Lorayne York wrote: I call my boobs: Tits/tiny mounds.
I call my crotch: Va-Gi-Na... making sure to make it the longest word possible.
I call the inside of my Vagina: the pink shit... for example "make sure my pink shit doesnt show"
and i call my nipples: Nips.
but... i kinda dont care about being politically correct.. i tend to be gassy on shoots and i fart a lot in the nude.. or belch.. but it makes me less bloated. soo yay!
I'm new to MM however I have been taking art classes with drawing or sculpting from figurative nudes since Jr High School. Most llamas I know along with the thread I have read here suggest that most llamas don't want photographers or crew to cross a line of sexual inappropriateness during a shoot. This also includes erotic or fetish shoots.
What I find makes llamas most comfortable is to use direct and professional sounding language. As a llama, you can help clue a photographer that you expect professionalism by using professional language. Silly euphemisms like honey-pot va-jay-jay or very crude vulgar language does not build a professional atmosphere. Call nipples "nipples", call breasts "breasts." Make a conscious choice to directly and without giggles or hesitation, use the words that best create the professional atmosphere you want to work in.
Tegan Lynn MUA wrote: (sorry, posting from my MUA profile)
I honestly don't care what you call it, although I personally just hate the term pussy, I dunno why, just do.
I dunno what's so bad about the proper terms. I just really dislike it when people use the term vagina incorrectly. Vagina is just the inside part. The outer bits are called the vulva. I'd be afraid if someone wanted a picture of my vagina... kinda need a speculum for that...
+1. I feel exactly the same way. I really dislike the term "pussy". It just lacks professionalism and respect. Imagine a doctor using the term "pussy". I feel the same way about the word "tits". Just say breasts and or nipples...that's what they are.
I also agree about your comment about using the term vagina. I tend to pause when I see the word "vagina" because I think people must have x-ray vision to see that after all it inside and not really visible during a typical nude shoot.
I have to admit that vulva although correct seems a bit clinical. This is a harder one. I have had photographers use "girl part", "good stuff" or they don't really use the words. They just direct me to turn left or right, lean forward or backward adjust my legs so that the desired image comes into view.
Natural Means
Posts: 287
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Jon Winkleman Photo wrote: I'm new to MM however I have been taking art classes with drawing or sculpting from figurative nudes since Jr High School. Most models I know along with the thread I have read here suggest that most models don't want photographers or crew to cross a line of sexual inappropriateness during a shoot. This also includes erotic or fetish shoots.
What I find makes models most comfortable is to use direct and professional sounding language. As a model, you can help clue a photographer that you expect professionalism by using professional language. Silly euphemisms like honey-pot va-jay-jay or very crude vulgar language does not build a professional atmosphere. Call nipples "nipples", call breasts "breasts." Make a conscious choice to directly and without giggles or hesitation, use the words that best create the professional atmosphere you want to work in.
It depends on the person, both model AND photographer. I usually try and follow the model's lead, but one thing i never forget is what one model told me: "unless you have an English accent, the word 'bum' just sounds creepy coming out of a grown man's mouth."
Ass, boobs, nipples, and lady-bits are terms that have served me pretty well so far.
It's to bad there cant be a definitive word that all ladies find acceptable, it will always be a tight rope walk for the crotch area. Even the mods are all over the place on whats acceptable for posting. I just had a shot deleted by the mods that was way tamer than what wins the 18+ contests.
Seker Pare wrote: 'I don't like openly displaying my genitals to the world'
'I don't like presenting'
'I am comfortable... just no butt hole shots please'
lol
Seems so clear, but to some models, this shot (18+) shows "genitals" even though, medically it doesn't. But it is pointless and unproductive to argue such matters at a shoot. The key being, of course, that from the statement by itself, I don't know if you're comfortable posing for that shot, and if you aren't it greatly limits what I can do.
Well I take all my lady parts with me wherever I go, so they will inevitably end up in an image or twelve..
It's just a body. If it's not mine, it'll be someone else's. I'd prefer it were mine, for obvious reasons.
As for the 'doctor's office' talk thingy: I 'hire' the doctor, not the other way around. He doesn't need me to figure out what to do with his day.
A photographer however hires me - let's agree on agreeable terms if you're squeamish, and/or just don't call my lady garden anything one might hear in a porno.
RKD Photographic
Posts: 2,989
Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
I quite like the German 'posh' slang for vagina: 'Mu-Mu' (short for 'muttermund' or mothering-mouth - German lacks so much in aesthetics sometimes...lol).
All sorts of hilarity ensues when my 2 year old daughter listens to CDs of English nursery rhymes - "Old Macdonald had a Cow" brings the house down here...
^^^
Approves of kitty. How could I forget that even? *headdesk*
RKD Photographic wrote: I quite like the German 'posh' slang for vagina: 'Mu-Mu' (short for 'muttermund' or mothering-mouth - German lacks so much in aesthetics sometimes...lol).
All sorts of hilarity ensues when my 2 year old daughter listens to CDs of English nursery rhymes - "Old Macdonald had a Cow" brings the house down here...
Eurocat wrote: Since a bunch of photographers really do seem to be frightened (for whatever reason, I'm still not completely done speculating on that one), to call a nipple nipple, or some are just unsure of what's approporiate.
All comfort level talk aside, girls, what do you call your own bits for the ladies and gents behind the gear?
I actually think its quite hilarious when a photog....most likely a grown man or woman...has an issue stumbling over the right word to say when referring to certain body parts. As a Bio student, I well...call it what it is; boobs, breast, butt, backside, vagina (oh my gasp!)...Usually when it comes to dealing with a photog that seems uncomfortable with spitting the words out, I just blurt it out. Photog usually nods his head and agreement and then I reassure him/her that its ok, we're humans, as far as sex is concerned, we all have them and most likely have all seen them. They usually loosen up after I say the words myself.
The funnier issue is when I shoot with other models not comfortable shooting nude or semi-nude and I strip down and walk out on set with no qualms. The faces some people make are priceless. It's all about being truly comfortable in your own skin. Let it show!
Lawrence Guy
Posts: 17,144
PUTNAM VALLEY, New York, US
I go with variety and spontaneity.
For example, I might tell a model "um... your 'place that shall not be named' is showing a bit in that pose," and when she's says "what are you talking about?" I'll respond with "I can see your cervix from here, close your damn legs, ho!"
But I only go that route when I know the model well.
Tegan Lynn MUA wrote: (sorry, posting from my MUA profile)
I honestly don't care what you call it, although I personally just hate the term pussy, I dunno why, just do.
I dunno what's so bad about the proper terms. I just really dislike it when people use the term vagina incorrectly. Vagina is just the inside part. The outer bits are called the vulva. I'd be afraid if someone wanted a picture of my vagina... kinda need a speculum for that...
I would recommend getting over your dislike for people's use of vagina to mean the whole of a woman's genitalia. It is a common colloquialism.
I usually use funny words so the model isnt offended.
Ass - Ill usually say "booty or butt", If she is one of my regulars, Ill call it the potato or onion.
Vagina sounds like a doctor is talking, so ill say - "coochie or cooch" (lately, ive been using the word "cooze" and the models seem to laff at that one. By the end of the shoot it is now called Jerry Coozeman (a play off the baseball player's name) VaJayJay is also cute. Models laff at that too.
Breasts sounds like im cooking chicken, so ill say boobs. If its a nipple showing ill let them know a lil "Nipsey Russell" is peeking out the shirt.
btw: someone mentioned Cooter. "Cooter" was on Dukes of Hazzard not Mayberry.
Designit - Edward Olson wrote: I would recommend getting over your dislike for people's use of vagina to mean the whole of a woman's genitalia. It is a common colloquialism.
I realize it's a colloquialism, but I don't have to like it. I don't rage at anyone for it or anything, but I do have my personal feelings on it. I'm finding this difficult to phrase, so bear with me. I personally dislike it because I think it shows a lack of respect or caring for knowledge of women's sexuality. It reduces our whole genitals to the one part that is known for giving pleasure to men. It ignores the rest of our genitals and the parts that can give us pleasure. It has become a colloquialism in part due to ignorance on both men and women's parts. Half the women I know who use it incorrectly honestly are just that ignorant. I find it sad. I remember having to teach myself the parts of my body through the internet because in health class we only learned the names of our internal reproductive organs. Everyone in class was taught the anatomy of male genitalia, most people know the testicles are different from the penis, and few people use the word penis to refer to all of a male's genitalia. Not so the other way around. For years the only word I had to describe my genitalia was vagina. There are all sorts of other parts and they have proper names as well. I think we should be using them. For this reason I prefer terms that include all of our genitalia when that is the part of our bodies being referred to. Doesn't even have to be the anatomically correct one.
Again, these are my personal feelings on the matter. I'm not trying to say one way is right or wrong, I'm just explaining the reasoning and feelings behind my dislike of the practice. I know people who use it are not trying to insult or disrespect me and I don't take it as an offense. I just don't like it.
Hahaha, hmm. For breasts, I think any number of nicknames are amusing - sweater puppies (or kittens), jiggly bits, tits, etc. The more random, the better, though I can't think of anything outstanding at the moment. As a whole, titties are fun and amazing, and should be addressed accordingly.
Nipples seems like a weird thing to get nervous about. There aren't as many fun names for them, either. Nips, I guess? Anyone have any good ones?
For some reason the girly bits, "lady garden" (haha, that's great) area I am a bit more picky on. I dislike crude, sexual context names for that whole area. "Pussy," "snatch," "gash," "cooter." They are gross sounding, and make me think of porno "sex" talk that is more cheesy than sexy, rather than a fun and respectful photoshoot. I really liked the example posted earlier of calling it "nonsense." I've called that whole area "this shenanigans" before, with the same awkward hand waving that most nervous photographers do.
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