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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Hey everyone. So i've been doing photography for about a year and a half now, "professionally" for much less... Took my first paying job about 8 months ago. Anyway, i've done a lot of research on the agencies around LA and i'm interested in getting agency approved, however i want to make a good first impression. I don't want to show up with mediocre results and have them tell me to come back later, i'd rather show up with a rock solid portfolio and have them saying "who the fuck is this guy and where did he come from".

How common is it for first year photographers to get agency approved? I realize they look for guys with like, 10+ years experience but i can't exactly speed up time. Best i can do is try to fit 10+ years of experience into 1 year.
Dec 09 12 03:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Anne Le Monde
Posts: 11
London, England, United Kingdom


1st year male photographers often think they're better than they actually are. Keep working on your skills, look at models' published pics to learn what agencies want. Deep down you know the answer to your question. :-)
Dec 09 12 05:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


Experience counts for a lot less than results.

Show them work they can use and you will be off to a good start!

Anne Le Monde wrote:
1st year male photographers often think they're better than they actually are.

Only males?  I've seen some pretty outrageously arrogant statements from young female photographers too. I think it's a matter of age rather than gender, primarily.





Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

Dec 09 12 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 10,240
Santa Ana, California, US


When I first got approved (1st try), I'd been shooting for like maybe 2-3 years.
I think it was more about getting 20 images that were 'good' that I could show, than how many years I'd been shooting.
Dec 09 12 05:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Well i don't know about male or female photographers, but i've been known to underestimate myself. I always look back at my work even a month ago and think, "god, what complete and utter crap". smile I don't think that'll ever stop, at least i hope not! It means i'm improving. But if there is endless room for improvement it's a lot harder to set finite goals to where i'm "good enough" for a particular task. Its not that i don't think i'm "good enough" for an agency, i just really wouldn't know how to judge and its better safe than sorry.

At this point i've got the 20 good photos but they're not all glamour work, in an ideal world i'd like to have 20 different faces in my 20 good photos (all glamour), which is what i'm waiting on before i start sending out my port to agencies.
Dec 09 12 06:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Escalante
Posts: 5,367
Chicago, Illinois, US


I hope these help out some.

http://dp.lexar.com/phro-photo/how-did- … hotography
http://dp.lexar.com/phro-photo/how-did- … t-magazine 
 

Best of luck it is a awesome journey you are on.
Dec 09 12 06:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Escalante
Posts: 5,367
Chicago, Illinois, US


Anne Le Monde wrote:
1st year male photographers often think they're better than they actually are. Keep working on your skills, look at models' published pics to learn what agencies want. Deep down you know the answer to your question. :-)

Males ? realy , did you miss the lil girl who was Vogue approved? lol

It doesnt matter female or male  both do the same .

Dec 09 12 06:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Escalante wrote:
I hope these help out some.

http://dp.lexar.com/phro-photo/how-did- … hotography
http://dp.lexar.com/phro-photo/how-did- … t-magazine 
 

Best of luck it is a awesome journey you are on.

I'll take a look, thanks! smile I agree, the happiest times in my life are when i'm behind the camera

Dec 09 12 06:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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BrandonLuong
Posts: 1,016
Los Angeles, California, US


you definitely dont have to be a veteran to start working with agencies. I've known a few people who go approved within their first year of shooting. Anything is possible with hardwork
Dec 09 12 06:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vector 38
Posts: 8,296
Austin, Texas, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
How common is it for first year photographers to get agency approved?

don't think you'll be able to find that any legitimate study has ever been documented ...

Ben Hinman wrote:
I realize they look for guys with like, 10+ years experience ...

... but I'm willing to bet they're looking more for *quality* of work than for the time they've been holding a camera. just sayin'!

Dec 09 12 06:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


BrandonLuong wrote:
you definitely dont have to be a veteran to start working with agencies. I've known a few people who go approved within their first year of shooting. Anything is possible with hardwork

Well thanks! smile Do you think connections help, or do they just help to get noticed? I asked the president of my school to refer me around, but i think i may have jumped the gun a bit

Dec 09 12 08:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Leonard Gee Photography
Posts: 16,346
Sacramento, California, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
How common is it for first year photographers to get agency approved? I realize they look for guys with like, 10+ years experience but i can't exactly speed up time. Best i can do is try to fit 10+ years of experience into 1 year.

Experience or years are totally irrelevant.

Talent and consistency is everything. No agency has every done anything but looked at my book and asked a few questions like "when do you want to shot?" and "what looks are you looking to do?".

There will be many photographers with 30-50 years experience that an agency won't even talk with.

Dec 09 12 08:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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L Bass
Posts: 957
Nacogdoches, Texas, US


Keep shooting. You'll know when you're 'there.'
Dec 09 12 08:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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BrandonLuong
Posts: 1,016
Los Angeles, California, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
Well thanks! smile Do you think connections help, or do they just help to get noticed? I asked the president of my school to refer me around, but i think i may have jumped the gun a bit

of course connections help, but realistically there is only so much knowing someone can help you. I believe that if youre serious about anything and try with every fiber in your body that will get you further than knowing someone.

I think you should stop waiting around for someone to "discover" you and just go out there and do it. Make it your goal for next year. Make a commitment and follow through.

Say "I will have my book done by february, I will then approach these agencies, I will then shoot once a week, and so and so on." JUST TRY its the minimum you can do.

Dec 09 12 09:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Loki Studio
Posts: 3,000
Royal Oak, Michigan, US


You only get 1 chance to make a great impression. If you do not already have models from the agency in your portfolio and cannot get a model to introduce you to the agency staff-you are simply not ready to approach them successfully with any amount of experience.
Dec 09 12 09:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


BrandonLuong wrote:
of course connections help, but realistically there is only so much knowing someone can help you. I believe that if youre serious about anything and try with every fiber in your body that will get you further than knowing someone.

I think you should stop waiting around for someone to "discover" you and just go out there and do it. Make it your goal for next year. Make a commitment and follow through.

Say "I will have my book done by february, I will then approach these agencies, I will then shoot once a week, and so and so on." JUST TRY its the minimum you can do.

These kind of goals are very important to me. "you'll know when you're ready" isn't good enough, i like to set out a set of realistic expectations, "stairstepping" to my goal, so to speak. That way i don't have to rely on being discovered, i've got a plan of action. At the moment, my stairway is missing a few steps but thats my reason for posting here smile

Thanks for all the feedback, guys! Appreciate it!

Oh, and shooting once a week was my goal during the summer. It ended up being more like 1 every 1 1/2 or 2 weeks.

Dec 09 12 09:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mortonovich II
Posts: 716
San Diego, California, US


God, whatever you do, don't go into them saying you want to "become agency approved." They'll go WTF and peg you as a MM guy.

You tell them you want to test with some of their new faces and show them your work.
Dec 09 12 10:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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Image Magik
Posts: 1,068
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


ChiMo II wrote:
God, whatever you do, don't go into them saying you want to "become agency approved." They'll go WTF and peg you as a MM guy.

You tell them you want to test with some of their new faces and show them your work.

Haha lol good point. I would also say to compare your work to the best in the field you want to enter and decide if your ready from there.

Dec 09 12 10:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dan K Photography
Posts: 5,466
STATEN ISLAND, New York, US


Yes, it is possible, I have been shooting about as long as you and I have tested for agencies.

Go ahead and contact them worst they can do is say no.
Dec 09 12 10:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tony Lawrence
Posts: 19,199
Chicago, Illinois, US


Ben take a look at some the agencies in CA:   http://www.elitemodel.com/results.aspx? … 74&city=LA  is a good start.   Compare your work to what you see on the sites.   The first step is to try to shoot and show models who would stand a chance of being signed.   If your focused on fashion then the models must be agency standard.   I would chill on the special effects in Photoshop.  Grab a MUA and cast for two to three real world fashion faces.   

Here is FORD:   http://models.fordmodels.com/models/24   Notice the quality and simplicity in the imagery?   I am not a agency shooter so take what I say with a grain of salt but before you head out too any fashion agency know what that agency has on its web site.   You don't want too waste their time or yours.
Dec 09 12 10:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kent Art Photography
Posts: 2,861
Ashford, England, United Kingdom


I remember one agency I used to have an association with used a particular photographer because his studio was located just around the corner, so there's hope for everyone, whatever they're talent or experience - unless they are geographically challenged, that is.

OP, be professional in your approach, and good luck.
Dec 09 12 10:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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moving pictures
Posts: 664
Los Angeles, California, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
Hey everyone. So i've been doing photography for about a year and a half now, "professionally" for much less... Took my first paying job about 8 months ago. Anyway, i've done a lot of research on the agencies around LA and i'm interested in getting agency approved, however i want to make a good first impression. I don't want to show up with mediocre results and have them tell me to come back later, i'd rather show up with a rock solid portfolio and have them saying "who the fuck is this guy and where did he come from".

How common is it for first year photographers to get agency approved? I realize they look for guys with like, 10+ years experience but i can't exactly speed up time. Best i can do is try to fit 10+ years of experience into 1 year.

Agencies don't give a shit about how long you've been shooting.  All they care about is if you can give them good images to market their models with AND if that they can trust you not to be a creep or danger to their models AND that you will deliver images in a reasonable amount of time after the shoot (like two weeks).

If you want to test with agencies, go to their websites and look at the photos they use to market their models.  Being 100% honest with yourself: decide if your images are as good.

If they are...
Call them, ask for email of the person who handles testing, and email that person your best 10 images.  None of those image should be glamour.  Agencies don't want glamour.  Period.  Then wait for a response.  My suggestion is start with the smaller agencies, like Otto.  They're easier to get models from and if they don't want to shoot with you, the bigger ones certainly won't.

If your images are not....
Forget about agencies for now and shoot with MM models until you can reproduce the quality and style of what agencies want.  Cause if you don't deliver what they want, they won't waste their time with you.

As for what shots to show them:  Like I wrote, no glamour.  To agencies, glamour means tits and ass, and a creepy photographer who wants to see models naked.  The photos they want from you should be about selling the girls, not creative photoshop tricks.  And less is more: you'll be judged as only being as good as your worst photo, so fewer, better photos sell you more.

Dec 09 12 10:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


moving pictures wrote:
Agencies don't give a shit about how long you've been shooting.  All they care about is if you can give them good images to market their models with AND if that they can trust you not to be a creep or danger to their models AND that you will deliver images in a reasonable amount of time after the shoot (like two weeks).

If you want to test with agencies, go to their websites and look at the photos they use to market their models.  Being 100% honest with yourself: decide if your images are as good.

If they are...
Call them, ask for email of the person who handles testing, and email that person your best 10 images.  None of those image should be glamour.  Agencies don't want glamour.  Period.  Then wait for a response.  My suggestion is start with the smaller agencies, like Otto.  They're easier to get models from and if they don't want to shoot with you, the bigger ones certainly won't.

If your images are not....
Forget about agencies for now and shoot with MM models until you can reproduce the quality and style of what agencies want.  Cause if you don't deliver what they want, they won't waste their time with you.

As for what shots to show them:  Like I wrote, no glamour.  To agencies, glamour means tits and ass, and a creepy photographer who wants to see models naked.  The photos they want from you should be about selling the girls, not creative photoshop tricks.  And less is more: you'll be judged as only being as good as your worst photo, so fewer, better photos sell you more.

Great feedback! I think i understand about as much as i'm going about them without meeting these people face to face. I do enjoy the super artsy shots, but i'll shoot some more fashion for my port and keep those for my personal collection.

Is there a certain type of backdrop or location they look for in their shots? i.e. nature, in studio, beach, industrial, etc? Each one is different so examples for each agency would be nice. Elite, LA models and Otto perhaps.

Dec 09 12 11:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Oscar Partida
Posts: 732
Palm Springs, California, US


'' Is there a certain type of backdrop or location they look for in their shots? i.e. nature, in studio, beach, industrial, etc? Each one is different so examples for each agency would be nice. Elite, LA models and Otto perhaps.

''


less is more,styling has to be great

Dec 10 12 12:14 am  Link  Quote 
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Neil Snape
Posts: 9,472
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Some people have a strength of vision before they ever pick up a camera or telephone.

Often it is those really in the circles of the models, hip crowd that just flow with their friends and can snap off pictures that make sense to their own crowd.


Agencies are not necessarily mean, aggressive, arrogant, etc but they do want to get pictures that sell their models the best they can for the least possible money.

Don't be surprised if you do not make a cent from shooting. Your competition has decided they too want to shoot chics, have a camera,and also think they have the goods. 

You won't know until you try. And, you're right you shouldn't go before you are ready as the door may close forever.
Dec 10 12 12:39 am  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Neil Snape wrote:
Some people have a strength of vision before they ever pick up a camera or telephone.

Often it is those really in the circles of the models, hip crowd that just flow with their friends and can snap off pictures that make sense to their own crowd.


Agencies are not necessarily mean, aggressive, arrogant, etc but they do want to get pictures that sell their models the best they can for the least possible money.

Don't be surprised if you do not make a cent from shooting. Your competition has decided they too want to shoot chics, have a camera,and also think they have the goods. 

You won't know until you try. And, you're right you shouldn't go before you are ready as the door may close forever.

I know exactly what you mean! Back when i used to party more i booked more shoots, and a lot more paying ones. I should really step up my social game, i used to be all about networking.

haha i don't expect to make a whole ton doing a job that anyone would be happy to do! This was never about the money, i love shooting pictures and i love making women feel beautiful. If the farthest i ever make it is a minimum wage paid tester, i will still have accomplished my dream. I just want to do what i love for a living.

Dec 10 12 04:13 am  Link  Quote 
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liddellphoto
Posts: 1,801
London, England, United Kingdom


My big fear is managing to get in the door and then botching my first test and instead of the door being closed it is slammed shut and stays that way!
Dec 10 12 04:57 am  Link  Quote 
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Stephen K Photography
Posts: 144
Sacramento, California, US


Agencies are a little different around here near SF... but I started photography and got approved by my first in about a year and a month. Following that it took a little while longer before some of the other ones gave me the time of day, but eventually I got through to the others in the bay area.

I know you guys mentioned there's a risk that if you try too early you'll get the door closed on you, but I ended up going in to visit various agencies and show them my book. I actually ended up receiving a fairly in-depth critique (to my surprise) and suggestions on what to do from there. Two visits later and I was approved by that and the rest of the agencies that I really went after in the area.

That being said, it varies. There's another agency around here that I've called/emailed repeatedly and always end up coming back empty-handed, but luckily they aren't really one of the ones that I preferred.

I'd say as long as you orient your book towards what they want (to showcase their girls, but like people said earlier, no glamour) and you keep your work technically sound, you should have a fair shot at it. All you have to do is try to force contact with them so they realize you're not some internet-creep and are actually legitimately trying to just test with some of their girls to build your book (and theirs).

Shooting for free, what's the worst that an agency can do by sending you one girl to try out? If they know you won't be taking their models in a direction that could hurt their careers (sometimes the case with glamour) I don't think they don't have a whole lot to lose, other than the model's time if the shoot is a complete bust.

I'd say give it a go whenever you feel ready.
Dec 10 12 04:57 am  Link  Quote 
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moving pictures
Posts: 664
Los Angeles, California, US


Ben Hinman wrote:

Great feedback! I think i understand about as much as i'm going about them without meeting these people face to face. I do enjoy the super artsy shots, but i'll shoot some more fashion for my port and keep those for my personal collection.

Is there a certain type of backdrop or location they look for in their shots? i.e. nature, in studio, beach, industrial, etc? Each one is different so examples for each agency would be nice. Elite, LA models and Otto perhaps.

You shouldn't worry about getting different images for different agencies.  You just need to get great 5 - 10 images.

Don't think backgrounds. Think... do my images sell the girl. You're not selling backgrounds. 

Having a great make-up/hair/styling team helps but it's also a chicken-egg scenario as its hard to get a good team without a good model, and hard to get a good model without a good team.  When you do email an agency about a test, you should include the concept you want to shoot and who your team members are.  The more legitimate the team is, the more legitimate you look. 

A wise move maybe to pay to get a better team behind you, then use them to get a free model form an agency.  Keep in mind that if 90% of the image rocks, but 10% sucks, like bad make-up, that means your image sucks. It's your job as the photographer to ensure that all elements are great, therefore you will take the blame for that failure.  So get a great team that knows testing.

As you haven't tested before, focus on Otto, Models International, Wunder Model. A lot of their girls you'll find on MM, so the clever move is to approach the girls on MM, test with them, then when you go to those agencies, your sample shots will already have girls in them that they know of or rep.  It will make the agencies more confident in you.  Plus, if you can't get the individual girls on MM to shoot with you, getting their agencies to do so, is not likely.

Girls from agencies like Elite and l.a. models, you won't find on MM.  Those agencies are very picky as to who tests their models.  Not a good place for you to start.

As for approaching agencies too early being a danger.  That's true.  But it's not about the agency but the booker.  If the booker decides you're not good enough or if the pix you deliver suck, you've pretty much burnt that bridge and need to wait until the booker moves to another agency (it's musical chairs at agencies all the time).  At some point, they will move and you can try again the agency.  But that point may not arrive for a year or so.

Bottom line, unless your pix are of the quality that the best MM models are jumping at the opportunity to shoot with you for free, chances are slim that an agency will send you girls.  Consider that before approaching agencies.

Dec 10 12 07:59 am  Link  Quote 
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Mortonovich
Posts: 5,495
San Diego, California, US


^^^^
Excellent advice from moving pictures.

To add- concentrate much less on backgrounds and lighting and
a LOT more on styling.
Dec 10 12 08:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Mortonovich
Posts: 5,495
San Diego, California, US


Neil Snape wrote:
Often it is those really in the circles of the models, hip crowd that just flow with their friends and can snap off pictures that make sense to their own crowd.

I'm not sure if this can be overstated.

Dec 10 12 08:09 am  Link  Quote 
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shawn is boring
Posts: 1,288
Long Beach, California, US


I was agency approved within 6 months of starting, its really not that difficult, you just need to show them that you can do simple natural work, and wont try and over do every shot.
Dec 10 12 06:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Poata
Posts: 421
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand


moving pictures wrote:

You shouldn't worry about getting different images for different agencies.  You just need to get great 5 - 10 images.

Don't think backgrounds. Think... do my images sell the girl. You're not selling backgrounds. 

Having a great make-up/hair/styling team helps but it's also a chicken-egg scenario as its hard to get a good team without a good model, and hard to get a good model without a good team.  When you do email an agency about a test, you should include the concept you want to shoot and who your team members are.  The more legitimate the team is, the more legitimate you look. 

A wise move maybe to pay to get a better team behind you, then use them to get a free model form an agency.  Keep in mind that if 90% of the image rocks, but 10% sucks, like bad make-up, that means your image sucks. It's your job as the photographer to ensure that all elements are great, therefore you will take the blame for that failure.  So get a great team that knows testing.

As you haven't tested before, focus on Otto, Models International, Wunder Model. A lot of their girls you'll find on MM, so the clever move is to approach the girls on MM, test with them, then when you go to those agencies, your sample shots will already have girls in them that they know of or rep.  It will make the agencies more confident in you.  Plus, if you can't get the individual girls on MM to shoot with you, getting their agencies to do so, is not likely.

Girls from agencies like Elite and l.a. models, you won't find on MM.  Those agencies are very picky as to who tests their models.  Not a good place for you to start.

As for approaching agencies too early being a danger.  That's true.  But it's not about the agency but the booker.  If the booker decides you're not good enough or if the pix you deliver suck, you've pretty much burnt that bridge and need to wait until the booker moves to another agency (it's musical chairs at agencies all the time).  At some point, they will move and you can try again the agency.  But that point may not arrive for a year or so.

Bottom line, unless your pix are of the quality that the best MM models are jumping at the opportunity to shoot with you for free, chances are slim that an agency will send you girls.  Consider that before approaching agencies.

+10

Excellent advice smile

Dec 10 12 06:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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IrisSwope
Posts: 14,852
Dallas, Texas, US


liddellphoto wrote:
My big fear is managing to get in the door and then botching my first test and instead of the door being closed it is slammed shut and stays that way!

lol, yep. I always feel like I've botched it, but no one has said so yet.

Dec 10 12 06:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


moving pictures wrote:

You shouldn't worry about getting different images for different agencies.  You just need to get great 5 - 10 images.

Don't think backgrounds. Think... do my images sell the girl. You're not selling backgrounds. 

Having a great make-up/hair/styling team helps but it's also a chicken-egg scenario as its hard to get a good team without a good model, and hard to get a good model without a good team.  When you do email an agency about a test, you should include the concept you want to shoot and who your team members are.  The more legitimate the team is, the more legitimate you look. 

A wise move maybe to pay to get a better team behind you, then use them to get a free model form an agency.  Keep in mind that if 90% of the image rocks, but 10% sucks, like bad make-up, that means your image sucks. It's your job as the photographer to ensure that all elements are great, therefore you will take the blame for that failure.  So get a great team that knows testing.

As you haven't tested before, focus on Otto, Models International, Wunder Model. A lot of their girls you'll find on MM, so the clever move is to approach the girls on MM, test with them, then when you go to those agencies, your sample shots will already have girls in them that they know of or rep.  It will make the agencies more confident in you.  Plus, if you can't get the individual girls on MM to shoot with you, getting their agencies to do so, is not likely.

Girls from agencies like Elite and l.a. models, you won't find on MM.  Those agencies are very picky as to who tests their models.  Not a good place for you to start.

As for approaching agencies too early being a danger.  That's true.  But it's not about the agency but the booker.  If the booker decides you're not good enough or if the pix you deliver suck, you've pretty much burnt that bridge and need to wait until the booker moves to another agency (it's musical chairs at agencies all the time).  At some point, they will move and you can try again the agency.  But that point may not arrive for a year or so.

Bottom line, unless your pix are of the quality that the best MM models are jumping at the opportunity to shoot with you for free, chances are slim that an agency will send you girls.  Consider that before approaching agencies.

Thanks for the awesome advice. I've got a solid plan of action now. You should teach this stuff...

Dec 10 12 06:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 12,803
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Just remember there is no such thing as agency approved, just one agent and one agency likes you smile.  Keep working at it and build a book that you can show them with images that match their style.

Try several agencies, just because one doesn't like you doesn't mean the next won't.
Dec 10 12 07:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kincaid Blackwood
Posts: 23,372
Atlanta, Georgia, US


moving pictures has provided some excellent advice.

When you have a book that they like it's a simple process.  A book that they "like" comes down to pictures that can get their girls/guys work.  As for what that "looks like," make no assumptions about it whatsoever.  Go to their websites, look at the pictures of the models they have up there.  Compare your work to the work you see there and shoot until you're producing work like that.

When I was shooting agency girls, it was a simple matter of having shot with one girl who was with a couple of agencies (at the time she was with Gilla Roos and either Ford Miami or Click Atlanta).  Her booking agents at Gilla Roos and Ford told some of their other girls to contact me while they were here in Atlanta to refresh what they had.  Then I started getting some guys heading my way etc.  I never actually met with any of those agents in the beginning, the initial 2 or 3 girls sung my praises on how I operated and the agents liked my work.  Then when I contacted them they were already familiar with me and my imagery.
Dec 10 12 07:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,828
Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, US


Anne Le Monde wrote:
1st year male photographers often think they're better than they actually are.

Hey, don't discriminate. I've been shooting for 30 years, and not only do I think I am better than I actually am, I suck.

Yeah, I know that doesn't make sense. Kinda like your comment.

Dec 10 12 07:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


AJScalzitti wrote:
Just remember there is no such thing as agency approved, just one agent and one agency likes you smile.  Keep working at it and build a book that you can show them with images that match their style.

Try several agencies, just because one doesn't like you doesn't mean the next won't.

LOL well i suppose "agency approved" is just what photographers who test with agencies say to feel good about themselves... I can't remember how many times i've seen that in a profile. I've been reading up in the 2012 Photographers Market, there's all sorts of useful nuggets on testing with agencies. smile Since it hasn't been said, yet, one useful tidbit i found out is that name dropping is a good way to get new agencies to like you. Once you test with one, the rest is cake...

Dec 13 12 06:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Starsquid
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s-Gravenhage, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands


I'm also in the process of approaching agencies and we're (photography duo) in our second year. It doesn't matter if your work is from yesterday or 5 years ago, as long as it's good enough for the agencies. Don't get dishearted when you get rejected the first time. Develop your skills and try again.

I'm a bit confused, we're in the process of trying to get signed by an agency and being represented. Is there a difference between "agency approved" and "getting signed by an agency and being represented"?

EDIT: This about model agencies?? Why do you need to be 'model agency approved'?
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