AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
Instead of waiting for the right people to notice this thread (which might not happen before it disappears off the first page), I suggest you use one of the many search functions to find threads on MM about these two bodies. There were several when they came out.

Just creating a fresh discussion on the topic thank you.

Neil Peters Fotografie wrote:
i'm curious about this too
i have 4, 50  year old leica lenses, doing nothing
i've read many reviews about the x-pro 1 with the M mount
and nothing has been definitive, or even consistant
especially how the non-auto focusing actually works with leica lenses

the Fuji site listing
of what Leica lenses will work on the pro 1 is incomplete
although the mount comes with a measureing device, to test each lens
i'd rather know before i purchase, not after

on paper, the x pro 1, with leica lenses, is a supreme set up.
i am well aware the fuji lenses are superb, and worth buying
but, the curiousity is overwhelming

This is why I'm leaning towards the X-E1 with the improved resolution of the EVF and focusing zoom feature for manual "M" lenses, you wouldn't have to rely on calibrating the OVF like you would on the X-Pro1 with its EVF being half the resolution.
I played with both llamas and as much as I'm a purist when it comes to optical view finders, the EVF on the new body is pretty damn cool.

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:
I have and love my X-Pro1. It's a camera with a couple quirks, but the image quality (imo) is outstanding in a relatively small and simple package. The only big downside (for me) is the focusing not matching that of DSLRs; that's to be expected though, as it's contrast detect auto focus, vs phase detection.

The focusing thing would be my concern as well as I love to open it up 70% of the time and I hate when I miss my point of focus.
I did read the the software update has improved focusing issues and with the Fuji X series lenses the AF has improved. I don't know if that is just speed or accuracy, or both.

Art Silva Photography wrote:

The focusing thing would be my concern as well as I love to open it up 70% of the time and I hate when I miss my point of focus.
I did read the the software update has improved focusing issues and with the Fuji X series lenses the AF has improved. I don't know if that is just speed or accuracy, or both.

I had the X-Pro1 and loved the quality it put out, the look and feel, but I returned it. The reason why returned it was because the focusing, as a dad for a 18 month old, I need something fast. I am also not a huge fan of electronic view finders. If I had the money for multiple camera systems I would keep it in a heartbeat.

FootNote Fotography wrote:
I had the X-Pro1 and loved the quality it put out, the look and feel, but I returned it. The reason why returned it was because the focusing, as a dad for a 18 month old, I need something fast. I am also not a huge fan of electronic view finders. If I had the money for multiple camera systems I would keep it in a heartbeat.

It's all about how you use your tools and what they are for. I agree that the Fuji's will never take place of the DSLRs (I have a lifetime of Nikon gear for that kind of speed and response), this would basically be my "take a step back, creative" camera that I could easily carry around... You know just like the old school rangefinders we (I) used back in high school.

Andrew Kaiser wrote:
I purchased it a few weeks ago and returned it already.

I wanted to love this camera and Fuji got really close to making something great.  However, I primarily wanted to use this with my classic M-mount lenses and it was just too hard to get accurate focus wide open with the EVF.  I had to strain my eyes in a big way and if my subject was moving, even a little bit, it was nearly impossible.  If Fuji were to update the camera with a focus peaking feature like Sony has with the NEX cameras I would re-purchase it again in a heart beat.

Leaving that feature out is I think Fuji's way of encouraging people to buy Fuji lenses with auto focus.  I'm sure they are great lenses but I just didn't want it for that.

For now I'll be sticking with the NEX.  I don't love the ergonomics of the NEX series at all but I can easily use my M-mount lenses with it in a digital format without breaking the bank for a digital Leica.

Hmmm Interesting.

May I ask which one you had because the EVF is different on both models, and which M lenses you used with which M adapter?

I did research on the Sony Focus Peaking from users and I heard good and bad things about accuracy and annoyances of the feature. Not totally sold on that yet.

Art Silva Photography wrote:
The focusing thing would be my concern as well as I love to open it up 70% of the time and I hate when I miss my point of focus.
I did read the the software update has improved focusing issues and with the Fuji X series lenses the AF has improved. I don't know if that is just speed or accuracy, or both.

Accuracy is absolutely spot on. It's just not as fast as a pro-dslr though.

Speed did improve dramatically with firmware updates, but its still contrast detect vs phase detect, so it's limited by the technology. (Only Nikon and Sony have phase detect at the moment, and in Sony's case it doesn't change things much)

Art Silva Photography wrote:

Hmmm Interesting.

May I ask which one you had because the EVF is different on both models, and which M lenses you used with which M adapter?

I did research on the Sony Focus Peaking from users and I heard good and bad things about accuracy and annoyances of the feature. Not totally sold on that yet.

Fuji won't be using focus peaking any time soon. They already updated the manual mode when using EVF to be contrastier, with two zoom modes (3x and 10x). If your main goal is to use manual focus lenses, I suspect the NEX series is better.

It appears I'm the only person who hasn't returned their Fuji X series, so that probably tells you something.

Art Silva Photography wrote:
Hmmm Interesting.

May I ask which one you had because the EVF is different on both models, and which M lenses you used with which M adapter?

I did research on the Sony Focus Peaking from users and I heard good and bad things about accuracy and annoyances of the feature. Not totally sold on that yet.

It was the newest one, the X-E1 that only has an EVF.

I tried using a 90mm Elmarit, a 50mm Summicron, a 50mm Planar, and a 40mm Nokton.  I also used a 15mm Heliar and that was the only one I found non-frustrating with the X-E1 but that was largely due to the massive wide angle and extreme depth of field. 

As for focus peaking on the NEX, it rocks.  It makes focusing as easy as using a range finder with a really bright focus patch.  I only wish the NEX was more comfortable in your hand like the X-E1 is.