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SPRINGHEEL

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Sha-Lynne wrote:

Not exactly...in both cases she got angry for no good reason (in my opinion) and in that case it would fit.  Some people just look for reasons and I feel like she's one of them.  She's had fights with friend B as well and I can't imagine anyone fighting with her...that was the only point I was making. 

To anyone who's ever seen a meme, I would think it's an obvious joke.  I could understand if she was older and didn't really see memes but...that's not the case.  And like I said before, she's made Jew jokes in my presence before...didn't care.  She didn't change her stance even after I told her that wasn't the intent and that it was making fun of perpetually grumpy people/personified animals, she still insisted that I had done it intentionally to hurt her.  To me, she's making the choice to believe that...

Ok

Dec 25 12 07:12 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Svend wrote:

No, reality can be unearthed with clean explanation.  Whether someone is capable or willing to understand it is the key to whether they continue to find offense or not.

Exactly!  I took it down and told her the intent and how I had read it and she still insisted that I was trying to be offensive.  If she had been offended by the meme and I hadn't cared, that would be one thing...but I did talk to her about it.

Dec 25 12 07:14 pm Link

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Sophia Be

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Portland, Oregon, US

R_Marquez wrote:
At the height of the biggest Christian religious celebration, it comes off as a cheap shot.

I'm not a religious nut. It's not even about respecting the beliefs of others, it's about not being a crappy person by making light of something people feel passionate about.

For the commercial world and some people, Christmas is about some fat guy and gifts. For others, it's more than that.

It's not that the OP meant to be offensive, maybe she didn't, maybe she didn't. But, the fact is, she did, regardless of whether she thought so.

And I disagree. *Anything* can be offensive to someone. I don't find it blatantly offensive. It's not a direct bash to Christians. It's not saying "all Christians are stupid assholes", or something awful, that would be blatant. Jesus is generally liked, even by non-Christians.

Grumpy cat has memes that hate on sunshine, smiles, and babies, does that mean if I like sunshine, smiles or babies I should be offended?

I like those things. If I was offended by that, that would be silly.

If someone is offended, that's their choice.

BTW I'm about as PC as a person can get, but even I have limits to how much I'm gonna tip toe around, especially when it comes to harmless humor

Dec 25 12 08:19 pm Link

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Kitty LaRose

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Just my two cents:

Obviously, I'm Christian. Did I find the picture offensive? No. I knew about Grumpy Cat (well, I'd seen multiple memes of him anyway), so I knew where it was stemming from. Did I find it lacking in taste? A bit, yes. But, I'm also one of those people who prefers to not make fun of any religion, whether I agree with it or not because I understand how sensitive that topic may be. I know with some of my family and friends being LDS, all the Mormon bashing with Romney's campaign has made Christianity jokes a bit harder to smile through. Is it silly to rise to a cat meme? No. But, then again, I firmly support people being true to their feelings, whether I understand them or not.

So, I guess to my point: Sha, some people will be offended and some won't. I don't blame you for not understanding, but I can definitely see how saying it's "something silly" to be offended by is insensitive.

Edit:
I really need to read all of the thread before I finish this post. smile

Edit Part II:
Okay. I've read it. I think person A is being too sensitive here. It bothers me that she had no issue saying Jewish jokes but is being butt-hurt over a cat meme. So, yes, I completely understand with the whole, "I don't understand" standpoint.

With what I've said about the picture in general, I stand by my words. smile It could be offensive to some or not at all to others depending on how it's interpreted (funny cat-meme or good-that-Christ-allegedly-died-regardless-of-reason).

Dec 25 12 09:24 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kitty LaRose wrote:
Just my two cents:

Obviously, I'm Christian. Did I find the picture offensive? No. I knew about Grumpy Cat (well, I'd seen multiple memes of him anyway), so I knew where it was stemming from. Did I find it lacking in taste? A bit, yes. But, I'm also one of those people who prefers to not make fun of any religion, whether I agree with it or not because I understand how sensitive that topic may be. I know with some of my family and friends being LDS, all the Mormon bashing with Romney's campaign has made Christianity jokes a bit harder to smile through. Is it silly to rise to a cat meme? No. But, then again, I firmly support people being true to their feelings, whether I understand them or not.

So, I guess to my point: Sha, some people will be offended and some won't. I don't blame you for not understanding, but I can definitely see how saying it's "something silly" to be offended by is insensitive.

Edit:
I really need to read all of the thread before I finish this post. smile

Edit Part II:
Okay. I've read it. I think person A is being too sensitive here. It bothers me that she had no issue saying Jewish jokes but is being butt-hurt over a cat meme. So, yes, I completely understand with the whole, "I don't understand" standpoint.

With what I've said about the picture in general, I stand by my words. smile It could be offensive to some or not at all to others depending on how it's interpreted (funny cat-meme or good-that-Christ-allegedly-died-regardless-of-reason).

I just feel like if you'd seen the meme on my fb page, you'd know that I wasn't trying to be offensive since you've met me (as has this person).  Even if you did find it offensive, I don't think that you'd be aggressive about it...you'd be like "meh, I don't like this but she wasn't trying to be hurtful", right?

Dec 25 12 11:03 pm Link

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Mr Banner

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Hayward, California, US

clothes are offensive to me too.

Dec 25 12 11:08 pm Link

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Gabrielle Heather

Posts: 10064

Middle Island, New York, US

this is still going? for shame

Dec 25 12 11:14 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

Posts: 22685

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Damon Banner wrote:
clothes are offensive to me too.

It's true...shoes are okay though.

Dec 25 12 11:19 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

Posts: 22685

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Gabrielle Heather wrote:
this is still going? for shame

Yea totally missing why this took off but the Jesus spanking thing isn't getting any flak.

Dec 25 12 11:22 pm Link

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Mr Banner

Posts: 85322

Hayward, California, US

Sha-Lynne wrote:

It's true...shoes are okay though.

depends what type os shoe;.  like tennis shoes,..  no.

but 9 inche heels are okay

Dec 25 12 11:25 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

Posts: 22685

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Damon Banner wrote:

depends what type os shoe;.  like tennis shoes,..  no.

but 9 inche heels are okay

As long as I'm not walking outside barefoot...

Dec 25 12 11:28 pm Link

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Lumatic

Posts: 13750

Brooklyn, New York, US

Kitty LaRose wrote:
Edit Part II:
Okay. I've read it. I think person A is being too sensitive here. It bothers me that she had no issue saying Jewish jokes but is being butt-hurt over a cat meme. So, yes, I completely understand with the whole, "I don't understand" standpoint.

Actually, I can understand fine based on what we know of her.  Evidently, she can be defensive, hypocritical, and self-absorbed. 

Frankly, from what's been said, the chances she's had an original thought of her own since childhood strike me as slim at best.  It's rare enough for many people, and especially people who exhibit behavior like that.

So yeah.  Not a great leap when you think about it.

Dec 25 12 11:31 pm Link

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Gabrielle Heather

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Middle Island, New York, US

Sha-Lynne wrote:
Yea totally missing why this took off but the Jesus spanking thing isn't getting any flak.

depends on where its posted. And if you make it a big deal or not I guess.

Dec 25 12 11:42 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Lumatic wrote:

Actually, I can understand fine based on what we know of her.  Evidently, she can be defensive, hypocritical, and self-absorbed. 

Frankly, from what's been said, the chances she's had an original thought of her own since childhood strike me as slim at best.

So yeah.  Not a great leap when you think about it.

For a split second, I thought you were talking about me...I was like wuddidooooo????  LoL

She's not a bad person...just her mind works kind of weird and she goes from 0 to 100 in .00001 seconds.

Dec 25 12 11:49 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Gabrielle Heather wrote:

depends on where its posted. And if you make it a big deal or not I guess.

I was just referring to the two threads in here.  The post on FB was only up for about 5 minutes before I took it down.

Dec 25 12 11:51 pm Link

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kickfight

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Portland, Oregon, US

Gabrielle Heather wrote:
this is still going? for shame

Sha-Lynne wrote:
Yea totally missing why this took off but the Jesus spanking thing isn't getting any flak.

A couple folks *are* throwing themselves a little hissy fit over that.

Dec 25 12 11:53 pm Link

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Gabrielle Heather

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Middle Island, New York, US

if you personally want to let it die...... have the mods lock it...... or you can stop responding to people................ It will die down.

Dec 25 12 11:55 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

kickfight wrote:
A couple folks *are* throwing themselves a little hissy fit over that.

Ah okay, must've missed it

Dec 25 12 11:56 pm Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Gabrielle Heather wrote:
if you personally want to let it die...... have the mods lock it...... or you can stop responding to people................ It will die down.

Meh I don't really care just found it curious.

Dec 25 12 11:56 pm Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Sha-Lynne wrote:

For a split second, I thought you were talking about me...I was like wuddidooooo????  LoL

She's not a bad person...just her mind works kind of weird and she goes from 0 to 100 in .00001 seconds.

Oh sure, I'm not saying she's a bad person.  I mean, you're friends with her and besides, nobody's totally one-dimensional.  I think I've been careful not to make any judgements about her personally, since all we know about her is what you've told us. 

But since you consider her a friend even though she can behave like that, it kind of makes sense that she more or less blind-sided your sensibilities with this.

Dec 26 12 12:14 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Gabrielle Heather wrote:
if you personally want to let it die...... have the mods lock it...... or you can stop responding to people................ It will die down.

THIS THREAD WILL NEVAR DIE!  NEVARRR!







What?  Did I say that out loud?

Dec 26 12 12:19 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Lumatic wrote:
Frankly, from what's been said, the chances she's had an original thought of her own since childhood strike me as slim at best.

Sha-Lynne wrote:
For a split second, I thought you were talking about me...I was like wuddidooooo????  LoL

Nah, you have all kinds of original thoughts!  Remember that one time when you said "Ooc Ooc?"  That was awesome!

lol

Dec 26 12 12:22 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

kickfight wrote:
A couple folks *are* throwing themselves a little hissy fit over that.

lol

That's some good comedy over there.

Dec 26 12 12:33 am Link

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Sha-Lynne

Posts: 22685

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Lumatic wrote:

Oh sure, I'm not saying she's a bad person.  I mean, you're friends with her and besides, nobody's totally one-dimensional.  I think I've been careful not to make any judgements about her personally, since all we know about her is what you've told us. 

But since you consider her a friend even though she can behave like that, it kind of makes sense that she more or less blind-sided your sensibilities with this.

Honestly, she's more of an acquaintance...I mostly hang out with her for friend B.  I mean before all of the drama, I liked her.  She's fun.  Up until the first incident I thought she was chill...there were no indications.  Even after that, I thought it was an isolated incident but this makes it seem otherwise.

Dec 26 12 12:40 am Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Lumatic wrote:

Lumatic wrote:
Frankly, from what's been said, the chances she's had an original thought of her own since childhood strike me as slim at best.

Nah, you have all kinds of original thoughts!  Remember that one time when you said "Ooc Ooc?"  That was awesome!

lol

I say that all the damn time.

Dec 26 12 12:41 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Sha-Lynne wrote:

I say that all the damn time.

See, that's what I don't get.  Anybody that says Ooc Ooc as much as you do could not possibly be offensive.

A little bananas, maybe.  But certainly not offensive.

Dec 26 12 12:47 am Link

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Sha-Lynne

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Lumatic wrote:

See, that's what I don't get.  Anybody that says Ooc Ooc as much as you do could not possibly be offensive.

A little bananas, maybe.  But certainly not offensive.

https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/This_29b5e6_2581122.jpg

Dec 26 12 01:21 am Link

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Svend

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Windsor, Colorado, US

Lumatic wrote:

lol

That's some good comedy over there.

yikes

I hope it didn't offend anyone! yikes

Dec 26 12 07:30 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Sha-Lynne wrote:

https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/This_29b5e6_2581122.jpg

No worky

Dec 26 12 10:55 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Svend wrote:

yikes

I hope it didn't offend anyone! yikes

Throw three Hail Marys and an onside kick and you'll be forgiven.

Dec 26 12 10:56 am Link

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Svend

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Windsor, Colorado, US

Lumatic wrote:

Throw three Hail Marys and an onside kick and you'll be forgiven.

I don't play hockey.

Dec 26 12 11:02 am Link

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Kitty LaRose

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Kansas City, Missouri, US

Sha-Lynne wrote:
I just feel like if you'd seen the meme on my fb page, you'd know that I wasn't trying to be offensive since you've met me (as has this person).  Even if you did find it offensive, I don't think that you'd be aggressive about it...you'd be like "meh, I don't like this but she wasn't trying to be hurtful", right?

I think anyone who knows you should be able to see that you aren't a hateful person who tries to cause offense. If I were to ever be offended by something you post--which I doubt will ever happen--I'd just send a PM and express my concern and leave it at that.

Dec 26 12 11:04 am Link

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Svend

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Windsor, Colorado, US

Kitty LaRose wrote:

I think anyone who knows you should be able to see that you aren't a hateful person who tries to cause offense. If I were to ever be offended by something you post--which I doubt will ever happen--I'd just send a PM and express my concern and leave it at that.

Which would be the reasonable thing for anyone to do. smile  That's really my entire point on the subject of offense.

Dec 26 12 11:08 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Svend wrote:

I don't play hockey.

Yeah, me neither.  Somehow, my mom always knew the difference when I was sick and when I was faking it to stay home.

Dec 26 12 11:11 am Link

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Svend

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Windsor, Colorado, US

Lumatic wrote:

Yeah, me neither.  Somehow, my mom always knew the difference when I was sick and when I was faking it to stay home.

I played with a left-handed stick even though I'm right-handed and my flat feet made standing on skates unbearable.  The only time I had fun playing was when a fight would break out. tongue

Dec 26 12 11:23 am Link

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Lumatic

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Svend wrote:

I played with a left-handed stick even though I'm right-handed and my flat feet made standing on skates unbearable.  The only time I had fun playing was when a fight would break out. tongue

I don't get that about hockey.  Nobody actually cares about the game - they might as well just put ice in a boxing ring.  tongue

Dec 26 12 11:45 am Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

Svend wrote:

I don't play hockey.

Then what's with the hockey helmet...?

Dec 26 12 12:29 pm Link

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Svend

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Windsor, Colorado, US

DivaEroticus wrote:

Then what's with the hockey helmet...?

Stop looking at my junk!

Dec 26 12 12:57 pm Link

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BeatnikDiva

Posts: 14859

Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

Svend wrote:

Stop looking at my junk!

Well, if your...hockey stick...weren't so small, I wouldn't NEED to look for the helmet!

Dec 26 12 01:00 pm Link

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Svend

Posts: 25143

Windsor, Colorado, US

DivaEroticus wrote:

Well, if your...hockey stick...weren't so small, I wouldn't NEED to look for the helmet!

It's THIN mad

Dec 26 12 03:49 pm Link