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What Fun Productions
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Phoenix, Arizona, US


"The Journal News of suburban Westchester, New York caused outrage by publishing an interactive map showing the names and addresses of New York's legal firearm owners.

In response, a blogger decided to create a map showing the names and addresses of employees of the newspaper.

http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/ … ighborhood

The blog, "Talk of the Sound," a New Rochelle, New York-centric website, decided that turnabout was fair play by posting its headlined, "Map: Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?." The map replicates the gun owners map published by the Journal News, replacing gun owners with newspaper employees.

There was one reason and one reason only for the newspaper to publish the names and addresses of New York's gun owners: intimidation. The paper meant to scare these law abiding citizens. It was nothing but a bullying tactic.

Worse, by taking this action, the Journal News intended to put New York's law abiding firearm owners on the same level as the murderer at Sandy Hook Elementary."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism … -Employees

Here's another blog with info about the newspaper employees::
http://christopherfountain.wordpress.co … rnal-news/

Opinion: Turnabout is fair play. Now all those legal gun owners know the names and addresses of the newspaper employees.

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 27 12 04:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,655
Hayward, California, US


I don't think it's funny in either case. 

The news paper should get mollywhopped in court and the blog should ... well, they probably don't have any money, so...
Dec 27 12 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:
"The Journal News of suburban Westchester, New York caused outrage by publishing an interactive map showing the names and addresses of New York's legal firearm owners.

In response, a blogger decided to create a map showing the names and addresses of employees of the newspaper.

http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/ … ighborhood

The blog, "Talk of the Sound," a New Rochelle, New York-centric website, decided that turnabout was fair play by posting its headlined, "Map: Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?." The map replicates the gun owners map published by the Journal News, replacing gun owners with newspaper employees.

There was one reason and one reason only for the newspaper to publish the names and addresses of New York's gun owners: intimidation. The paper meant to scare these law abiding citizens. It was nothing but a bullying tactic.

Worse, by taking this action, the Journal News intended to put New York's law abiding firearm owners on the same level as the murderer at Sandy Hook Elementary."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism … -Employees

Here's another blog with info about the newspaper employees::
http://christopherfountain.wordpress.co … rnal-news/

Opinion: Turnabout is fair play. Now all those legal gun owners know the names and addresses of the newspaper employees.

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So in other words you have no problem with your own information being posted online...  yikes

Dec 27 12 05:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,330
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Art of CIP wrote:
So in other words you have no problem with your own information being posted online...  yikes

The newspaper had no problem posting the names and addresses of legal gun owners.

They shouldn't have a problem with others revealing their names, right?

Dec 27 12 05:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

The newspaper had no problem posting the names and addresses of legal gun owners.

They shouldn't have a problem with others revealing their names, right?

You just posted the name, address, and a plethora of personal information about a parent, her family, her friends, and her coworkers here...  So you shouldn't have a problem with others doing the same to you right?

Tooo Funnnyy!!!

Dec 27 12 05:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,330
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Art of CIP wrote:

You just posted the name, address, and a plethora of personal information about a parent, her family, her friends, and her coworkers here...  So you shouldn't have a problem with others doing the same to you right?

Tooo Funnnyy!!!

Well, my family is full of attorneys.. so I guess I have some recourse.

But I remind you, this thread is not about me.

Dec 27 12 05:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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SensualThemes
Posts: 3,024
Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US


As my anti gun nut sister said, it's public information.  Of course, posting HER public info online wasn't as acceptable...for instance, publishing the names of her 'married' gay friends who worked for conservative employers or in oppressive communities.


It's fine when it serves your gials Iguess...but in typical "liberal, tolerant, open" fashion, not if it doesn't
Dec 27 12 05:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

Well, my family is full of attorneys.. so I guess I have some recourse.

But I remind you, this thread is not about me.

You cannot start a thread, insert your opinion, and then say it is not about you.  Of course it is about you.  And your opinions on the matter will be discussed here as well. 
Now, the wording of your post that you think is funny is actually quite predatory.

From the blog that What Fun Feels is fair and funny wrote:
Miss X’s married name is X. She lives in X and here is her Facebook page complete with pictures of her and her kids. Hello Sanctimony.

*Names and locations have been committed...

Apparently your opinion is that it is just fine for people to post public info online and also bring pictures of their children as well... Apparently you approve of this...  Afterall, these are your own words:

What Fun wrote:
Opinion: Turnabout is fair play. Now all those legal gun owners know the names and addresses of the newspaper employees.

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dec 27 12 05:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
Posts: 18,615
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Art of CIP wrote:
You cannot start a thread, insert your opinion, and then say it is not about you.  Of course it is about you.  And your opinions on the matter will be discussed here as well.

With this kind of logic...anyone who starts a thread- it's about them- riiiiight.

Like I said- SB: endless entertainment.

OP:  I saw the article on Yahoo first a few days ago.  Neither of these actions are right...but the ones who own guns...the criminals know where not to go so easily.

Dec 27 12 06:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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sublime LightWorks
Posts: 6,019
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Art of CIP wrote:
You cannot start a thread, insert your opinion, and then say it is not about you.  Of course it is about you.  And your opinions on the matter will be discussed here as well. 
Now, the wording of your post that you think is funny is actually quite predatory.

Saving this so I can ask each and every time you start a thread what it has to personally do with and is about you.

Dec 27 12 06:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


sublime LightWorks wrote:

Saving this so I can ask each and every time you start a thread what it has to personally do with and is about you.

Ummm...  You already do that and always have...
lol

Dec 27 12 06:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 5,965
Santa Monica, California, US


Art of CIP wrote:

Ummm...  You already do that and always have...
lol

AoC,

Have you been to Intelius.com?
if not, take a few and go, pt yr name in and see what you get.

I did this with a Japanese class mate, her jaw dropped.
She was in a 'pre web' mindset.

Dec 27 12 06:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 5,965
Santa Monica, California, US


j3_photo wrote:

With this kind of logic...anyone who starts a thread- it's about them- riiiiight.

Like I said- SB: endless entertainment.

OP:  I saw the article on Yahoo first a few days ago.  Neither of these actions are right...but the ones who own guns...the criminals know where not to go so easily.

I dont know how easy / hard it is to get a list of convicted felons, they have yet
to publish that.

The writers home, phone # etc are now online, but 'advertised' more.

Dec 27 12 06:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 5,965
Santa Monica, California, US


Damon Banner wrote:
I don't think it's funny in either case. 

The news paper should get mollywhopped in court and the blog should ... well, they probably don't have any money, so...

Why? is it private info? stolen?

Dec 27 12 06:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


SAND DIAL wrote:
AoC,

Have you been to Intelius.com?
if not, take a few and go, pt yr name in and see what you get.

I did this with a Japanese class mate, her jaw dropped.
She was in a 'pre web' mindset.

There are soooo many other resources that are much more accurate than intelius...  That is rookie level stuff.

Dec 27 12 06:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,330
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Art of CIP wrote:
Apparently your opinion is that it is just fine for people to post public info online and also bring pictures of their children as well... Apparently you approve of this...  Afterall, these are your own words:

Give it a rest CIP...

Here are some more sources to the story in the OP:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/2 … _ref=media

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/27/bl … -database/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ds-newsxml

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/12/ … 356626181/

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics … ted/60356/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/20 … sonal-data

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/b … html?hp=r3

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 … r-map.html

Dec 27 12 06:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andialu
Posts: 13,062
San Pedro, California, US


Damon Banner wrote:
I don't think it's funny in either case. 

The news paper should get mollywhopped in court and the blog should ... well, they probably don't have any money, so...

I agree. The newspaper publishing their information is bullshit.

Dec 27 12 06:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 5,965
Santa Monica, California, US


Art of CIP wrote:

There are soooo many other resources that are much more accurate than intelius...  That is rookie level stuff.

Thanks!
such as? cost?

Dec 27 12 06:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


I'd just like to take a moment and point out the hypocrisy of this thread...

From the thread "Enough is Enough"

What Fun Productions wrote:
Roseanne Barr Joins Twitter Vigilante Crew

The comedian Roseanne Barr last night tweeted the home address of George Zimmerman’s parents to her 110,000-plus Twitter followers, only to delete the posting after “not fully understanding that it was private not public.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ … ets-893416

What a mess.

It seems that we are getting mixed messages about putting people's personal information online...  In this thread the OP praises bloggers for putting someone's personal information along with their children's, families', and friends' - yet the OP is very sympathetic to family of George Zimmerman in what appeared to be a similar situation at the time...

Dec 27 12 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,330
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Art of CIP wrote:
I'd just like to take a moment and point out the hypocrisy of this thread...

From the thread "Enough is Enough"

It seems that we are getting mixed messages about putting people's personal information online...  In this thread the OP praises bloggers for putting someone's personal information along with their children's, families', and friends' - yet the OP is very sympathetic to family of George Zimmerman in what appeared to be a similar situation at the time...

It was NOT my OP... And did you see my comment?

"What a mess."

Please CIP, give it a rest.

This is a national news story.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?threa … st17861987

Dec 27 12 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
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Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

It was NOT my OP... And did you see my comment?

"What a mess."

Please CIP, give it a rest.

This is a national news story.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?threa … st17861987

Never said it was your op...   Did I say it was your OP? Please do point out where I said it was your OP...  Do it right now - I'd love to see it...

Dec 27 12 06:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,330
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Art of CIP wrote:
Never said it was your op...   Did I say it was your OP? Please do point out where I said it was your OP...  Do it right now - I'd love to see it...

Please give it a rest and quit threadjacking.

Thanks!

Dec 27 12 06:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

Please give it a rest and quit threadjacking.

This is not a threadjack - this bringing into question the validity of your OP here.  And based on your own words and your history here in Soapbox - your OP is highly suspect.

Dec 27 12 06:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
Posts: 19,330
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Art of CIP wrote:

This is not a threadjack - this bringing into question the validity of your OP here.  And based on your own words and your history here in Soapbox - your OP is highly suspect.

BS and you know it.

Please stop.

Dec 27 12 06:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

BS and you know it.

Please stop.

Would it make you feel better if I did not discuss the OP you presented or your opinion?

Dec 27 12 06:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,655
Hayward, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:
Well, my family is full of attorneys.. so I guess I have some recourse.

But I remind you, this thread is not about me.

This thread is about you, you thought it was funny.

It takes time for attorneys to do their work.  During that time, all your stuff is publicly available. 

Seems you don't really think it would be funny if that happened to you.

Dec 27 12 06:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


Damon Banner wrote:

This thread is about you, you thought it was funny.

It takes time for attorneys to do their work.  During that time, all your stuff is publicly available. 

Seems you don't really think it would be funny if that happened to you.

Also from the "Enough is Enough" thread:

 

T wrote:
I'll take a twitter vigilante over Killerboy Zimmerman any day.
What Fun Productions wrote:
Even if they found Zimmerman's parents killed?

There we have it - in What Fun Production's own words.

Dec 27 12 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
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Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Damon Banner wrote:
This thread is about you, you thought it was funny.

It takes time for attorneys to do their work.  During that time, all your stuff is publicly available. 

Seems you don't really think it would be funny if that happened to you.

Please show us how this thread is about the OP.  The logic you and CIP have I would LOVE to see explained.

Dec 27 12 06:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,655
Hayward, California, US


SAND DIAL wrote:

Why? is it private info? stolen?

I'm curious how you never understand anything. 

Let me ask you, will you post your real name, phone number and address in this thread?  I mean, you seem to be trying to justify what happened in the OP's article.  You seem to think it's okay.  So post your information here for us.   Mount up.

Dec 27 12 06:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
Posts: 18,615
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Damon Banner wrote:

I'm curious how you never understand anything. 

Let me ask you, will you post your real name, phone number and address in this thread?  I mean, you seem to be trying to justify what happened in the OP's article.  You seem to think it's okay.  So post your information here for us.   Mount up.

PUBLIC information...BIG difference (not that it's right to do what either side did).

Dec 27 12 07:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,655
Hayward, California, US


j3_photo wrote:
Please show us how this thread is about the OP

Feel free to direct your attention to the first post where the OP thought it was funny and indicated what happened is "fair."

But since you also seem to think it's okay, please post your personal information in this thread.  Man up!

Dec 27 12 07:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 83,655
Hayward, California, US


j3_photo wrote:
PUBLIC information...BIG difference (not that it's right to do what either side did).

Your address and name is public.  Post it up.  Go.

Though I'm glad to see you admit it isn't as funny as the OP thinks it is.

Dec 27 12 07:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
Posts: 18,615
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Damon Banner wrote:
Feel free to direct your attention to the first post where the OP thought it was funny and indicated what happened is "fair."

But since you also seem to think it's okay, please post your personal information in this thread.  Man up!

PLease feel free to show us how this thread is about the OP.  STOP deflecting.  We're waiting on an explanation.

Also PERSONAL info is NOT PUBLIC.

Holy fuck I don't miss the usual BS Soapbox (shitbox) is.

Clueless as all hell.

Dec 27 12 07:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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j3_photo
Posts: 18,615
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Damon Banner wrote:

Your address and name is public.  Post it up.  Go.

Though I'm glad to see you admit it isn't as funny as the OP thinks it is.

Is it?   Is yours?  Go ahead- POST it.

Dec 27 12 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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What Fun Productions
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Phoenix, Arizona, US


Dec 27 12 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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Art of CIP
Posts: 21,234
Long Beach, California, US


What Fun Productions wrote:

It's a national news story that I happen to think is hilarious.

I don't think that newspaper will do that again...

Of course, two wrongs don't make a right... but come on...

I know you think it's hilarious...

Dec 27 12 07:11 pm  Link  Quote 
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 5,965
Santa Monica, California, US


Damon Banner wrote:

I'm curious how you never understand anything. 

Let me ask you, will you post your real name, phone number and address in this thread?  I mean, you seem to be trying to justify what happened in the OP's article.  You seem to think it's okay.  So post your information here for us.   Mount up.

OK, I wont ask you questions, at least for awhile.

I was doing a websearch, one gets that info via 'freedom of info' request or act.

Dec 27 12 07:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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SAND DIAL
Posts: 5,965
Santa Monica, California, US


j3_photo wrote:

Is it?   Is yours?  Go ahead- POST it.

His website was less than revealing.

Dec 27 12 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Michael Bots
Posts: 4,104
Kingston, Ontario, Canada


More than criminals know where to go.

One of the problems with the gun permit info being public is that some of those people are in hiding with court protection orders in hand,  psycho stalker former partners and have the weapon with a real need for personal protection.


Nothing quite like the joy of being in hiding from your ex and an irresponsible paper publishes your address.
Dec 28 12 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Chicchowmein
Posts: 13,501
Palm Beach, Florida, US


Damon Banner wrote:

This thread is about you, you thought it was funny.

It takes time for attorneys to do their work.  During that time, all your stuff is publicly available. 

Seems you don't really think it would be funny if that happened to you.

Especially when it is the same person who told someone in a thread to PM them for my personal information.

Hypocrites. Soapbox is full of em.

Dec 28 12 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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