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Photographer
Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Wanted to make my small softbox, even softer and was also testing some novel ways to make a sort of ring-light.  Of course, you can't shoot through this kind, but it sort of worked...

And I've no pretty girls to test with, so you're subjected to my weary self portraits... sorry.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bl_DPlXFuFs/UMbTwZAyViI/AAAAAAAAJzU/mP6ucPcXZTc/w628-h417-n-k/DS4_7642.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RXjqfgwUoqM/UMbTwgdkiUI/AAAAAAAAJzM/Ug5oGZQmLa0/w629-h417-n-k/DS4_7643.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j8mqoUucUMM/UMbTxDEQ_sI/AAAAAAAAJzc/fN3BWvvqHEU/s800/DS4_7644.JPG

Used the bag/shell of the 5-in-1 reflector to create a ring silhouette.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-skwVwH4JZ4M/UMbTxuLX27I/AAAAAAAAJzg/tskGgeMsdrw/s800/DS4_7645.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PJnb9wZIBNE/UMbTTdk-ocI/AAAAAAAAJzA/kfbp6nUJAhk/s800/0006.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uA-LvVF6jEQ/UMbWP9K92uI/AAAAAAAAJz8/mM0UF8W2qbU/s1104/0002.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HZ8QZxZcBCI/UMbVZFUupmI/AAAAAAAAJzs/HXkHtJwmjvM/s1104/0051web.jpg
Dec 10 12 10:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
The Effective Image
Posts: 3,515
Lansing, Michigan, US


Interesting... but the donut catch light is NOT the only reason to use a ring light. Your images don't show any edge shadows... you used a black background. And a soft box won't produce the ring light's dark edge shadow (see image below shot with a 'borrowed' ring light but not shot through the ring.)

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120811/11/5026a47a20cdb_m.jpg
Dec 10 12 11:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
LA StarShooter
Posts: 1,035
Beverly Hills, California, US


Extrosy wrote:
Wanted to make my small softbox, even softer and was also testing some novel ways to make a sort of ring-light.  Of course, you can't shoot through this kind, but it sort of worked...

And I've no pretty girls to test with, so you're subjected to my weary self portraits... sorry.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bl_DPlXFuFs/UMbTwZAyViI/AAAAAAAAJzU/mP6ucPcXZTc/w628-h417-n-k/DS4_7642.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RXjqfgwUoqM/UMbTwgdkiUI/AAAAAAAAJzM/Ug5oGZQmLa0/w629-h417-n-k/DS4_7643.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j8mqoUucUMM/UMbTxDEQ_sI/AAAAAAAAJzc/fN3BWvvqHEU/s800/DS4_7644.JPG

Used the bag/shell of the 5-in-1 reflector to create a ring silhouette.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-skwVwH4JZ4M/UMbTxuLX27I/AAAAAAAAJzg/tskGgeMsdrw/s800/DS4_7645.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PJnb9wZIBNE/UMbTTdk-ocI/AAAAAAAAJzA/kfbp6nUJAhk/s800/0006.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uA-LvVF6jEQ/UMbWP9K92uI/AAAAAAAAJz8/mM0UF8W2qbU/s1104/0002.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HZ8QZxZcBCI/UMbVZFUupmI/AAAAAAAAJzs/HXkHtJwmjvM/s1104/0051web.jpg

What an interesting lighting experiment. I like the portrait of you kneeling down as it is a good illustration of the possibilities. As the man who posted the biker babe photo pointed out, you don't quite see some of the qualities of a ring light in your shot. Great experiment!

Dec 10 12 11:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


The Effective Image wrote:
Interesting... but the donut catch light is NOT the only reason to use a ring light. Your images don't show any edge shadows... you used a black background. And a soft box won't produce the ring light's dark edge shadow (see image below shot with a 'borrowed' ring light but not shot through the ring.)

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120811/11/5026a47a20cdb_m.jpg

Good to know.  I just like the doghnut catch-lights, which is what I was going for.  The kneeling shot was shot through the diffuser but not with the ring so that may also be why you aren't seeing the shadows you expect.

I think I would need a larger black disk to get a thinner ring effect, which would mean cranking up the power of the flash, and probably ISO...  The other thing is this allows you to create cut-outs of what ever shape catch-light you want, such as stars?

This is what I'd really like to get

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1318/584437896_4e5316ba88_z.jpg?zz=1

Dec 10 12 11:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Matthew Grogan
Posts: 284
Easton, Pennsylvania, US


I must call bullsh*t on your absurd and never before substantiated claims that a model actually flaked on you (or anyone else, for that matter). I suppose you also expect us to believe men walked on the moon and Elvis is dead.

You simply wanted to work even harder than you had planned to and take self-portraits rather than photograph a beautiful young woman with your creative lighting.

We all know full well models NEVER flake, it's a myth, so please drop this ridiculous pretense and apologize to all models on MM (and lesser websites) via a full page ad in the White Knight e-newsletter.

(Seriously though, good work, lighting looks great)
Dec 11 12 01:28 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Funny guy smile   = was preparing to get all defensive.
She even confirmed the previous night, seriously?

btw, folding the reflector cover without the rim is way harder!
Dec 11 12 07:10 am  Link  Quote 
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ChiMo
Posts: 4,419
San Diego, California, US


Cool deal. Bravo to experimenting.
Dec 11 12 07:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BBH Photography
Posts: 87
Windsor, Ontario, Canada


Thanks for sharing! Thinking out of the box...err ring light!
Dec 11 12 08:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paul AI
Posts: 572
Shawnee, Oklahoma, US


Ouch, she confirmed the night before?  I've only had one flake and I should have known something was up when she didn't give me a contact number.
Dec 11 12 08:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paul Pardue Photography
Posts: 5,457
San Francisco, California, US


if all you're going for is the doughnut catch light i'd say you did, however, as said above all you have is a doughnut shaped catch light.  Aside from that it's effectively no different than any other shoot through light source (umbrella, softbox, et cetera).  in fact I'd venture that it does nothing but give you a doughnut catch light.

now, really all you've done is create a gobo or cookie, which isn't anything special...  Gaff tape a largish rectangular softbox in a cross/+ pattern and you've got window panes, layer strips of varying size and you can get 'through the trees' catch lights, et cetera.  Point is, light quality and type doesn't change much, all you're doing is altering the catchlights (or if your source light is hard enough you can cast shadows 'through' things like windows or trees or whatever...

kudos for experimenting, while you're at it might as well look up 'gobo' and 'cucoloris' (cookie) on google for some examples.
Dec 11 12 09:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Paul Pardue Photography wrote:
kudos for experimenting, while you're at it might as well look up 'gobo' and 'cucoloris' (cookie) on google for some examples.

And the catchlights is really all I was going for, and wanted to do it without buying something I didn't already have. 

Oh, and the larger diffuser, which actually worked really well, at a cost of 2 stops of light.

Preferably I'd want to shoot through it though.  hmm

Dec 11 12 09:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Paul AI wrote:
Ouch, she confirmed the night before?  I've only had one flake and I should have known something was up when she didn't give me a contact number.

She still hasn't signed on to MM either.  Maybe she got in a car accident?

Dec 11 12 09:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paul Pardue Photography
Posts: 5,457
San Francisco, California, US


Extrosy wrote:

She still hasn't signed on to MM either.  Maybe she got in a car accident?

i've had people flake after confirming day of.  Never to hear from them again...

i had a makeup artist that schedule with 3 girls in one day and all 3 confirmed the night before, and then only one of them actually showed up...

Dec 11 12 09:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John M Hoyt
Posts: 284
Greenville, South Carolina, US


My wife thinks the OP should model more. Heh
Dec 12 12 08:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GreatMomentsPhotography
Posts: 2,365
Orlando, Florida, US


Extrosy wrote:
She still hasn't signed on to MM either.  Maybe she got in a car accident?

Maybe she is playing hide and seek smile Just a thought. I just met one in a meet this past weekend. She got a spank from me.

Dec 13 12 05:20 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FlirtynFun Photography
Posts: 11,973
Houston, Texas, US


Extrosy wrote:

She still hasn't signed on to MM either.  Maybe she got in a car accident?

Guarantee that a Grandma died somewhere.

Dec 13 12 05:34 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Jewett
Posts: 2,257
al-Marsā, Tunis, Tunisia


I think this is all a clever cover-up of your desire to post pictures of yourself without a shirt. smile
Dec 13 12 05:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


FlirtynFun Photography wrote:

Guarantee that a Grandma died somewhere.

She finally followed up.   
A friend borrowed her truck and wrecked it  (there was a snow storm that day) and she's been staying at her boyfriend's house who doesn't have internet access.

My Saturday model just cancelled as well (when I followed up) because her shoulder hurts really bad and it's getting worse.   

I have never had someone under 18 flake on me.  ironic?

Dec 13 12 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Extrosy
Posts: 653
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Robert Jewett wrote:
I think this is all a clever cover-up of your desire to post pictures of yourself without a shirt. smile

If you knew me, you would know how unlikely it would be for me to be photographed, let a lone without a shirt on.  smile

Dec 13 12 10:40 am  Link  Quote 
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