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Yani S
Posts: 781
Los Angeles, California, US


I need to buy some triggers
For use indoor studio and sometimes outdoors
Inside studio I use Black Line Speedotron and sometimes Alien Bee 800
Outdoors Alien Bee 800 also I do have a Nikon Flash 800
Im just looking for a trigger nothing fancy. But if I need the bells and whistles it be nice for back up!
Which one do you guys think rock the best? There about around the same price.
Thanks
Dec 10 12 09:23 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AM Photography
Posts: 697
Independence, Oregon, US


Personally I like the Stratto
Dec 10 12 10:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yani S
Posts: 781
Los Angeles, California, US


AM Photography wrote:
Personally I like the Stratto

cool! you used them both then?

Dec 10 12 12:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paul AI
Posts: 572
Shawnee, Oklahoma, US


What body will you be using them on and what's the bodies max sync speed?
Dec 10 12 12:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yani S
Posts: 781
Los Angeles, California, US


250
D700
Dec 10 12 03:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Zack Zoll
Posts: 752
Glens Falls, New York, US


If you want TTL on your speedlite, the Phottix Odins will support that.  Otherwise, the Cybersyncs work identically, cost only slightly more, and Paul C. Buff is an excellent company to deal with, and has infinitely better customer service than Phottix/Stratos.  I've actually gotten detailed responses from them about how to use other manufacturer's equipment properly, and I can't say enough about that level of customer service.

Plus buying into Cybersyncs now makes it easier to move to an Einstein/Cyber Commander setup later, and that is THE COOLEST setup I've ever used.  Granted, the control scheme on the Cyber Commander is mediocre at best.  But I can control output levels remotely, and even turn on a studio light that is out of reach.  And it includes a flash meter.  Granted you can always chimp, but I find that clients are infinitely more impressed - and thus willing to recommend you to others - if you use the meter.

I know I'm being a total fanboy here, but it's important to note that I do the ordering at a photo store, and I can almost get any brand I want at a huge discount - except for PCBs, which are factory direct.  I still use PCB for all my lighting needs, and I would recommend them for anyone that wants something better than 'budget', but cannot afford Elinchroms.

And yes, I also carry Phottix smile
Dec 10 12 08:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Yani S
Posts: 781
Los Angeles, California, US


Zack Zoll wrote:
If you want TTL on your speedlite, the Phottix Odins will support that.  Otherwise, the Cybersyncs work identically, cost only slightly more, and Paul C. Buff is an excellent company to deal with, and has infinitely better customer service than Phottix/Stratos.  I've actually gotten detailed responses from them about how to use other manufacturer's equipment properly, and I can't say enough about that level of customer service.

Plus buying into Cybersyncs now makes it easier to move to an Einstein/Cyber Commander setup later, and that is THE COOLEST setup I've ever used.  Granted, the control scheme on the Cyber Commander is mediocre at best.  But I can control output levels remotely, and even turn on a studio light that is out of reach.  And it includes a flash meter.  Granted you can always chimp, but I find that clients are infinitely more impressed - and thus willing to recommend you to others - if you use the meter.

I know I'm being a total fanboy here, but it's important to note that I do the ordering at a photo store, and I can almost get any brand I want at a huge discount - except for PCBs, which are factory direct.  I still use PCB for all my lighting needs, and I would recommend them for anyone that wants something better than 'budget', but cannot afford Elinchroms.

And yes, I also carry Phottix smile

Can you use your flash meter with both and trigger them via flash meter?
What's "chimp" mean?

Dec 12 12 07:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Zack Zoll
Posts: 752
Glens Falls, New York, US


I've never tried to use the Cyber Commander's meter with a speedlite.  Based on my experience with other meters, I would guess that it would work fine, provided the flash was fairly close, or set to a brighter setting.  If you've got your SB-800 on 1/32nd power and 15 feet away, it may not register on the meter.

"Chimping" is taking a bunch of photos and looking at the LCD/histogram to see what came out.  Like a chimp.  Ooh!  Ooh!
Dec 13 12 05:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paul AI
Posts: 572
Shawnee, Oklahoma, US


Yani S wrote:
250
D700

You may be able to get the D700 to sync at 1/320th using CC.  I can get it to 1/320 on two different Nikon bodies.

Dec 13 12 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Zack Zoll
Posts: 752
Glens Falls, New York, US


On previous models, it would sync even faster if you used the old off-camera hotshoe-to-flash cable, or the new hotshoe-to-flash cable with the TTL wires cut.  You'd put your trigger on the end of that, where the flash would normally go.  Not sure if this works with newer cameras though.
Dec 14 12 06:23 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SKITA Studios
Posts: 1,321
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Zack Zoll wrote:
I've never tried to use the Cyber Commander's meter with a speedlite.  Based on my experience with other meters, I would guess that it would work fine

Only if you use a CSRB+ to trigger it (so the CC can select that channel to trigger).

If you only plan to use the AB and SB800, also look at Radiopopper JrX Studios.  Remote manual power control of both (but not Einsteins).

Dec 14 12 07:01 am  Link  Quote 
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