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WMcK
Posts: 5,191
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom


Neil Snape wrote:
Film modes, better but they need to have raw uncompressed now. It'll come long after they have lost many to Nikon rightfully justified.

Is Canon compression not lossless? If so uncompressed shouldn't make any difference.
Or is the Mk III using lossy compression?

Dec 06 12 08:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,268
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


WMcK wrote:

Is Canon compression not lossless? If so uncompressed shouldn't make any difference.
Or is the Mk III using lossy compression?

I am a beginner with the film stuff but currently from the last few days webinar at CreativeLive, they said it has a bad choice for a compressed format with H.264 taking away from the edit quality, if tweaked. Nikon have raw output, Canon will with the update in April.

Dec 06 12 08:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom


WMcK wrote:
Is Canon compression not lossless? If so uncompressed shouldn't make any difference.
Or is the Mk III using lossy compression?

They all use lossy compression (h.264, motion-JPG, or some variant).  1920x1080 @ 8BPP uncompressed would be about 143 Megabytes per second (at 24p).  Even compressed (losslessly), it would still probably be about half of that, so you're looking at extremely high filesizes.

The D800 & D4 offer a clean uncompressed HDMI output, so you can record straight to external devices like the Atomos Ninja, and encode realtime to broadcast quality ProRes or DNxHD, onto fast hard drives.

The 5DMk3 doesn't offer this at the moment, but it will do after the new firmware comes out.

Dec 06 12 08:58 am  Link  Quote 
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shawn is boring
Posts: 1,285
Long Beach, California, US


Kaouthia wrote:
We didn't think it was.  We've had amazing autofocus, low light performance and built in levels for years. wink

Congrats on the new toys, I'm sure you'll have great fun with them! smile

I was just thinking...

iso6400? I can get useable 12,800 from the d4...

I mean here is an unedited iso6,400 from the d4.

http://i.imgur.com/mfrjk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mfrjkl.jpg

Dec 06 12 05:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paul AI
Posts: 572
Shawnee, Oklahoma, US


shawn is boring wrote:
iso6400? I can get useable 12,800 from the d4...

Not really fair to compare a 5DIII to a D4, haha.

Dec 06 12 05:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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shawn is boring
Posts: 1,285
Long Beach, California, US


Paul AI wrote:

Not really fair to compare a 5DIII to a D4, haha.

Will since the d800 produces broadly similar results in low light, I think it is.

Dec 06 12 05:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
London Fog
Posts: 5,003
London, England, United Kingdom


The D800 is without equal at this time, but maybe not for too long. Maybe the big C will unleash their mega weapon soon (3D?), I have some cracking L lenses waiting for it!
Dec 06 12 05:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


LALightPhoto wrote:
I do think it's sort of funny that any time someone posts about a brand (and it is particularly true of Canon, the very next post is always a snarky Nikon remark).

Why do you like wasting time on that?

It's a Sony thang. wink LOL!

Dec 06 12 05:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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