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Emily Hayworth
Posts: 839
Banning, California, US


A while ago I saw a thread about bartering, and a lot of people posted that they do it/would be open to the idea of it.  I'm wondering though -- does anyone have any success stories?  If you barter (specifically through the network of people you meet on MM), how many deals a year do you make?

I added that I was willing to barter into my profile (and originally had a long list of things I was willing to barter for) but I took down the list when I thought it made my profile look cluttered.  I haven't really gotten any bites though -- maybe one or two, and not for anything I actually wanted.
Dec 26 12 06:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Schlake
Posts: 1,262
Socorro, New Mexico, US


I'd barter with you if we were close.  I shoot for fun though, and I think paying for things makes them dirty.  Bartering, however, seems more wholesome, and acceptable in my mind, even if I'm just buying the girl things instead of paying her directly.

I've bartered for lots of things.  Many girls will take pictures for food, though, and most of the rest for no reason at all.
Dec 26 12 06:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SensualThemes
Posts: 3,018
Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US


I like barter.  It's all about the value...what you're offering vs the value (financial or otherwise) you're offering
Dec 26 12 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marc Damon
Posts: 5,154
Biloxi, Mississippi, US


TF is a form of barter. smile
Dec 26 12 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KA Style
Posts: 1,549
Syracuse, New York, US


I barter.

I actually bartered labor for flooring install in my studio. I did some family portraits. Bartering is great as long as its equal value to both parties.
Dec 27 12 05:51 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Alabaster Crowley
Posts: 1,770
Tucson, Arizona, US


Schlake wrote:
I think paying for things makes them dirty.

lolwat

Dec 27 12 08:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 19,970
Salem, Oregon, US


i hosted a traveling model and her boyfriend in exchange for a shoot.

on zivity models post their amazon wishlists and guys buy them stuff.

i had one model say "i'll work for a pair of shoes" well some ladies shoes cost more than it would cost to hire the model!
Dec 27 12 09:36 am  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Vincent Wolff
Posts: 2,818
Chicago, Illinois, US


I might barter for some models
Dec 27 12 09:38 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Farenell Photography
Posts: 16,574
Albany, New York, US


Emily Hayworth wrote:
A while ago I saw a thread about bartering, and a lot of people posted that they do it/would be open to the idea of it.  I'm wondering though -- does anyone have any success stories?  If you barter (specifically through the network of people you meet on MM), how many deals a year do you make?

I'm one of those people who is open to bartering. It usually happens when I'm either traveling or someone wants me to come to them.

I've gotten everything from gas money to a night on a person's couch to a bottle of rum (or wine) to film to a scrumpicious home-cooked meal. & that's just off-the-top of my head.

Dec 27 12 09:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lars R Peterson
Posts: 1,015
Seattle, Washington, US


I have had the opportunity to shoot with models that usually only take 'paid' assignments, through bartering. Sometimes having a spare room for a place to stay while they are traveling through town... I have provided technical computer repairs in exchange for shoot time... Sometimes an up-and-coming designer will need shots of their product, give it to me, I give it to the model who poses in it, and everybody wins!! smile

Also, sometimes models will leave something behind at a shoot... and I usually will give a grace period for them to come and reclaim what they lost. But, sometimes I never see them again, and I still have the shoes, or scarf, or earrings, etc... and those items will go into the 'barter' pile. You like it, you pose in it, you keep it.

I like the barter system.
Dec 27 12 09:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Knowles
Posts: 3,518
Ferndale, California, US


I've been trying to reduce the amount of clothing I have stored at the studio, so I've been bartering for corsets and other clothing.

Outside of MM I've bartered for other things such as drywall work, and roofing.

My favorite barter was discounting a web site for an acrobatic ride in a P-51 Mustang.
Dec 27 12 10:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looknsee Photography
Posts: 18,874
Portland, Oregon, US


I don't seek barter arrangements out, but sometimes they just happened.

A few months ago, a "damsel in distress" llama dropped me a line:  her lodging plans fell through
Dec 27 12 11:57 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Cwen
Posts: 1,678
Los Angeles, California, US


twoharts wrote:
i had one model say "i'll work for a pair of shoes" well some ladies shoes cost more than it would cost to hire the model!

I bartered for a pair of shoes I was too guilty to buy for myself.

Dec 27 12 02:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 3,867
New York, New York, US


I've bartered for wardrobe pieces for future use,alcohol and frequent flier miles. It never hurts to offer other options in the process of shoot negotiation.

I've also bartered with photographers with discontinued film stocks and other related goodies.

The thread is still going, and is now stickied at the top of the forum...specifically so folks don't have to clutter their main profiles with lists smile

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=844281
Dec 27 12 02:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,135
Olivet, Michigan, US


Emily Hayworth wrote:
A while ago I saw a thread about bartering, and a lot of people posted that they do it/would be open to the idea of it.  I'm wondering though -- does anyone have any success stories?  If you barter (specifically through the network of people you meet on MM), how many deals a year do you make?

I added that I was willing to barter into my profile (and originally had a long list of things I was willing to barter for) but I took down the list when I thought it made my profile look cluttered.  I haven't really gotten any bites though -- maybe one or two, and not for anything I actually wanted.

I frequently provide lodging as part of a model's compensation, and I'm certainly open to models giving me non cash compensation as part of my compensation for a shoot.

Dec 27 12 03:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 11,711
Tampa, Florida, US


I think the barter system, in and outside of the model/photographer relationship, is fantastic.

One of the first commercial clients I had was, and still is, AAA Travel. Part of the compensation has been paid to me in the form of travel, cruise, airline, etc.

I know I worked for that by providing my services but there is something wonderful about feeling like you have a product or service "given" to you. Especially when it's something you wouldn't likely buy for yourself.
Dec 27 12 03:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Erik Ballew
Posts: 405
Westminster, Colorado, US


I'd love to Barter, but I don't think I have anything anybody would want.
Dec 27 12 03:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JDF Photography
Posts: 1,733
Marengo, Ohio, US


Willing to barter here. Have for a while.
Dec 29 12 08:10 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Laura UnBound
Posts: 24,699
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


You said it yourself. Sure people do it, it's just a matter of finding someone offering something you actually want, and that thing being on par with what you have to offer in return


Pictures, cash...those are the easiest things to barter in modelling. Clothing/makeup/equipment trade/studio time , hosting also.


If you're looking for violin lessons though...good luck finding a qualified violinist/photographer who's local to you and willing to do that trade off.

Most times it's easier to just get paid and then go acquire the thing you want yourself
Dec 29 12 01:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Emily Hayworth
Posts: 839
Banning, California, US


Laura UnBound wrote:
Most times it's easier to just get paid and then go acquire the thing you want yourself

This is what I'm discovering.  I'm kind of surprised that more people don't even ask though, since it seems like if I had something I couldn't really use/want, I would rather get rid of that item than pay somebody in cash.

Jan 05 13 03:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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