PIX BY DAN wrote: Looking to possibly replace my Nikon D700. Looking for opinions on a good full frame replacement.
Thanks,
Dan
Why? What upgrades are you looking for? How deeply are you invested in Nikon? Unless Canon or Sony has a feature that is a must for you, I would not switch.
i decided to go with the d600. loving it so far. really incredible sensor sony came up with, and as usual nikon's doing a fantastic job with it. i played with the two cameras, and didn't like the ergonomics of the d800, and didn't want there to be any chance i'd get one with bad AF (or 3, like Kesler did). that and a grand saved is a grand earned, right? lol (could go toward new glass...or in my case, lasik or new flooring. haha)
i came from a d300 and d700, for reference. as far as image quality goes, there's simply no comparison. it's not even close, imo.
Otherwise it's a great camera. As someone else noted, a good amount of d800s have a focus issue with one side (can remember if its left or right).
This time around, if you want a great performing body that won't cost the earth (focus ability, fps) or video of course, it's Canon. Canon also have a very slight edge in high ISO in most cases but its small enough not to notice. If you want low ISO shadow quality, it's Nikon. I still believe canon has the better overall range of lenses with only a few exceptions, but a Nikon person will never believe that haha! There are a few other differences but they are the main ones.
Thinking about it I've not seen the video of the d600 compared to canon so no idea if that's improved.
(You didn't note that you needed a lot of res so I assumed the d800 36mp wasn't a particular benefit.)
*edit* comments above don't really take the 6d into account. It's AF is not fantastic.
London Fog
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If I had to start over, it would likely be Canon. Their L lenses are to die for, but at this time the bodies are somewhat lacking, except maybe the 5DIII. They need to release that 46MP (suspect will be called 3D) monster to keep up with the big N as there is a D4X on the horizon!
Now, if only I could use the L series lenses with my D800, that would be perfection!
edit. There is no known left AF issue with the D800! If it exists at all, it must have been on a handful of early bodies! No such problem here and I have two!
I'm really not having major issues with the D700. Just have had it for a few years and think its time for a change, try something new maybe better. Curious to hear from other D700 users to see how they still feel about the camera.
Legacys 7
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London Fog wrote: If I had to start over, it would likely be Canon. Their L lenses are to die for, but at this time the bodies are somewhat lacking, except maybe the 5DIII. They need to release that 46MP (suspect will be called 3D) monster to keep up with the big N as there is a D4X on the horizon!
Now, if only I could use the L series lenses with my D800, that would be perfection!
edit. There is no known left AF issue with the D800! If it exists at all, it must have been on a handful of early bodies! No such problem here and I have two!
Actually the issue does exist. There's a Youtube video to back that D800 issue up too.
PIX BY DAN wrote: I'm really not having major issues with the D700. Just have had it for a few years and think its time for a change, try something new maybe better. Curious to hear from other D700 users to see how they still feel about the camera.
is the D800 "better"...maybe
my D700 does everything I want and then some
so much so, I bought a new one before they were gone, while everyone else was hunting for the D800/E
it's sitting in the closet on back up duty to my current one
I love the files and lack of video , but thats just me
I may well get a D600 for a lighter street lens and the cropping ability for my occasional birding forays
London Fog
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Legacys 7 wrote: No. Your trolling is bull shit. That video only confirmed what others had been experiencing with the D800.
Let's see, out of the hundreds and thousands of D800's that Nikon have shifted, just how many have reported this issue?...maybe 3 people in the entire world, yes that means it's a major issue, quick Nikon, issue a recall!
Sorry, but it's just not an issue that warrants any serious investigation. And besides all of this, Nikon do not even recognize it as an issue, and no that doesn't mean that they are avoiding it, it just means that they simply do not see it as an issue, at least not here in Europe, so I can only comment from that point of view.
The OP asked for an opinion on a Full Frame, I've given him mine, and that of many other perfectly satisfied D800 users.
my D700 does everything I want and then some
so much so, I bought a new one before they were gone, while everyone else was hunting for the D800/E
it's sitting in the closet on back up duty to my current one
I love the files and lack of video , but thats just me
I may well get a D600 for a lighter street lens and the cropping ability for my occasional birding forays
I don't get the argument against video.
How does having a function that you don't care to use affect those that you do?
I just sold my D700 because I've used it 3 times in the last 8 months since I've had the 800. In fact, I'm selling it to buy a D3200 or D5100 as a second video camera.
Why not rent for a few days and find out for yourself ?
It sounds like a case of GAS and you will just buy new stuff no matter what
I would spend on better glass 1st
PIX BY DAN wrote: Not sure if I will stick with Nikon or go to a new brand.
I find switching brands a losing battle.
Shooters who switched from Nikon to Canon years ago, are now selling their Canon gear and moving back to Nikon.
I know a couple who were always Canon shooters who are seriously considering Nikon.
But whatever you pick..I think it's only a matter of time before the other guy has the upper hand. So going back and forth, to me, is a waste of money.
How does having a function that you don't care to use affect those that you do?
I just sold my D700 because I've used it 3 times in the last 8 months since I've had the 800. In fact, I'm selling it to buy a D3200 or D5100 as a second video camera.
its no argument
I don't need it, don't care for it
one less reason to "upgrade"
PIX BY DAN wrote: I'm really not having major issues with the D700. Just have had it for a few years and think its time for a change, try something new maybe better. Curious to hear from other D700 users to see how they still feel about the camera.
I have a D700 (for me) it's a keeper. I was looking at the D600 because it would be nice to own a Nikon FX that shot 1080p video. I still think the D600 is too pricey for what you get. The D600 image quality is excellent the video quality is good but not as good as Canon (sorry Nikon). I think that $1800.00 US is what the D600 body is worth. I also think the price will drop in the Spring of 2013.
The D800 is a fine studio camera solidly built too, but I do some photojournalism work
and I can't deal with the D800 file size. Too bad Nikon didn't make a 24mp/1080p upgrade with the D700's shutter speed, frame rate and alloy body. That purchase would have been a no brainer. So until Nikon comes out with new FX releases, the D600 and D800 is what you get.
I have a D700 (for me) it's a keeper. I was looking at the D600 because it would be nice to own a Nikon FX that shot 1080p video. I still the D600 is too pricey for what you get. The D600 image quality is excellent the video quality is good but not as good as Canon (sorry Nikon). I think that $1800.00 US is what the D600 body is worth. I also think the price will drop in the Spring of 2013.
The D800 is a fine studio camera solidly built too, but I do some photojournalism work
and I can't deal with the D800 file size. Too bad Nikon didn't make a 24mp/1080p upgrade with the D700's shutter speed, frame rate and alloy body. That purchase would have been a no brainer. So until Nikon comes out with new FX releases, the D600 and D800 is what you get.
I can't use a D800 for collegiate tennis, either. Too slow.
I still haven't found the replacement for my D700, the D800 isn't it and neither is the D600... FWIW my D3s still gets the most usage the D800 is just too darn slow.... The D800 is a great studio camera and that's pretty much where it stays unless I'm out shooting landscapes.
ACPhotography wrote: I still haven't found the replacement for my D700, the D800 isn't it and neither is the D600... FWIW my D3s still gets the most usage the D800 is just too darn slow.... The D800 is a great studio camera and that's pretty much where it stays unless I'm out shooting landscapes.
This is so funny. I shot a published gig covering the Paris Opera ballet company on the D800. Plenty fast. It's amazing to think the world cranked out any good photos in the days of one shot per second - but somehow they managed. And now photographers whine about "only" four FPS.
Love the D3s, too, but the D800 is an amazing camera.
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