I know this is going to cause a great debate, but anyway, here we go.
I am looking to buy a new camera. I wouldn't call myself a "pro" (yet), I am still learning my kraft. Looking at something to suit a beginner with room to expand with my skills. I am quite keen on the Nikon 3200. (as I have used the 3100 in the past) I am not loyal to any brand, so I am open to all suggestions.
A Gordon wrote: I know this is going to cause a great debate, but anyway, here we go.
I am looking to buy a new camera. I wouldn't call myself a "pro" (yet), I am still learning my kraft. Looking at something to suit a beginner with room to expand with my skills. I am quite keen on the Nikon 3200. (as I have used the 3100 in the past) I am not loyal to any brand, so I am open to all suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Andrew
The D3200 is a pretty good camera(but tiny)... especially if your use to a D3100's clunky interface. If you want something to grow into, I would really suggest getting a used D7000(I have one) for nearly the same price as a D3200.
If you're interested in a gripped D3100 for an excellent price, I have one that is lightly used and want to sell it along with my 18-200VRII.I haven't touched either in a few years and since I'm about to drop some cash on a 24-70 2.8 for my D600..... I gotta sell em.
Kaouthia
Posts: 3,080
Lancaster, England, United Kingdom
A Gordon wrote: I am quite keen on the Nikon 3200.
For what it costs now, it's an amazing camera. My wife has had one since about March or April or whenever it was they first came out, and she loves it.
I've played with it a couple of times myself, and it is rather impressive.
A Gordon wrote: I know this is going to cause a great debate, but anyway, here we go.
I am looking to buy a new camera. I wouldn't call myself a "pro" (yet), I am still learning my kraft. Looking at something to suit a beginner with room to expand with my skills. I am quite keen on the Nikon 3200. (as I have used the 3100 in the past) I am not loyal to any brand, so I am open to all suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Andrew
There's another thread recently about this same issue where the OP went with a D3200 so you may want to search for that.
A few quick summary thoughts:
1. Lots of great cameras out there. You aren't looking for the best camera. Or the camera with the best specs. Or the best camera you can afford. You're looking for the camera that does what you want it to do and fits your needs.
2. D3200 has lots of positives. A couple of things that rarely get mentioned but are big motivators for some who go with it: it doesn't have an internal AF motor in the body (both a pro and a con). But on the positive side, that makes it smaller and lighter. If you've got small hands, little fingers, have any kind of shake (my Dad for instance has early Parkinson's), or it's just difficult to hold a big body for a long shoot, than a smaller-lighter body is a huge plus. And that's the D3200.
3. This is one of those deals (if you feel comfortable with the D3200) where you want to go to a camera story and hold two different bodies. For comparison (b/c they'll have some similar setup), hold a d3200 and a different Nikon (like a D90 or a d7000 or D300S) and you'll notice the size/weight difference. And you'll be able to see if you actually like a bigger camera (I have stubby fingers and actually prefer a bigger body).
4. Remember, D3200 has no AF motor. So you either acquire lens that have an internal AF motor in them. Or you shoot all manual. That's not necessarily a negative, you just need to be aware of that in making your decision.
One last thought (that may be completely irrelevant to you). Smaller cameras tend to be less intimidating to some groups of people when shooting overseas. If you travel a lot, especially to LDCs and shoot, a D3200 with a smaller lens is generally going to get more smiles and cooperation from locals in rural areas.
It takes great pictures, is compact and can travel easily, the camera and lenses are affordable.
+1 I absolutely love my OMD E-M5. The 45 1.8 is an amazing lens and combined with the OMD it continues to blow me away. If you can find one used you can pick one up for about $300, but $399 for this lens is still a bargain. I'd strongly suggest the grip, but with so many after market grips just the one piece is perfect to make this camera complete. If you want a capable camera that you can still grow into with a ton of nice features. Check one out.
You didn't mention what your $$ is...or if you want new or used...
As far as new,fairly affordable gear goes:
For a bit under $2000 you could buy the new Sony NEX-6 w/the Zeiss
24mm 1.4 AND the Sony 50mm 1.8.
It would be hard to beat the quality,features and versatility of that combo IMHO!!!
Have you thought about buying second hand? Some great deals out there after Christmas. Also consider investing more in quality lenses for future proofing your investment.
+1 I absolutely love my OMD E-M5. The 45 1.8 is an amazing lens and combined with the OMD it continues to blow me away. If you can find one used you can pick one up for about $300, but $399 for this lens is still a bargain. I'd strongly suggest the grip, but with so many after market grips just the one piece is perfect to make this camera complete. If you want a capable camera that you can still grow into with a ton of nice features. Check one out.
They were going for $200 under normal price on black Friday here im Canada so I got an om-d and have to say I'm loving it so far! Tiny, light and great image quality.
AJScalzitti wrote: Nothing wrong with the 3200. It lacks a lot of manual controls but it's IQ is very good, as long as you don't mind menus go for it.
...and you know, for portrait shooting, a lot of manual buttons and switches aren't really that big a deal. It's no biggie to hit the "info" button and make a few quick changes on the LCD for a series of images.
People spend way too much money and time on gear they usually don't need to accomplish what they're trying to do.
OP, I would just get the D3200 and buy some quality lenses. You'll have the glass for years. The camera will be obsolete in a year and a half. You'll be glad you didn't pay $3,000.00 for it.
If you already have used Nikon and liked it - that's as good a reason to go that way anyway. Nothing wrong with Canon, Pentax, Sony or Nikon - but once you start you'll probably stay on that brand simply because you'll get used to their camera controls and you'll start to accumulate lenses etc.
I am a happy D7000 user and would definitely think it a worthwhile step up from the D3200 myself - I would think of the the D7000 as a semi-pro whereas the D3200 might be more talented amateur - but others may disagree. Splitting the difference, you could look at the D5100 - lots of discounts now or coming, since the D5200 replacement has already launched in Europe. Don't be put off by the D5100 being discontinued - it was a great camera last year and still is.
Beware the D3200 and D5100 don't have Autofocus motors so can't use just any old Nikon lens - needs to be AF-S (but check that). The D7000 doesn't have that problem.
It all comes down to budget, your ambition, and what deals are around.
Matty272
Posts: 216
Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom
A Gordon wrote: I know this is going to cause a great debate, but anyway, here we go.
I am looking to buy a new camera. I wouldn't call myself a "pro" (yet), I am still learning my kraft. Looking at something to suit a beginner with room to expand with my skills. I am quite keen on the Nikon 3200. (as I have used the 3100 in the past) I am not loyal to any brand, so I am open to all suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Andrew
Praktica MTL 5 B - came with 50mm 1.8 in the kit and a flash (sadly, the flash no longer works due to having batteries left in it while stored) Can often be found in charity shops for approx £5. There's also masses of m42 glass available on ebay for pennies to go with the body......
This isn't a facetious answer, in case you're wondering. Being limited to 24 or 36 frames per roll slows you down and makes you think about what you're capturing; especially when you're paying for processing at a lab rather than doing your own printing.
I'm looking up at the shelf where mine is sitting and wondering if I can get hold of some film today to capture the weather.........
Praktica MTL 5 B - came with 50mm 1.8 in the kit and a flash (sadly, the flash no longer works due to having batteries left in it while stored) Can often be found in charity shops for approx £5. There's also masses of m42 glass available on ebay for pennies to go with the body......
This isn't a facetious answer, in case you're wondering. Being limited to 24 or 36 frames per roll slows you down and makes you think about what you're capturing; especially when you're paying for processing at a lab rather than doing your own printing.
I'm looking up at the shelf where mine is sitting and wondering if I can get hold of some film today to capture the weather.........
I can remember wanting one of those so bad - but it was out of my price range and I had to settle for a zenith instead. I so wanted the east German technology over the Russian.