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Allen Carbon
Posts: 1,040
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand


I've always wondered but it's always confused me cause I've never owned a nikon  and there doesn't seem to be much of an order

With canon its real simple.

1000+ range is the entry
500+ is the hobby range
50+ is the mid range
5+ is the professional range
1+ is flagship range
Dec 08 12 09:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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You Can Call Me Pierre
Posts: 741
Montreal, Quebec, Canada


Nikon's numerical ordering is illogical.
Dec 08 12 09:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJScalzitti
Posts: 12,522
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Well that sort of makes sense expect the 6D should be professional range and it's a lower number then the 7D.  So it should be 'better' but it's obviously not, so they have their issues right now.

As for Nikon, they sort of have a plan.  The 1000 are consumer and count up, the hundreds are professional, and the single digit are the flagship bodies.  I think their current issue is the 300s and 700 not having clear replacements yet.
Dec 08 12 09:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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pullins photography
Posts: 5,877
Troy, Michigan, US


Allen Carbon wrote:
I've always wondered but it's always confused me cause I've never owned a nikon  and there doesn't seem to be much of an order

With canon its real simple.

1000+ range is the entry
500+ is the hobby range
50+ is the mid range
5+ is the professional range
1+ is flagship range

If you want the right answer, send them an e-mail and see if they will tell you what their logic towards naming their cameras is.

Dec 08 12 09:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steven A Thompson
Posts: 547
Los Angeles, California, US


Used to make more sense. But it's still pretty similar.

2-digit (D50, D70, etc) was consumer
3-digit (D200, D300, D700) was prosumer
1-digit (D3, D4) was pro (flagship)

It's still pretty much the same, except they ran out of 2-digit designators and went to 4-digit for consumer (D3200, D5100, D7000) incrementing by hundreds within a llama line by generation).

Alpha suffixes are sometimes added within a llama to indicate a variation (much as Canon does). -s (D300s) usually indicates additional features on an otherwise unchanged llama (slight IQ improvement, addition of video on previously non video llama, upgraded sensor with generally the same spec) and -x usually indicates increased or changed resolution (D3x is a 24Mp D3 for example, but otherwise functionally the same).

The D600 mixes it up a bit as it is a full-frame camera in what was the consumer form factor body with some prosumer features.

But I think the 6D sort of broke the Canon numbering mold as well.
Dec 08 12 09:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Allen Carbon
Posts: 1,040
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand


AJScalzitti wrote:
Well that sort of makes sense expect the 6D should be professional range and it's a lower number then the 7D.  So it should be 'better' but it's obviously not, so they have their issues right now.

As for Nikon, they sort of have a plan.  The 1000 are consumer and count up, the hundreds are professional, and the single digit are the flagship bodies.  I think their current issue is the 300s and 700 not having clear replacements yet.

But aren'tsome 4 digits full frame? How does that fit in?

6d does make some sense. Its in between 7d and the 5d in terms of capabilities. Its not quite a 5d but its a full frame 7
A friend of mine wants to buy a nikon and i honestly have no idea what to tell him

Dec 08 12 09:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steven A Thompson
Posts: 547
Los Angeles, California, US


Allen Carbon wrote:
But aren'tsome 4 digits full frame? How does that fit in?

6d does make some sense. Its in between 7d and the 5d
A friend of mine wants to buy a nikon and i honestly have no idea what to tell him

No. All 4-digit Nikon's are APS-C. The "affordable" full frame is the D600.

Dec 08 12 09:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Steven A Thompson
Posts: 547
Los Angeles, California, US


Allen Carbon wrote:
A friend of mine wants to buy a nikon and i honestly have no idea what to tell him

It's not that hard:
D3200 - entry consumer APS-C
D5200 - middle consumer APS-C
D7000 - high end consumer APS-C
D600 - entry full frame prosumer
D800 - high end full frame prosumer
D4 - pro flagship

Dec 08 12 09:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Allen Carbon
Posts: 1,040
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand


Steven A Thompson wrote:

It's not that hard:
D3200 - entry consumer APS-C
D5200 - middle consumer APS-C
D7000 - high end consumer APS-C
D600 - entry full frame prosumer
D800 - high end full frame prosumer
D4 - pro flagship

thanks! That's useful!

Dec 08 12 10:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,739
Fresno, California, US


When Nikon was making film cameras they had the world name and the U.S. name:
Nikon F-501 (1986, known in North America as the N2020)
Nikon F-801 (1988, known in the U.S. as the N8008)
Nikon F-801S (1991, known in the U.S. as the N8008S)
Nikon F90 (1992, known in the U.S. as the N90)
Nikon F90X (1994, known in the U.S. as the N90S)
How's that for confusing.
You want better, Canon's first affordable DSLR a real dog of a camera was the D30. Later they came out with the 30D a totally different camera. Now how is that for a bad naming convention.
Dec 08 12 11:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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imcFOTO
Posts: 579
Bothell, Washington, US


Steven A Thompson wrote:
It's not that hard:
D3200 - entry consumer APS-C
D5200 - middle consumer APS-C
D7000 - high end consumer APS-C
D600 - entry full frame prosumer
D800 - high end full frame prosumer
D4 - pro flagship

And don't forget the D5100 if budget is tight - only just being replaced by the D5200 and available at big discounts. (A great camera last year is still a great camera, but cheaper).

Dec 08 12 11:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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London Fog
Posts: 6,770
London, England, United Kingdom


Allen Carbon wrote:
I've always wondered but it's always confused me cause I've never owned a nikon  and there doesn't seem to be much of an order

With canon its real simple.

1000+ range is the entry
500+ is the hobby range
50+ is the mid range
5+ is the professional range
1+ is flagship range

What doesn't make sense?

Since 1959...

Film:

Nikon F
Nikon F2
Nikon F3
Nikon F4
Nikon F5
Nikon F6

Digital:

D100
D200
D300
D400
D600
D800

D1
D2
D3
D4

All the Dxxxx series are secondary, and are just stocking fillers designed to keep Canon, Olympus and Pentax etc on their toes!

Now, could it be any more logical than above?

Dec 09 12 03:03 am  Link  Quote 
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London Fog
Posts: 6,770
London, England, United Kingdom


Allen Carbon wrote:
I've always wondered but it's always confused me cause I've never owned a nikon  and there doesn't seem to be much of an order

With canon its real simple.

1000+ range is the entry
500+ is the hobby range
50+ is the mid range
5+ is the professional range
1+ is flagship range

And...as much as I really admire the big C now, their naming conventions are a total disaster and totally lazy!

i.e Canon 5D, II, III etc...I mean will there be a 5DVII one day! Why not just dump it and call it a Canon 3D (46MP preferably)!

Dec 09 12 03:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,156
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Its actually pretty simple right now:

D# - pro body (D3, D4)
D## (currently unused)
D### - prosumer/pro (D300, D600, D700)
D#### - consumer
           - D3### - entry level (d3100, D3200)
           - D5### - mid level (D5100, D5200)
            - D7### - high end consumer (D7000)

Another thing about Nikon - they follow even/odd models based on the Pro body - when we had the D3, all models used an odd digit for the model number - D700, D300, D3100, etc.  Now that the D4 is out, all models will have an even digit for the unique model number - D800/600, D3200, D5200, etc).
Dec 09 12 03:43 am  Link  Quote 
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Paul Richard Wossidlo
Posts: 477
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


Steven A Thompson wrote:
Used to make more sense. But it's still pretty similar.

2-digit (D50, D70, etc) was consumer
3-digit (D200, D300, D700) was prosumer
1-digit (D3, D4) was pro (flagship)

It's still pretty much the same, except they ran out of 2-digit designators and went to 4-digit for consumer (D3200, D5100, D7000) incrementing by hundreds within a model line by generation).

Alpha suffixes are sometimes added within a model to indicate a variation (much as Canon does). -s (D300s) usually indicates additional features on an otherwise unchanged model (slight IQ improvement, addition of video on previously non video model, upgraded sensor with generally the same spec) and -x usually indicates increased or changed resolution (D3x is a 24Mp D3 for example, but otherwise functionally the same).

The D600 mixes it up a bit as it is a full-frame camera in what was the consumer form factor body with some prosumer features.

But I think the 6D sort of broke the Canon numbering mold as well.

With the introduction of the D600, I think that Nikon is in the process of changing their scheme:

Dxxxx -DX cameras
Dxxx   -FX cameras
Dx      -Pro cameras (as always)

I suspect the D300s replacement will be a D9000 (or maybe D8000), rather than a D400.

Dec 09 12 05:22 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,714
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Allen Carbon wrote:
Nikon...there doesn't seem to be much of an order

Allen;  the only parameter that is of considerable merit for a Nikon destine for commercial use is the rating on its shutter (example the D700 good for 150,000 exposures rather than 300,000 on the D3) although the sensors used in both are the same... as is the processing engine i.e. same software...

What you are seeing in this thread are most likely reflections from hobbyist...
do your research...  Also it would be wise to put credence in knowledge from those with over 100,000 exposures on their camera bodies...

Please be aware that shutter ratings are a design parameter, failure can occur far sooner, or not at all... but Nikon has designed to a tolerance it feels comfortable in supporting...  enough said

Dec 09 12 08:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Robert Mossack
Posts: 1,245
Joplin, Missouri, US


The only thing for certain is that the D"single digit "camera's are high end pro models, everything else is subject to change.
Dec 09 12 09:10 am  Link  Quote 
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24,315
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US


Allen Carbon wrote:
I've always wondered but it's always confused me cause I've never owned a nikon  and there doesn't seem to be much of an order

With canon its real simple.

1000  range is the entry
500  is the hobby range
50  is the mid range
5  is the professional range
1  is flagship range

Nikon works on a higher intellectual plane than Canon....it's not for mere mortals to understand...

http://i.imgur.com/m8TQi.png

Dec 09 12 09:15 am  Link  Quote 
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24,315
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US


gl-amour wrote:
Nikon's numerical ordering is illogical.

see, you are but, a mere mortal...

http://i.imgur.com/m8TQi.png

Dec 09 12 09:16 am  Link  Quote 
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Rik Austin
Posts: 10,753
Austin, Texas, US


S W I N S K E Y wrote:

Nikon works on a higher intellectual plane than Canon....it's not for mere mortals to understand...

LOL.  One thing you can be sure of is they won't tell you (and I am a Nikon user, not bashing but like their service they aren't know for their communication skills).

Dec 09 12 09:22 am  Link  Quote 
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ACPhotography
Posts: 8,618
Plainview, New York, US


The D600 shouldn't be a D### due to the body. It's a consumer friendly body like the D## series were, it's not a D### style non grip pro body. Then again the F6 was a non grip body and it replaced the F5 so WTF knows...

It's probably time for a whole new numbering system, I guess it's a pain to do...
Dec 09 12 02:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Allen Carbon
Posts: 1,040
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand


S W I N S K E Y wrote:

see, you are but, a mere mortal...

I am but a mere man.
Please enlighten us with your wisdom o great Swinksey!

Dec 09 12 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,528
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


Allen Carbon wrote:
I've always wondered but it's always confused me cause I've never owned a nikon  and there doesn't seem to be much of an order

With canon its real simple.

1000+ range is the entry
500+ is the hobby range
50+ is the mid range
5+ is the professional range
1+ is flagship range

revisionist lies!!!!!!!!
until the 7D came out, single digit meant full frame to the canonisti. 

perhaps you missed the riots?
the camera strap burnings?

Dec 09 12 03:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Yingwah Productions
Posts: 1,341
New York, New York, US


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

revisionist lies!!!!!!!!
until the 7D came out, single digit meant full frame to the canonisti. 

perhaps you missed the riots?
the camera strap burnings?

Most of the 1D cameras were 1.3X crop only the 1DsIII and 1DX are full frame

Dec 10 12 12:50 am  Link  Quote 
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